Best privateer bike ever built?

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What is arguably the most competitive and best privateer bike ever? True privateer. No satellite team with access to factory parts.
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If i could think of one, it would probably be a KTM with a tom zont engine and finely tuned a-kit suspension.
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08 CRF450. The entire track was full of those things.
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Bill Nilsson's 1957 AJS special. He built it himself and won the first 500cc World Motocross Championship.

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Davi Millsaps RMZ was on its way to winning a championship.......
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Mic drop!
This thing beat other manufacturers factory bikes.
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ARay’s 2020 MX season Kawasaki.
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Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450?

Bike only had:

Stock engine
KYB production all-air fork
High compression piston
Hinson clutch basket
FMF exhaust
Clamps
Linkage
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downard254 wrote:
Mic drop! [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/09/07/448240/s1200_6275CD26_A23C_418C_9D8D_0505B2B4D75A.jpg[/img] This thing beat other manufacturers factory bikes.
Mic drop!
This thing beat other manufacturers factory bikes.
That 87 CR125R rocked...
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H4L wrote:
Rick Ryan's 87 CR250r.. It was basically stock. He won the Daytona race in 87.. Bad AZZ ! https://racerxonline.com/2010/10/01/where-are-they-now-rick-ryan [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/09/07/448239/s1200_Rick_Ryan_CR250_Daytona.jpg[/img] Owned & raced an 87, those...
Rick Ryan's 87 CR250r.. It was basically stock.

He won the Daytona race in 87.. Bad AZZ !

https://racerxonline.com/2010/10/01/where-are-they-now-rick-ryan




Owned & raced an 87, those 86 & 87 CR250's were ahead of their time..
Mitch Payton did the cylinder and head on that bike.... Arnold Plant built the motor and all Ryan's and Matson's motors that year. He jetted it and matched the cases plus did some work on the crank and the bottom end....

That exact 250 was purchased after the season by a friends dad. It was a very smooth motor that ran very clean....
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450? Bike only had: Stock engine KYB production all-air...
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450?

Bike only had:

Stock engine
KYB production all-air fork
High compression piston
Hinson clutch basket
FMF exhaust
Clamps
Linkage
Pssst...

That bike had some factory goodies on the inside...
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Guy Coopers bike that landed him a factory ride? He rode the wheels off that bike
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Hands down to the 1981Maico 490 sold to hundreds of privateers campaigning from Maine to California and the Importer in RSA and Rhodesia sold hundreds with Super results.
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450? Bike only had: Stock engine KYB production all-air...
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450?

Bike only had:

Stock engine
KYB production all-air fork
High compression piston
Hinson clutch basket
FMF exhaust
Clamps
Linkage
TeamGreen wrote:
Pssst...

That bike had some factory goodies on the inside...
Go on...
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motokiwi 9/7/2020 4:52pm
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I bet those MDK crf450s had some money spent on them. Same with the H&H Suzukis - or were they factory bikes?
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kiwifan 9/7/2020 5:15pm
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It doesnt matter if they were stock or not....

That CRF450 of Chads back in 2011 was pure privateer and was beating a lot of factory machines
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450? Bike only had: Stock engine KYB production all-air...
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450?

Bike only had:

Stock engine
KYB production all-air fork
High compression piston
Hinson clutch basket
FMF exhaust
Clamps
Linkage
I think you're talking about his 2013 bike ? I was at the Oakland SX race that yr. & remember him doing an interview. He said the bike was basically a production bike with some add-ons. He got a couple of top 5-6 finishes that year going off memory.

https://racerxonline.com/2013/01/28/long-story-short

You could see that Short struggled a bit out there with a Honda CRF450 that had new suspension components (the KYB production all-air fork as opposed to a Showa works fork). Otherwise, the bike had a high compression piston, a clutch basket, an FMF exhaust, some clamps, a linkage and that's about it. It was a huge change, and Short, who has been referred to as nearly OCD by many, change doesn’t always go over well. He qualified only twentieth fastest—a strange sight indeed. The odds were against the #29 to do much of anything with not much time on a strange bike on a new team.

"It’s a stock motor with a Hinson clutch basket in it. There’s not much too it".
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Reese95w wrote:
Bill Nilsson's 1957 AJS special. He built it himself and won the first 500cc World Motocross Championship. [img]https://alchetron.com/cdn/bill-nilsson-852272ca-4cae-4ea3-8b30-30e344a7f87-resize-750.jpeg[/img]
Bill Nilsson's 1957 AJS special. He built it himself and won the first 500cc World Motocross Championship.

Winner -- he built it himself -- and won.

He built it himself.

And won,
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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450? Bike only had: Stock engine KYB production all-air...
Andrew Short got his only career 450 SX win (Seattle 2012) on a stock CRF. So, CRF 450?

Bike only had:

Stock engine
KYB production all-air fork
High compression piston
Hinson clutch basket
FMF exhaust
Clamps
Linkage
You mean. Full works showa forks/with hrc clamps, and hrc wheels lol.
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So hard to define privateer. Is Bullfrog Spas Motoconcepts privateer? They kill it. Other than that seemed like 22s Kawi was one of the best I've ever seen. And I'm really not a fan of his but he just seemed to go wherever he wanted to. Not sure how much factory help he had and I'm sure pro Circuitwas helping. Other than 11/10 mods bikes with Durham on it did amazing things.

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