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Off of the showroom, what brand 2011- 250/ 450 bike would be the most competitive? Excluding free bikes, contingency. If the rider had to pay for everything and needed the most competitive and reliable bike! The bikes are really good and maybe one type of bike is better for sx than mx? I ll go with the rmz 250/450 or the crf s . What is the oldest bike you fans or media has seen trying to make the show/qualified? Was'nt Champion riding a 09 kxf 250f? Thanks
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Ozzy133 1/21/2011 11:24pm
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2011 Honda CRF250R, doesn't need much to go racing.
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Honda 450 by Merge Racing! Proven Factory beating machine!

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Based on the Chads predicament I would choose a Honda 450 for the short wheelbase
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R-acer 1/22/2011 4:34am
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Kawasaki... both the KX250F and the KX450F. But the 2011 KX250F is really an amazing, fun, snappy bike.
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R-acer 1/22/2011 4:38am
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motokiwi wrote:
Based on the Chads predicament I would choose a Honda 450 for the short wheelbase
Chad has said every bike he was on was the absolute best... first Yamaha was the best, then Suzuki was the best, then the Suspention on the Kawasaki was the best....now honda is the best.
IMO he looked the best on Suzuki, and the worst on his new Honda.
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newmann 1/22/2011 5:38am
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The CRF450 is the lightest of the pig...uh, I mean big bikes. To me that seems to be a pretty important starting point. Add a set of offset triple clamps to your liking, lighter pipe, ignition, ti springs front and rear, suspension work, big front rotor and proper gearing and go racing.
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motogrady 1/22/2011 5:52am
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motokiwi wrote:
Based on the Chads predicament I would choose a Honda 450 for the short wheelbase
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Chad has said every bike he was on was the absolute best... first Yamaha was the best, then Suzuki was the best, then the Suspention on...
Chad has said every bike he was on was the absolute best... first Yamaha was the best, then Suzuki was the best, then the Suspention on the Kawasaki was the best....now honda is the best.
IMO he looked the best on Suzuki, and the worst on his new Honda.


Whatever payroll they're on is always the best, money rules their mouth.

He's footing the bill on this trip, he had his pick, I'd say the Honda.

2 top 5's out of a pickup, on a "off the dealer floor with a a bunch of aftermarket parts bike",........................I love it.
queen of spodes 1/22/2011 5:54am
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Ozzy133 wrote:
2011 Honda CRF250R, doesn't need much to go racing.
Didn't MXA say the '11 CRF250 was the worst 250 of this year?
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Ozzy133 wrote:
2011 Honda CRF250R, doesn't need much to go racing.
queen of spodes wrote:
Didn't MXA say the '11 CRF250 was the worst 250 of this year?
We tried the CRF250.... felt slow. didnt have much low end. Not saying it's a bad bike...but it needs work.
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CRFracer117 1/22/2011 6:15am
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I think any 250F off the show room would be a bad decision, if you were footing the bill. I know I have read on here a million times about guys getting like over a billion hours out of the 250F's, I would love to see this million dollar marvel. Like I have always heard if you want to race you have to start with a million and end with half.
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Towelie 1/22/2011 6:21am
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I really dont think you can go wrong with any of the bikes these days. I do wish however, that I could ride them all to really find the one that fits me best.
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CamP 1/22/2011 7:15am
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The 2008 CRF450 is still the best 450 on the track.
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Why a KTM 350 of course...just check the rest of the forum. Wink
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Everyone is gonna have there own opinion. Like R-acer who is biased towards Kawasaki's since he owns them. I'am a Yamaha guy but I would have to say off the best Showroom bike would have to be both the 250 and 450 Zooks. If you have money to spend you can make them ALL GOOD.
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lumpy790 1/22/2011 1:00pm
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A lot of our sponsored Pro riders are jumping ship to Honda CRF250's this year.



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mxb2 1/22/2011 1:05pm
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Nice bike lumpy ! Don t you own a so called pig ? LOL!
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mxr102 wrote:
Everyone is gonna have there own opinion. Like R-acer who is biased towards Kawasaki's since he owns them. I'am a Yamaha guy but I would have...
Everyone is gonna have there own opinion. Like R-acer who is biased towards Kawasaki's since he owns them. I'am a Yamaha guy but I would have to say off the best Showroom bike would have to be both the 250 and 450 Zooks. If you have money to spend you can make them ALL GOOD.
I am not biased towards Kawasaki because I own them..... I bought them because IMO I found them to be the best. If I had wanted something else, I would have just bought it. They are all the same price anyways....it's just preference.
But saying that I am defending them because I own them is wrong.

BTW, I also have a RMZ250, and it's also a nice bike, but the build quality is not even close to the Kawi.

I would own any of the 4 Jap brands no problem.
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mxb2 1/22/2011 1:07pm
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What year RMZ did you have?, R-acer, has anyone qualified on a 08 bike this year?
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R-acer 1/22/2011 1:11pm
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mxb2 wrote:
What year RMZ did you have?, R-acer, has anyone qualified on a 08 bike this year?
brand new. what about 08?
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Brand new rmz(what year) I have an 09 rmz 450, good bike, hoping to upgrade in march to an 11! About the 08 i know its a great bike but has anyone qualified on a 08 crf 450, or they don t use them because of EFI or contingencies? Do you like the kawy better than the zook?
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Chase26 1/22/2011 1:35pm
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the 2011 ktm 250sx hands down!
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mxb2 1/22/2011 1:37pm
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Did ktm have a problem with the new excel wheels? recall ?, heard they had some problems, that might have been early production , any info on that?
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Faceaz 1/22/2011 2:53pm
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Think I would go the RMZ. The fit / feel of it makes me feel the most confident of all the bikes out there. I really like the turning & suspension. IMO they go the cheap route with bars, sprocket, chain, etc. but that's all stuff you replace anyway. 2nd I would probably go with the KTM's , IMO great power / durability & high end components right off the floor.
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lumpy790 1/24/2011 7:17pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Nice bike lumpy ! Don t you own a so called pig ? LOL!
That is Les Smiths HOT CRF....... Pig? No but I know one......ouch!
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mxb2 1/25/2011 12:02pm
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mxb2 wrote:
Nice bike lumpy ! Don t you own a so called pig ? LOL!
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That is Les Smiths HOT CRF....... Pig? No but I know one......ouch!
Guess you sold the 4 stroke project bike you bought LOL, sounds like you need a shampoo made of wood! LOL.
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newmann wrote:
The CRF450 is the lightest of the pig...uh, I mean big bikes. To me that seems to be a pretty important starting point. Add a set...
The CRF450 is the lightest of the pig...uh, I mean big bikes. To me that seems to be a pretty important starting point. Add a set of offset triple clamps to your liking, lighter pipe, ignition, ti springs front and rear, suspension work, big front rotor and proper gearing and go racing.
Not to quibble, but by the time you buy a new CRF450 and put all that stuff on it, you could have bought a YZ250, sent the engine to Pro Circuit and had it way tricked out, filled 'er up with C110 and killed everyone on the track.

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