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1/23/2018 5:43am
1/23/2018 5:43am
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1/24/2018 5:18pm
So Weigant was on the Pulp show last night and estimated that with the triple crown format, there was 16 minutes LESS racing. I haven't done the math myself, but I'll take his word for it...
Give the next 20 guys outside the ones who qualified for the triple crown a B-main. One B-main for the 250s between the 1st and 2nd main events and one for the 450s between the 2nd and 3rd main events. Make them 7 minutes for 250s and 9 minutes for 450s. There's your 16 minutes of racing back and they're short enough to still do track maintenance if needed. Do it Feld.
Give the next 20 guys outside the ones who qualified for the triple crown a B-main. One B-main for the 250s between the 1st and 2nd main events and one for the 450s between the 2nd and 3rd main events. Make them 7 minutes for 250s and 9 minutes for 450s. There's your 16 minutes of racing back and they're short enough to still do track maintenance if needed. Do it Feld.
Interesting, Kenny said it wasn't a good schedule for the riders. There has to be some middle ground for the riders and for the fans...
The Shop
Regular Night
250 heat 1 - 6 minutes +1 lap
250 heat 2 - 6 minutes +1 lap
450 heat 1 - 6 minutes +1 lap
450 heat 2 - 6 minutes +1 lap
250 LCQ - 5 minutes +1 lap
450 LCQ - 5 minutes +1 lap
250 main - 15 minutes +1 lap
450 main - 20 minutes +1 lap
69 Total minutes of racing +8 laps
Triple Crown
250 main 1 - 6 minutes +1 lap
450 main 1 - 8 minutes +1 lap
250 main 2 - 10 minutes +1 lap
450 main 2 - 12 minutes +1 lap
250 main 3 - 12 minutes +1 lap
450 main 3 - 15 minutes +1 lap
63 Total minutes of racing +6 laps
So there is indeed 6 minutes less racing and 2 less laps (take that how you want), not 16 minutes, with the triple crown. Just so we all are on the same page.
Everyone keeps complaining that there was less racing. But there were more races that actually mattered. 6 of them.
I cannot believe so many ppl care about fucking semis & lcq’s and johnny privateer.
The other has 60+ minutes of racing that matters (all 6 mains).
This shouldnt even be debated on which is more bang for our buck.
A fucking “B” main. One more race that doesnt mean shit to the championship.
Participant ribbons, too?
Pit Row
Maybe they didn't want to copy the "summer-series"!
Get rid of the 50cc kids and bring in Superminis.
The rest is when the other class is racing.
The mechanics got plenty of time to “change parts”. It’s not like they’re actual tuners.
Track prep is the only thing that cannot be substituted. And while that is going on, you cant add a B main, a C main, a Jesse only main, or a KTM 50cc race. It’s concession stand time.
If I was producing the event, I’d run 3 motos (250-450-250), then have a 15min “halftime” for track prep and commentary/pit interviews/etc. Then the final 3 (450-250-450). All live. Minimal downtime. A 2 hour live broadcast is what Americans have the attention span for. And it’s good production value anyways.
And is it really fair to the parts changer? Clutches and wheels, plus anything potentially bent like bars and subframes. That would suck if a guy couldn’t make it back for something simple or routine.
Most of the field doesn’t.
More mistakes/injuries isn’t a good thing. The tracks need to get easier anyways. But in my ideal scenario there wouldnt be privateers either. Teams would demand revenue sharing and/or increased media coverage. Which would result in better pay / incentive for the “weaker” riders to train for 3 fifteen minute motos. As someone who has seen how professionals train in a variety of sports, those in the MX/SX field outside the top 3 are pretty embarrassing. They mostly live off of talent and the fact that the sport has such a small talent pool to pull from.
As for the parts changer, it’s plenty fair. 15 minutes is a lifetime for those guys to get work done.
If ya want the sport to have more money, you gotta improve the product. Most mechanics in the sport are grossly underpaid/exploited. That’s why there is so much turnover by even some of the elite teams. I think the parts changers should welcome anything that would allow them to make more money. Even if that means they have to actually work.
I also disagree that the tracks should be easier. I don't want a choo choo train of a race every weekend with 15 guys within the same second.
I agree that mechanics are underpaid but your comments don't make sense. Are they underpaid or are they not doing work? I also haven't seen the turnover that you are referring too. These guys work longs hours for years on end with very few opportunities to get promoted.
Participant ribbons are for pre k soccer teams and that’s about as far as that should go.
It's obvious a lot of you have never been on the other end of the stick trying to make a living in the sport. If you shit on the little guy long enough, participation rates will drop (and they already have drastically at the local levels), and soon the sport will fade away. Why? Because nobody is going to say "I think i'm going to go drop thousands of dollars into my kid in hopes they make it big in this sport." Nobody is going to risk their mortgage, personal business, and everything they've worked for to have a small chance at a career. It's gotten to the point already where the risk isn't worth the chance of reward. It's amazing that just as TV ratings are starting to go up for our sport, you guys want to kill it off.
All you guys want to sound like hard asses, but the reality is you just don't get it.
IMO, this year is just the trial run to see how it does. I could easily see this becoming the regular format.
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