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I have Scotts, but got xtrig triple clamps. They are not compatible for submount, but GPR is.
My Scotts has free play till about half way to the stoppers....works great. I felt a GPR on a bike the other day, it was the opposite. Tension at first, then free play. Scotts works great for moto and desert. Not sure about the GPR for moto..... Thanks
My Scotts has free play till about half way to the stoppers....works great. I felt a GPR on a bike the other day, it was the opposite. Tension at first, then free play. Scotts works great for moto and desert. Not sure about the GPR for moto..... Thanks
If I am willing to part with the money I will get another. I would prefer to buy the Honda Style Steering Stabilizer, but you have to spend for the Triple Clamps as well.
The Shop
i race a lot of the big 6 stuff as well as race at LACR and GH
Overall I’ll give GPR the nod for the lesser transmission of steering input to the chassis.
I really liked their Pro Mount setup until recently, purchased 3 of their Pro Mounts before. .
The Pro Mount is an upper clamp that is machined for their low profile stabilizer, very slick, and very expensive.
That said, I’m out ever doing business with GPR again.
in 2017 I bought a new XCF 350 and had the dealer add a few parts before delivery.
One being a GPR Pro Mount.
About 5 hours in and wondering why the front end felt strange, I took it all apart to check.
Right away I saw the GPR upper clamp was wonky.
It was 2 degrees off the stock angle and stock lower clamp.
Called GPR, they had the dealer purchase record and compared to the part number I had in hand.
Guy on the phone stated the part I had wasn’t even close to what should have been sent.
I asked and he confirmed, they sometimes make mistakes with packaging.
No worries.
As they asked, I sent the part back and waited for a proper replacement
What I got was a phone call saying this should never have been put on the bike and since it had been installed and now had wear, they would only offer to sell me a proper part AT FULL PRICE.
Guy on the phone agreed that they should help out with a little discount, but was told nope, boss said no discount.
We can’t resell it, full price.
I pointed out and they have in their records I had purchased 2 or 3 stabilizers directly from them.
Only choice I was given was to pay full price for a clamp to use the stabilizer and post I already had.
I decided to suck it up and buy what I needed and move on.
However, when I’ve seen the opportunity to share the poor treatment that GPR has toward their customers, I will speak up and say, CAVEAT EMPTOR.
Steve Sewell
Cypress, Texas
Look it up GPR, I’m in your records...
I imagine if you purchase right from GPR that is something they can do for you.
I am running a Racetech gold valve with a custom re-valve from my suspension dude.
https://www.racetech.com/page/id/147
Then I bought a 17 KX450 (and 19 KX450) and IMHO neither of those bikes benefit from the GPR for moto (when the suspension is set up well).
Nothing too crazy and not like changing 1 to 9 on a Scott’s or GPR
Yes, all the others really helped in fast rough sections (like GH) but I was really surprised that my '17 KXF really didn't give me any trouble. I was planning to buy the mount to move the GPR from my '13 to the '17 bike, but never found I needed to. I did have some initial trouble with the '19 KX and bought the mount for it but took it off at the track after two motos. Ultimately was just my suspension setup. After I dialed that in it's as stable as the '17 (or more). Mainly the forks were too stiff (long story; but just removing 20cc of fork oil and some compression tweaks took care of it).
But with that said, if you have the cash or don't want to spend a lot of time tweaking suspension settings, the GPR works well and there is really no downside once you get used to the "slow steering" during tight turns. And like the others, I always ran mine on the "1-2" settings for moto and even had GPR use lighter oil when returned for service.
Anyone have a layman explanation of the physics on this type of system? I recall the Honda version was offset / not centered so the arm was extended/retracted with a set level of resistance. Maybe I am being dumb? (likely)
Pit Row
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/First-Look-HPSD-Honda-Progressive-Stee…
Do not buy a GPR. You will constantly be trying to rebuild them, replacing the proprietary O ring that doesn't last long. But try to go on to the GPR website and buy any parts. No, you can't. Maybe they will schedule a call for you to talk to them and maybe they will actually be on the call. You will have problems with the stablizer and even more problems when you need parts and support.
i have this mount for my scotts stabilizer with xtrig 2018crf450 frame
https://shopbrp.com/dirt-bike-parts-shop/dirt-bike-performance-parts/ho…
That was not my experience.
I started running the Precision Racing stabilizer set up with X-trig clamps a couple years ago. I really like how it mounts low and doesn't require different mounts.
For off-road it's amazing, just as good as any Scots or GPR set up without having the damper sitting up high. On the moto track, I find I really like it on rough tracks like Glen Helen. I notice it most when entering rough corners at speed, helps smooth out the arc of my corner and loosen my grip a bit. On tighter tracks I don't really notice it. I usually run it on setting 3/10 for moto and 5 or 6/10 for off-road.
You can still move the bars quickly to scrub/whip, I don't really notice it negatively on the track.
Hey, that looks cool. Especially that you can run it with xtrig and doesn't raise your bars at all (I ended up always buying the lowest rise bars I could find). I would also have liked to have run the GPR with xtrig clamps but couldn't.
That Precision one does look super burly compared to the GPR rig though. Not sure how I feel about that for moto :-).
EDIT: I see on their website the unit only weighs a pound. If I ever get back on a bike, I'll look at getting one of these. Def worth a try!
I’ve got a GPR on an older KTM 450xc and a Scott’s on my 2018 KTM 450/500. Really like them both, Scott’s is a bit lighter feeling but either one is a good thing. Low settings so they don’t get the “can’t turn” feeling, they still take care of the sudden jolts that cause problems. As an old guy who hates working out, I don’t like riding without one.
I fitted a CRF item to my RMZ450, I like it.
I use the Precision on my personal bike. Great damper: lightweight, compact, and doesn't alter bar position. It's what we recommend to everyone who asks.
I really wish they made a mounting bracket for the 02-07 cr. I’m considering a stabilizer for off-road but I haven’t seen any options that don’t raise the bars
If I was buying a stabilizer today, that’s what I’d buy. Cleanest most versatile mounting of all. But for me, all the stabilizers work great, I’m just not that sensitive to the differences between the different types, as long as I have one.
It’s a bummer to hear GPR has problems with service these days, they used to have awesome customer service. Free rebuilds at the races for racers was the unspoken standard. They upgraded mine to new units twice for about 40% of the price of the new unit, that kept me on the latest and greatest GPR for 10 years.
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