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From Cox:
And finally, it was brought to my attention this week that the AMA rule for Lites eligibility changed this year for supercross, and it’s insane because they didn’t inform anyone of this change. What happened is, instead of the old rule that said a rider had to score 100 points in three consecutive years before getting bumped, it has been changed for 2009 so that any rider who scores a TOTAL of 225 points over three years is bumped up (page 24 of the rulebook).
Now, think about that. That’s 24 races, if the rider is healthy and races all of them. So, if he raced all of them, he would only need to average a finish of 11th place and he would be permanently bounced from the Lites class. Or, check this out, if a rider averages seventh or better, he’ll be bounced after just two years. For example, Blake Wharton, at his current pace, would be bumped to 450s in 2011. That just seems ridiculous to me. It seems to me that three is the magic number – Ryan Villopoto raced Lites for three years, as did Stewart, and even Ricky Carmichael said he wished he would have. This is going to take all of the decent talent out of the Lites class in no time, which will make Lites championships worth nothing.
And even better, this rule is retroactive to the beginning of 2008. So, any rider (are you listening, Austin Stroupe, Wil Hahn and Nico Izzi?) who accumulates 225 points between 2008 and 2009 will be forced to be on a 450 in 2010 or not race at all.
How about them apples?
A very fast revolving door and makings of very short careers
Enjoy
Fight amongst yourselves
And finally, it was brought to my attention this week that the AMA rule for Lites eligibility changed this year for supercross, and it’s insane because they didn’t inform anyone of this change. What happened is, instead of the old rule that said a rider had to score 100 points in three consecutive years before getting bumped, it has been changed for 2009 so that any rider who scores a TOTAL of 225 points over three years is bumped up (page 24 of the rulebook).
Now, think about that. That’s 24 races, if the rider is healthy and races all of them. So, if he raced all of them, he would only need to average a finish of 11th place and he would be permanently bounced from the Lites class. Or, check this out, if a rider averages seventh or better, he’ll be bounced after just two years. For example, Blake Wharton, at his current pace, would be bumped to 450s in 2011. That just seems ridiculous to me. It seems to me that three is the magic number – Ryan Villopoto raced Lites for three years, as did Stewart, and even Ricky Carmichael said he wished he would have. This is going to take all of the decent talent out of the Lites class in no time, which will make Lites championships worth nothing.
And even better, this rule is retroactive to the beginning of 2008. So, any rider (are you listening, Austin Stroupe, Wil Hahn and Nico Izzi?) who accumulates 225 points between 2008 and 2009 will be forced to be on a 450 in 2010 or not race at all.
How about them apples?
A very fast revolving door and makings of very short careers
Enjoy
Fight amongst yourselves
Gma B
The Shop
You get 3 YEARS in the Lites class, and if you were decently successful, you get bumped. If they can't enjoy a long career in the 450 class after 3 years in the 250f class then let em join the real world.
Made me laugh & sick at the same time!
I actually wrote a whole post about it, but I
"deleated it"! Way to harsh! Instead I borrowed this
from another post of mine elsewhere.........:
The problem with the AMA has always been the AMA.
Are they always so bad?
Many times rule wise, etc., they are.
Many good people, very bad rules & rulings, etc.........?
They're dated, cheap, out-a-touch, with what's what &
many times needed. They've been so full of themselves for
so so long, the jokes are on them & that's how 1 gets thru it all.
Even now, their new "top secret Lites/250F" class eligibility
rules are completely insane. INSANE!
I predict in time as "MX Sports" did, SX will drop them too.
Dave O.
"a sanctioning body is a terrible thing to waste".......
"creditability is a terrible thing to waste "......................
And yes that means guys on 450's should be able to drop down if they can find a better rider.
It's the pro's folks. 17 rounds of east....no developmental regiona series.
Pit Row
Afuggenmazing ©
There aren't enough good 450 rides out there to support forced migration to the class of guys who haven't even contended for a championship yet in Lites. Under that rule, guys who aren't the fastest in the Lites but who are consistent are going to be forced to the 450 class. That's a bad idea.
It will be refreshing to see all 20 guys in the 450 class be full blown factory riders.
Good job AMA.
Alot (most) of these kids are taking the rides being offered to them (if they are even lucky enough to be offered a ride). If that's riding Lites....well that's what they take.
Gma B
Matter of fact, considering it is a PRO class, the entire concept of amateur-like advancement is stupid.
It's a pro class, it should be open to any pro rider.
It's not a "Pro Novice" class.
You race where you can get work and get paid. Works like that in every form of racing. Michael Schumacher could go race GP2 tomorrow if he wanted and Rossi could race 250GP's again if he wanted
The rider with the most points won last year, after all the motos were done, straight up. That isn't a completely new concept. May want to look into it.
BTW, where is that past champion from 2008 now?
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