BB4...about Tomac takeout

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny. Kenny passed him and disappeared. It seems Kenny was a...

To add balance, at the first triple crown, first race, Eli started in front of Kenny.
Kenny passed him and disappeared.

It seems Kenny was a little stronger early season & Eli is a little stronger now.

These head games might swing the balance back in Kenny’s favour. We’ll see.

NateDawg wrote:

Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also...

Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also got lucky with several red flags ruining Tomac's only good starts of the night.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact. FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year. FACT- Ken has caught, passed...

Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact.
FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year.
FACT- Ken has caught, passed and left Eli at some point this year.

It’s not up for argument- it happened.

Now when it comes to luck- yes Ken got lucky with the red flag at Glendale.
Eli got lucky twice this year with riders falling on the last lap or second to last lap.
St. Louis? Anderson & Osborn?
Last week?

davistld01 wrote:

After previous comments were made here or on another thread about how unhinged Baggett is when he's involved in an on-track altercation...he seems pretty calm, cool...

After previous comments were made here or on another thread about how unhinged Baggett is when he's involved in an on-track altercation...he seems pretty calm, cool, collected, and mature here.

VRR7 wrote:

This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In...

This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In fact all other riders railed the berm but BB did an almost square pivot and ET and BB racing lines came together. Unfortunate for both and appears non intentional by either rider.

BamBam - Took ET high on a corner and made the pass by making contact then got the same handed back the next corner - BamBam went insane - He clearly wanted to T bone Tomac in the sand but he was too slow. ET had to get away from that action and unfortunately that ended in a coming together with BB.

If ET truly wanted to park BB he would have ... taken him high .. which never happened the incident happened when BB was going extra square in the corner and while going low ! If BB railed the berm like the other 3 riders before him ( JA did cut lower as well trying to overtake) then ET and BB would never have made contact. So who you going to blame ET or BB ? IMO unfortunate racing indecent for both neither indented a parking ticket. BamBam he was so trying to park ET that was plain to see.

bvm111 wrote:

Are we still talking about this?

VRR7 wrote:

This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In...

This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In fact all other riders railed the berm but BB did an almost square pivot and ET and BB racing lines came together. Unfortunate for both and appears non intentional by either rider.

BamBam - Took ET high on a corner and made the pass by making contact then got the same handed back the next corner - BamBam went insane - He clearly wanted to T bone Tomac in the sand but he was too slow. ET had to get away from that action and unfortunately that ended in a coming together with BB.

If ET truly wanted to park BB he would have ... taken him high .. which never happened the incident happened when BB was going extra square in the corner and while going low ! If BB railed the berm like the other 3 riders before him ( JA did cut lower as well trying to overtake) then ET and BB would never have made contact. So who you going to blame ET or BB ? IMO unfortunate racing indecent for both neither indented a parking ticket. BamBam he was so trying to park ET that was plain to see.

Momus wrote:

Exactly how I saw it. A racing incident with #4 with Marcia going mental in mad persuit because he cannot handle that Tomac is a much...

Exactly how I saw it.
A racing incident with #4 with Marcia going mental in mad persuit because he cannot handle that Tomac is a much faster rider.

When l first saw the footage l was prepared to think that Marcia in his insane rage may have booted or pegged Eli as he was down

MOTO1313 wrote:

This entire scenario that left BB4 on the ground was the fault of that friggin goon rider #51. If Barcia hadn't been trying to take out...

This entire scenario that left BB4 on the ground was the fault of that friggin goon rider #51. If Barcia hadn't been trying to take out Tomac, which is EXACTLY what he tried to do when they both went into that right hand bowl turn (Barcia behind Tomac) and Barcia bolted across the inside trying to nail Tomac. This is what made (or set up) Tomac wanting to get far, far away from Barcia and force the error where Tomac took out BB4. Barcia is a fucing menace.

VRR7 wrote:

This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In...

This post made me look at this again. IMO - ET did not attempt to T bone or hit BB in anyway like Moosecan did. In fact all other riders railed the berm but BB did an almost square pivot and ET and BB racing lines came together. Unfortunate for both and appears non intentional by either rider.

BamBam - Took ET high on a corner and made the pass by making contact then got the same handed back the next corner - BamBam went insane - He clearly wanted to T bone Tomac in the sand but he was too slow. ET had to get away from that action and unfortunately that ended in a coming together with BB.

If ET truly wanted to park BB he would have ... taken him high .. which never happened the incident happened when BB was going extra square in the corner and while going low ! If BB railed the berm like the other 3 riders before him ( JA did cut lower as well trying to overtake) then ET and BB would never have made contact. So who you going to blame ET or BB ? IMO unfortunate racing indecent for both neither indented a parking ticket. BamBam he was so trying to park ET that was plain to see.

NateDawg wrote:

Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also...

Well Tomac stomped Roczen at Anaheim 2 and Oakland, so I don't know if that logic holds up. Roczen was better at Glendale but he also got lucky with several red flags ruining Tomac's only good starts of the night.

Thisusernameisavailable wrote:

Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact. FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year. FACT- Ken has caught, passed...

Logic doesn’t come in to it- it’s fact.
FACT- Eli has caught, passed and left Ken at some point this year.
FACT- Ken has caught, passed and left Eli at some point this year.

It’s not up for argument- it happened.

Now when it comes to luck- yes Ken got lucky with the red flag at Glendale.
Eli got lucky twice this year with riders falling on the last lap or second to last lap.
St. Louis? Anderson & Osborn?
Last week?

NateDawg wrote:

I was referring to your claim that Roczen was stronger early in the season... Eli was clearly the fastest early in the season too so your...

I was referring to your claim that Roczen was stronger early in the season... Eli was clearly the fastest early in the season too so your logic doesn't hold up. And when has Roczen really run Eli down??

Btw, Anderson finished ahead of Tomac in St. Louis. For someone who's committed to "facts" you seem to get a lot of them wrong.