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Titan1.
2/2/2021 9:23pm
2/2/2021 9:23pm
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2/8/2021 5:42pm
Or are they just junk fees?
Meaning, does the manufacturer really charge the dealer a set fee for every bike they get in the dealer...or is that just another fee (like a document prep fee) that dealers charge, because they can?
Meaning, does the manufacturer really charge the dealer a set fee for every bike they get in the dealer...or is that just another fee (like a document prep fee) that dealers charge, because they can?
This year i call around to find new Ktm 350sxf and not one dealer is under 11,200 otd
So instead i went to ATV’s and MOR and bought a 2021 KTM250SX for 8k otd, they waived prep fee!
Just doc fee! $220.00
Im cool with paying that this time around cause i know dealers that are selling 2020 left over 250sx bikes for 8699.00
Since thats the case that means i can pay 8200 for my 2021 and next year sell it for the same amount if not $200.00 and it only will cost me $200.00-$400.00 to own the bike and ride it for a whole year!
So, to recapp, find a dealer you are capable to work with and get in good with salesman and let them let you know when the rebates come alive and TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.
Remember sometimes the doc fee could be their commission so dont bitch about paying it, if your returning to that dealer in future.
Seems like the dealer fees are just junk fees...but I don’t know that for sure.
Common is also a prep fee, that’s the cost to take bike out of crate, build it and throw away the crate material. Takes an hour to three depending on the bike. But there is a real cost to this, usually just labor and the cost to dispose of the crate.
Doc fees are pure profit to the dealer, but usually the hardest to waive. There is a cost to having the girls in the back office handle that stuff, but again, it’s mostly just hourly wages or salary.
Regardless, you should support your local dealer. It is a really challenging business, margins are thin and customers can be hard as heck. Find someone that treats you well and return the favor to them.
The Shop
There is usually a difference between MSRP and dealer invoice for the machine, but I’m pretty sure that the freight is still a ‘pass through’ cost without dealer margins or discount.
As well if you check any window sticker on any new car, destination fee is always built in to the msrp.
Please support your local bike shop and don’t nickel and dime them over every fee. We’re not slick back used car salesman trying to get one over on you. We’re enthusiasts of the sport and sincerely want to offer the best value and experience for our customers.
Also “set up” fees - yes. Bikes arrive in a wooden box or metal crate. Sounds simple but still a task and does cost the dealership x to orchestrate and complete.
Just goto the dealer buy the bike and pay em an extra thousand for selling it to you! And quit bitching about 250.00 fee ontop of a immature purchase you just attempted to spend 8thousand dollars on.!!!
Been there and done it! Multiple times.
So I’m not going to pay more than I have to, just because dealers have low margins (and they might) and are good guys (and they probably are)...if you all want to pay extra to the dealer for those reasons, go for it...but I shop around, find the dealer willing to sell me a bike for the lowest OTD price and that is where I buy the bike from.
Second thought, None of the MX bikes are made in America. It aint free to put them on a boat and ship them across the pond..
Third and Final, This is something that is clearly posted on all oems sites now for all units because people constantly think its the dealerships sticking them with "Fees".
#kooks
Pit Row
I manage an HVAC supply store.
Then I paid $350 to ship it and $40 to insure it (Shipping Insurance). I have no F'n idea what "fees" are in the price I paid & I really don't care. But, I do know this...
That dealer is AMAZING. They help me with special parts orders, technical questions (like parts interchangeability between R/RX and X/L) and they're just nice people. Period.
I hope any and all of you have a dealer that's this awesome to help you out, too.
Add it to the MSRP, every dealer advertises MSRP anyway...so the playing field is still level. Then put in fine print (or bold print) below the msrp: "destination charge included in msrp".
They sell far more utv’s and rzrs and offroad redneck go karts every year than they do dirtbikes ill gaurentee you that, and those dudes dont bitch at all they sre just happy to get there get in there 4wd go kart and lose 10k on the unit as soon as they roll it onto their gooseneck!
Thats no shit, every dealer ive ever dealt with i always ask what their besg selling units are and its either utvs or boat related or jet skis.
Yes freight is charged uphill, both ways
I get you guys want the best deals on your bikes but why we have a thread every other week on "BS dealer fees" is beyond me. Expect to pay a thousand over sticker. Think about where you shop, who you're giving your money too. Is it a dealer that supports your local tracks and race series. This is an ecosystem, without dealers most of these tracks wouldn't have sponsorship money. Trust me they can not surive off tack fees alone... Without dealers you can't buy bikes. The cost of OEM licensing is worth more than the building and it's entire staff.
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