Arlington track map

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2/13/2019 4:41am Edited Date/Time 2/15/2019 6:09am
Guaranteed one line again this weekend imo.

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I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for some longer rhythm lanes in the football stadiums.

I think this layout might have made for some different racing, with longer rhythm sections. I'm not sure why thy wanted to run tracks that are pretty similar 2 weeks in a row.

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After thinking about it a little I kind of like the turn section at the far left. But why not make it more interesting? Put a whoop section, a small rhythm section, split section, sand section or some form of 2 of those on the track.





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mx 219 wrote:
I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for...
I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for some longer rhythm lanes in the football stadiums.

I think this layout might have made for some different racing, with longer rhythm sections. I'm not sure why thy wanted to run tracks that are pretty similar 2 weeks in a row.

All the tracks are starting to look exactly the same

The future SX champion will be one of the best starters, that's sad. Probably Ken or Coop.

I miss this kind of track.

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2/13/2019 6:29am
I never get tired of watching that!
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2/13/2019 6:36am
At 1.55sec it's just crazy, You can't see that on tight and technical tracks...Whistling
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2/13/2019 6:45am
One line track should bid well for Cooper, considering he's been getting starts this year.
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2/13/2019 6:46am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2019 6:47am
Man, I've watched that race many times from the official broadcast shots, but I don't recall every seeing the GoPro footage. Unbelievable. The rhythm lane at 1:50 is nuts, especially fist full of throttle in the middle to clear the quad. Also, not exactly new, but that Barcia rides a wide bike.

And to hell with the Arlington track, we haven't had a good James thread in a while. lol
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mx 219 wrote:
I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for...
I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for some longer rhythm lanes in the football stadiums.

I think this layout might have made for some different racing, with longer rhythm sections. I'm not sure why thy wanted to run tracks that are pretty similar 2 weeks in a row.

Looking like we will have 46-48 sec laptimes for the fast guys again.....
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2/13/2019 7:12am
Teej317 wrote:
One line track should bid well for Cooper, considering he's been getting starts this year.
It's a good thing for Ken, Coop and Marv and it's a bad thing for Tomac.
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2/13/2019 7:44am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2019 7:44am
Why don't they use over/under sections any more in sx? I always liked those.
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2/13/2019 7:46am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2019 7:47am
WCRider wrote:
All the tracks are starting to look exactly the same The future SX champion will be one of the best starters, that's sad. Probably Ken or...
All the tracks are starting to look exactly the same

The future SX champion will be one of the best starters, that's sad. Probably Ken or Coop.

I miss this kind of track.

40 second lap times, not only are the tracks more of the same, but getting closer to Arenacross every single year. Feld needs to step up and truck more dirt in, then build some real tracks, instead of going the opposite direction.
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2/13/2019 9:49am
Show me a SX track built in the last 5 years that isn’t 1 lined. It’s the new nature of indoor racing. Riders are wired to and train to use the best line around any track. WTF?
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2/13/2019 9:54am
Name another Motorsport that isn’t one lined

All I can think of is drag racing and nascar..
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2/13/2019 10:00am
I don't think it had as much to do with it being one lined as just the way the dirt formed up made it super hard to pass. There were deep ruts on the insides, outsides and everything in between. It made it impossible for the riders to do any sort of block passing that they needed to be doing. The faster guys are usually able to make things happen whether its one lined or not.
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2/13/2019 10:27am
One of my favorite races of all time. The things he was doing were unreal.
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mx 219 wrote:
After thinking about it a little I kind of like the turn section at the far left. But why not make it more interesting? Put a...
After thinking about it a little I kind of like the turn section at the far left. But why not make it more interesting? Put a whoop section, a small rhythm section, split section, sand section or some form of 2 of those on the track.





I agree. I hope that turn becomes sand or moguls or something. Hardly ever see passes if it's just flat
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2/13/2019 11:50am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2019 11:52am
2019 Glendale vs 2019 Arlington [img]https://i.gyazo.com/c41fdf23866eaa7c16241b98c00cf7b7.png[/img]
2019 Glendale vs 2019 Arlington
Half of Minneapolis was pretty similar too. Check out Nashville.

Check out Detroit and Indy. Houston is sort of similar to them as well.

https://www.supercrosslive.com/track-maps
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2/13/2019 11:59am Edited Date/Time 2/13/2019 12:02pm
Here is an edit I did to the layout of Nashville. The layout now is pretty similar to Glendale, but with a few clicks we have a totally different track.

Don't get me wrong, they could do a million things with the tracks, but this was a very quick fix just changing a few turns and the direction of the track. Obviously obstacles would need to change to reflect the layout changes.

Note: where are the over-unders as noted previously? Over-unders?? (there are a few), why no split sections?


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2/13/2019 12:30pm
so you guys would rather have 1 guy be 15 seconds ahead of the rest of the field versus what we had at Minneapolis, 5 guys all together that could all win it. Better competitive, more exciting racing to watch for the viewers, which is what keeps the sport going.

Also, that last track suggestion you guys would complain about it too, because all you did was remove one straight line and add another...
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Picture 1: Atlanta 2014 Picture 2: East rutherford 2019


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2/13/2019 4:02pm
The flat corners in Arlington this weekend are honestly pretty good spots for passing, making up and losing time. Two flat lefts, definitely passable areas.
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2/13/2019 5:16pm
mx 219 wrote:
I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for...
I agree, starts out similar to last week. I believe are making shorter straights to try to slow the racers down, but would be nice for some longer rhythm lanes in the football stadiums.

I think this layout might have made for some different racing, with longer rhythm sections. I'm not sure why thy wanted to run tracks that are pretty similar 2 weeks in a row.

WCRider wrote:
All the tracks are starting to look exactly the same The future SX champion will be one of the best starters, that's sad. Probably Ken or...
All the tracks are starting to look exactly the same

The future SX champion will be one of the best starters, that's sad. Probably Ken or Coop.

I miss this kind of track.

tracks with options like that are awesome because they give top guys the opportunity to make up time and make passes if they get a bad start like js7 showed us here
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2/14/2019 10:31pm
We haven’t really seen any big quads of anything that only a few riders can do this year..
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2/15/2019 4:37am
One of my favorite memories from when I started watching SX in the early 90's was when they raced at LA coliseum I believe it was, and the track went up into the stands, around/through the pillars at the top, and back down, sometimes with a big down hill jump. watching those guys essentially flat track around the turn at the top flying by the pillars was amazing as a kid.
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2/15/2019 5:34am Edited Date/Time 2/15/2019 5:36am
I liked that about the pontiac silverdome too. Today they only make big sweeper turns go in the stands. What I miss about pontiac and would like to see again is a step up into the stands, turn, then huge step down triple out of the corner and back onto flat ground. It was so badass and adds a whole new dimension to the race.

A big sweeper turn in the stands doesnt really add that much to the race, but a big step up/step down, with a sweeper between is something that you cant see on any flat track surface and makes for a badass section of the track.
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vdrsnk04 wrote:
so you guys would rather have 1 guy be 15 seconds ahead of the rest of the field versus what we had at Minneapolis, 5 guys...
so you guys would rather have 1 guy be 15 seconds ahead of the rest of the field versus what we had at Minneapolis, 5 guys all together that could all win it. Better competitive, more exciting racing to watch for the viewers, which is what keeps the sport going.

Also, that last track suggestion you guys would complain about it too, because all you did was remove one straight line and add another...
If they are capable of being ahead by 15 seconds, then yeah. They should be able to have a track to race and show that ability off. It's even more impressive and exciting when that rider gets a bad start and makes passes like nothing compared to the riders struggling to pass.

Minneapolis wasn't exciting IMO in the sense I didn't feel like they were grouped because of skill levels being equal. Instead the track equalized it closer than it really was.
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