Baggett Methodology

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7/26/2014 2:31pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2014 6:48am
baggett is such a methodical rider that it may be an indicator for his 450 success. jeff ward was like this -- doesn't come unglued, hunts his prey with a slow heart beat, seizes the moment, and speeds away. unique type of animal in this sport, and a dangerous competitor who can easily be underestimated.
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7/26/2014 2:33pm
completely agree. and some of his line choices are genius.
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7/26/2014 11:20pm
he seems to ride in the meat of the powerband whixh is a great technique for the 450 ill be stoked when he moves up
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7/27/2014 3:12am
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but to have even a hope at beating Dungey, Roczen, Tomac, Canard and maybe even RV, he is going to have to pull consistent top-10 starts after he moves up.
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7/27/2014 3:43am
mark_swart wrote:
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that...
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but to have even a hope at beating Dungey, Roczen, Tomac, Canard and maybe even RV, he is going to have to pull consistent top-10 starts after he moves up.
Wishful thinking

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7/27/2014 5:27am
mark_swart wrote:
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that...
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but to have even a hope at beating Dungey, Roczen, Tomac, Canard and maybe even RV, he is going to have to pull consistent top-10 starts after he moves up.
Wishful thinking
I'm with ya. For some reason I don't see BB as a strong rider for the power of a 450 to muscle and throw it around. Also I don't ever recall Jeff Ward as having a serious ongoing injury like BB, let's face it BB has not been the same since his title year. Will methodology work in SX ?
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7/27/2014 12:07pm Edited Date/Time 7/27/2014 12:08pm
mark_swart wrote:
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that...
If he doesn't figure out his starts on the 450 he will go down in history as more of a Larocco than a Ward. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but to have even a hope at beating Dungey, Roczen, Tomac, Canard and maybe even RV, he is going to have to pull consistent top-10 starts after he moves up.
The Mike Larocco who had multiple titles and race wins in both SX and MX over a lengthy career? Please explain how that is somehow less than what Ward was?
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7/27/2014 12:14pm
BB4 hasn't been all that good with starts in his 250 career......but neither did Eli. And Eli seems to get better starts more often on the 450. yesterday he didn't......but when you ride like the way Eli does......any where inside the top 20 will get you on the box!

At the top of the uphill yesterday , after the drop off , I counted Eli in 18th place. I could not believe how fast he was blowing by guys.
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Shawn142 wrote:
The Mike Larocco who had multiple titles and race wins in both SX and MX over a lengthy career? Please explain how that is somehow less...
The Mike Larocco who had multiple titles and race wins in both SX and MX over a lengthy career? Please explain how that is somehow less than what Ward was?
I'm not ragging on Larocco, I'm just saying he was known as a bad starter and in the end I'm pretty sure Wardy ended up with more wins and titles?
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you'll notice blake got a good start 2nd moto yesterday....and he went backwards initially. I think this is because he is finding lines the whole first 2-3 laps. Those lines pay dividends in the remaining part of the race. Go re-watch the 1st couple laps from yesterdays 2nd moto and tell me i'm wrong. You could see him exploring lines that weren't the best choices initially.

I don't know if he consciously does this but i think the side affect is some amazing line choices that cut massive time later in the race.
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7/27/2014 8:15pm
baggett is such a methodical rider that it may be an indicator for his 450 success. jeff ward was like this -- doesn't come unglued, hunts...
baggett is such a methodical rider that it may be an indicator for his 450 success. jeff ward was like this -- doesn't come unglued, hunts his prey with a slow heart beat, seizes the moment, and speeds away. unique type of animal in this sport, and a dangerous competitor who can easily be underestimated.
um, have to disagree...he is ferocious on a lites bike but he will have to take holeshot lessons from 800 before he even cracks a top 5 in MX...5, 94, 3, 41, and 2 (and maybe 7) will be long gone by the time 15 min into the moto comes around and he starts clicking...have you seen how fast those guy disappear...45 seconds over 5th/6th place by halfway...unreal

i doubt he ever leaves the lites class honestly...he is peaking now...

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7/27/2014 9:45pm
Baggett won't be putting in those charges in the 450 class. With all due respect to Martin and Webb, they're still improving and have a lot to learn. Right now, Baggett isn't even beating them consistently. He's been in the class for awhile now and in my opinion should be forced up next season.
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7/27/2014 9:54pm
I think Baggett still has some problems with his eye injury and that may be some of the reason for his inconsistency right now. I would think Washougal would be a tough track to ride with an ongoing vision problem.
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7/27/2014 10:01pm
This is one of those threads that will be cool to read through again in about 5 to 7 years down the road.Wink
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7/27/2014 10:53pm
What I don't get is how he doesn't get starts.

What does he weigh? It'd only be Bell that is lighter surely?!!?
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7/28/2014 5:32am
dboivin wrote:
you'll notice blake got a good start 2nd moto yesterday....and he went backwards initially. I think this is because he is finding lines the whole first...
you'll notice blake got a good start 2nd moto yesterday....and he went backwards initially. I think this is because he is finding lines the whole first 2-3 laps. Those lines pay dividends in the remaining part of the race. Go re-watch the 1st couple laps from yesterdays 2nd moto and tell me i'm wrong. You could see him exploring lines that weren't the best choices initially.

I don't know if he consciously does this but i think the side affect is some amazing line choices that cut massive time later in the race.
I agree.
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7/28/2014 6:36am
I'm anxoius to see if he can relate his style in mx to a 450 soon. He's great at outdoors.
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7/28/2014 6:48am
i don't think he'll transfer to 450 very well...and i'm a huge BB fan. guess we'll find out soon enough.

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