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This last July at Cahuilla I over shot the big step-up they had in the back. The suspension bottomed out and it jarred my back so bad I didn't end up riding the rest of the day. I took the entire summer off, in hope it would get better and decided to try it out Glen Helen a few weeks ago. Back pain instantly came back after the first moto. It gets so bad I can barely pull myself up if laying flat on my back. I went to the chiropractor, they took x-rays and stated I have between Phase 2-3 disc degeneration at age 26. I've ridden my entire life and never had any issues until now. I was hoping someone has had a similar experience and could hopefully point me in the right direction to get help. I can't fathom the thought of giving up riding but that seems to be the only logical thing to do at this point.
Thanks!
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While I don’t know what your issues are, don’t rely on a chiropractor to give you medical advice. Go see a specialist and figure out a plan for rehab !
You’ll be fine, no need to panic
Physical therapy, injections before any operation.
You will need a CT scan, MRI and x rays for a specialist to make a determination.
Degeneration leads to numbness in buttox to left leg all the way to toes (sciatic nerve)
Or neck to middle finger.
Ive had 2 lumber and one cervical operation.
Dont wait if you have above said pain dont waste time with a chiro either
Good luck
Step 2: Don't take medical advice from people on Vital. Seat bouncing advice, proper sprocket bolt torque, or the number of jumps in a triple? Yeah, this is the place. Medical advice? See a doctor.
Good luck, though. Back pain sucks. I hope you can get it all healed up.
Dont sweat that and especially info from a chiro, they are not spine experts.
Nerve pain and numbness is serious though.
The Shop
Personally, I would avoid surgery unless everything else fails and you are incapacitated. Even then, don’t get surgery without the consensus of at least two reputable surgeons. At your age, time and conservative care will usually lead to some improvement.
Thanks for the positive input so far, you guys are rad!
Go see an actual physician spine specialist (either neurosurgery or ortho spine) and get a proper evaluation and you likely will need an MRI to fully assess what's going on. Dont fuck around with your back.
I still go to a chiro every now and then, last weekend I over jumped a new 100ft table top and tweaked my lower back. Got put back into place and a few days later the muscles have settled and I'm good to go
Paw Paw
Me. First look up dr Stuart mcgills big 3. The most respected man when it comes to back pain. Do his exercises 3 times per day. Also focus on your hip hinge, and every day to day movements that you don’t think of. Just imagine your herniated or damaged disc to be a scab, you can rest loads, do no exercises but bend down the wrong way and ride your db without good posture and a strong core and you have picked that scab. Now it’s bleeding and it will never heal if you keep repeating this. Also focus on working on your core strength, kettle bell swings, light deadlifts, single leg deadlifts. You need a strong posterior chain, then make sure your back is strong too. You’ll feel so much better too. Don’t go running, if you want to do cardio, cycle or go on the rower. It’s difficult, and your back will probably never be the same. If you need inspiration read Stuart McGill and Brian carolls book about his sever back injuries and how he comes back to compete at world level thanks to McGill. Good luck!
It for 10 mins 3 times per day.
I took it upon myself to start going to the gym regularly for an entire season and had no idea what would happen in the spring when I got back on the bike. Luckily for me this helped me enjoy riding my bike and day to day life again. I got caught in a rut of not going to the gym for a few weeks and instantly noticed how tight my back would get.
I owe so much credit to this video here. Especially the stretch at 5:20. I do this usually twice a day.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0xxBys41Lt4
Pit Row
Check these guys out on their website or Instagram. They have helped a lot of people fix their shit.
https://moveu.com/
2. Strengthen your core
3. Ride with kidney belt.
First of all, ignore 90% of what you find in researching this problem. The vast majority of this field is for fat people and old people whose discs have been ground down over many years. This is NOT what you have and the recommendations for that problem will not help you. You had a specific point in time in which it burst, it didn't degenerate over a long period.
The first time it happened to me, I just let it heal on it's own. But, like you described, it would be fine as long as I didn't do anything, then every now and then I would get active and BOOM, I could barely move.
The second time, I decided to do something about it and I found out about this minimally invasive procedure called Microdiscectomy
https://www.spine-health.com/video/microdiscectomy-surgery-video-a-spin…
I had this procedure done at Methodist Hospital in Houston, TX (one of the top in the US) by Dr. Blackburn who performs this exact procedure on NASA astronauts. They pop their discs when they reenter the atmosphere and gravity compresses their spine.
Bro, I had the surgery in the morning and I walked out of the hospital that night. I have been fine for the last 7 years. I ride every weekend, I can lift weights again. I'm fine.
You will find that there are 2 general directions people go - Orthopedic surgeons or Neurosurgeons. Obviously, I went with neurosurgeon and that is what I recommend.
1) Do Ab Ripper X every day. Find it on Youtube. Get your core into SUPER shape and it will solve a lot of your problems. This is a never ending thing for the rest of your life.
2) Inversion table.
3) Don't go jogging anymore. Don't lift heavy things. Don't just bend over to pick up things.
4) DO stand up a LOT more when you ride. Try not to sit much.
5) Ride with one or even two kidney belts that you pull very tight. Never ride without one.
6) Do hip flexor exercises daily...for the rest of your life.
Many times MRI's show issues that are not really the root cause of your problems. I have ridden for 40 years with back issues. No surgery so you can do it. Just takes some work. Ask yourself how badly you want to stay riding?
Yes, these are great to do also...
https://youtu.be/2_e4I-brfqs
I agree with trying to do core training but when you cannot put on your own sox and need help getting up exercise is impossible until the main cause is repaired.
Glad you could get an MRI but a CT scan should have also been ordered.
Let us know the results.
I had fusion surgery in Sept. I had no choice. I fell off a water tank and landed on my right leg. The result was a fractured spine causing my L-5 to lean up against the main nerve cord
I had pain in both legs but what was weird I had zero back pain. When I woke up from surgery all the pain in my legs was gone and still so today.
I plan on going back to racing next summer. I ride in the 60-70 yr old vet classes.
Herniation was hitting the sciatica and putting pain to my toes, but luckily no numbness or a dropped foot. Made it worse by cranking on it with a foam roller, and finally ponied up for a nice inversion table and PT until MRI results came back. Neurosurgeon was shocked at how well I self recovered, and I even declined the spinal shot. Inversion table has worked wonders, and even doing simple things like loading the dishwasher I take my time and bend way down with my knees instead of bending my back. As soon as pain starts to hit, I will drop to the ground and do a modified pushup pushing my pelvis into the ground for relief and to push it back in.
I have issues from time to time, and the doc still want to do a microdiscetomy, but I am holding off until things get worse. I have rode a few practice days and not only held my own, but didnt feel like a cripple afterwards. I am not a newbie to surgeries, but I am new to getting back work done, and frankly it scares me...
Deadlifts, plank, Good mornings, back extensions + stomach exercise. If I had to pick one, deadlifts it is.
Anything that is moving your back up and down is ok, side to side like stretching by moving with your hands above the head and also moving body from left to right will kill your back or give you a crossover.
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