Anyone here get PSP for injury recovery? (platelet rich plasma)

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Scheduled for Friday and just wondering? I’ve got to try something to get this ankle going.
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Stem cell research in America and use for treating injuries is a joke. In this case, it is unlikely you will get long term relief, but possibly.
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brocster wrote:
Scheduled for Friday and just wondering? I’ve got to try something to get this ankle going.
Is that plasma injections?
For patellar tendon issues I had it. Only thing that worked
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There are some people at the slow twitch (triathlon) forum that have tried it. I’ve looked into it re knee treatments and the marketing seems shysterish to me. Yet tempting too.
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brocster wrote:
Scheduled for Friday and just wondering? I’ve got to try something to get this ankle going.
Jrewing wrote:
Is that plasma injections?
For patellar tendon issues I had it. Only thing that worked
Yes plasma injections after running your own blood through a centrifuge, then mixing the platelets with your plasma and injecting it into the injured area. Glad you had success with it. Sounds promising as cortisone injections only last a few days for me. I have to try something as it can’t hurt or get worse. Just trying to explore all options before tossing around the idea of fusing my ankle.

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Friend had it for his hips

He broke his pelvis snow boarding on a large drop - could barely walk after he was "healed"

Says the PRP changed his life - he is fully active now and back to riding and boarding.
I think it's like anything else - can work amazing for some and nothing for others.

The stem cell stuff discussed on rogan's podcast has me intrigued - i'd love to give that a go
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Brothers-in-law had his knee done a few years back in MN. Avoided surgery and is 100% now. Swears by PRP.
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Hell yes dudes! Sounds encouraging! Treatment at 2:30 today. Stay tuned as I will post updates along the way.

For those wondering. Pilon fractured my tibia. 4 plates and about 22 screws 1 year ago. Healing has basically slowed to nothing and Ortho said I would probably be better off with a fused ankle (Last option for me). Thinking PSP will help as cortisone injections feel gteat for about 1 week.
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12/18/2018 8:34am Edited Date/Time 12/18/2018 8:38am
Ok. So much to say about my experience thus far. My gauge for relief has been the walk to my morning piss. Was stuck at about 25 steps or so of severe limping for atleast the past two months. (Keep in mind I am one year post op). Had PRP treatment last Friday at 3:30 p.m.
Saturday morning. Limping was reduced to about 10 steps first thing and evening swelling was reduced by about 20%. Only pain throughout the day was where injections were on the outside of the ankle.
Sunday morning. Limping reduced to about 5 steps. Evening swelling reduced about another 10%. Still a little touch pain at injection points.
Monday morning. Limping about two to 3 steps. Evening swelling down another 5% and very close to what it is when I initially wake up. Injection point pain almost null.
Tuesday morning (today) limp completely gone. Pain gone. Will check evening swelling later but the outlook is very positive only being 4 days in. Thus far the cost vs these 4 days of relief and mental state have been worth every penny. Can’t wait for the end result after the 4 weeks for follow up. In saying that, I’ll more than likely opt for a second round for mental insurance purposes to assure that my ankle is the best that it can be given it’s condition.

Pretty sure this treatment may have been able to save some lives (spiraling out of control due to pain management) and don’t know why this is not done at some interval post injury/surgery. Pretty sure this could have help my recovery and ability to fully perform my job months ago.

Edit: Not sure why the cost. Treatment is very quick and non evasive.

Stay tuned!
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Excellent news. In Oz mine was covered with free healthcare. I, through luck, had one our top sports doctors on it. He learnt it in Europe as the doctors of the huge soccer clubs were pioneering it. My knee was so bad I had people using me for medical studies. They’d tried lots of different experimental things but no results. Like you, my response was pretty quick and enabled me to do correct rehab without reinflammation.
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Btw when they spin your blood and you see the separation. The red cells are what cyclists use for blood doping. Freeze up a few cycles for home and you can do 45 min Motos back to back.
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I had an acl revision 3 weeks ago. They did prp injections in there. Still hurts like a mofo!
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Watch this Joe Rogan video. It works better with the stems you get in Panama from placenta cells.
My attorney retired there and 2 doctors in his building had it done in lieu of knee replacement and elbow surgery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUCJo1j0S9s


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I have recently had a combo of PRP and stem cells on my wrist after a bad wrist injury 25+ years ago. The years since, Ive done electrical work my whole adult life - literally wearing out the cartilage in my wrist. The wrist-specialist I was seeing said there was nothing they could do. "the pain will only get worse, until you can't take it and we will have to fuse your wrist" is what I was told. A few months went by and I found out about a place that did the stem cell/PRP procedure. With no other options, I decided to try it. Over a period of 6 months after treatment, I had a tremendous improvement. I probably went from 5-10% use of my wrist to about 75-80% of my "normal". It worked for me. I can ride a dirt bike again, race an occasional MX race, and be more or less pain free in my regular day. Is it as good as new? No... But it made my life somewhat normal again, when NOTHING ELSE worked. I would be happy to give anyone more info if they want to PM me.
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I'm looking at having my 4th knee surgery on January 9th. The ortho doesn't seem too optimistic about the success of the surgery and multiple orthos told me that I would be needing a knee replacement soon. I'm too young for that so I'm looking into stem cell treatments. I got a price for $2500 for stem cells from an umbilical cord and about $4000 for my own stem cells that have to take from my hip.

I'm seriously thinking about postponing the surgery and trying the injections first. Anyone have any results with stem cells?
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I'm looking at having my 4th knee surgery on January 9th. The ortho doesn't seem too optimistic about the success of the surgery and multiple orthos...
I'm looking at having my 4th knee surgery on January 9th. The ortho doesn't seem too optimistic about the success of the surgery and multiple orthos told me that I would be needing a knee replacement soon. I'm too young for that so I'm looking into stem cell treatments. I got a price for $2500 for stem cells from an umbilical cord and about $4000 for my own stem cells that have to take from my hip.

I'm seriously thinking about postponing the surgery and trying the injections first. Anyone have any results with stem cells?
Watch this video to answer your question. $3500 in Panama.
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PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my life will be getting back to 90/95% normal. Worth every penny to me without leaving the country. (Not saying that I wouldn’t have had PRP not worked)
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brocster wrote:
PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my...
PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my life will be getting back to 90/95% normal. Worth every penny to me without leaving the country. (Not saying that I wouldn’t have had PRP not worked)
Where did you have this done? I have a bad ankle that includes the posterior tib tendon ripped, like not showing up on the MRI. I know PRP wouldn't fix that but my joint it shot to the point where I have been told that/ fusion is the fix. i can get along most day and still ride/race but can't be on my feet too long. Is that 9 to 1200 per poke?
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12/19/2018 10:50am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2018 10:55am
Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week and half in and it already feels better and can notice the constant swelling has already gone down. I don’t have to walk on the outside of my foot anymore and I can walk normal. I can press down fully with my toe with no pain.

My buddy destroyed his hip in a flat track race. Got PRP done and said it helped out a ton for about 6 months. Could barely put his shoe on in the morning and now he’s mountain biking out in Colorado every weekend.

The doctors I talked to about my toe told me the PRP might fix my toe. But the stem cells will for sure fix my toe. Therefore I went stem cells.

Be sure to shop around if you go the stem cell route. Some places are $8k, $4k, and I finally found one that wanted to actually help me (I’m 28) and charged me $2.5k. Definitely do your research and asked where they get them and how they extract them. MAKE SURE ITS FDA APPROVED IF ITS IN THE USA UNLESS THEY CAN HARVEST THEM. These places love talking to someone that’s half informed on the subject and shows interest. One place I sat down with that was $4k couldn’t even tell me the places name that they get the stem cells. I thought that was super sketchy. That’s like asking someone where they bought their dirt bike and they don’t know.
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12/19/2018 10:52am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2018 10:53am
Drfletcher wrote:
I'm looking at having my 4th knee surgery on January 9th. The ortho doesn't seem too optimistic about the success of the surgery and multiple orthos...
I'm looking at having my 4th knee surgery on January 9th. The ortho doesn't seem too optimistic about the success of the surgery and multiple orthos told me that I would be needing a knee replacement soon. I'm too young for that so I'm looking into stem cell treatments. I got a price for $2500 for stem cells from an umbilical cord and about $4000 for my own stem cells that have to take from my hip.

I'm seriously thinking about postponing the surgery and trying the injections first. Anyone have any results with stem cells?
A girl I wake surf with know went to the Bahamas and had stem cells done there. Because they can harvest them out of the US. She said she only had 10% of her ACL left and it fully rejuvenated back to 100%

The umbilical cord stem cells rejuvenate faster then the hip ones. I’d do the umbilical cord for $2500. That’s what I did for my toe
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brocster wrote:
Hell yes dudes! Sounds encouraging! Treatment at 2:30 today. Stay tuned as I will post updates along the way. For those wondering. Pilon fractured my tibia...
Hell yes dudes! Sounds encouraging! Treatment at 2:30 today. Stay tuned as I will post updates along the way.

For those wondering. Pilon fractured my tibia. 4 plates and about 22 screws 1 year ago. Healing has basically slowed to nothing and Ortho said I would probably be better off with a fused ankle (Last option for me). Thinking PSP will help as cortisone injections feel gteat for about 1 week.
following!! i am in about the same boat, 4 plates 23 screws on tib, and a rod in my fib... and just pass my 1 year orif.. i currently use a fabtech afo brace which is a life saver when on your feet, i can make it a little while without it but pay for it big time later in the day.
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brocster wrote:
PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my...
PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my life will be getting back to 90/95% normal. Worth every penny to me without leaving the country. (Not saying that I wouldn’t have had PRP not worked)
My brief research was coming up with a lot of variation in pricing. Anecdotally I heard that since it's not covered by insurance, they try and charge more on a 'what do they look like they can pay' basis rather than having fixed costs.

Glad to hear it's working for you. With Osteoarthritis in my knees I'll probably eventually be looking at knee replacement, which is complicated by a rod and screws in the way on one from a prior tib/fib break. In the meantime, the doc was advising cortisone shots as a next step, but hearing they may only help for a few days is downright frightening.
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Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week...
Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week and half in and it already feels better and can notice the constant swelling has already gone down. I don’t have to walk on the outside of my foot anymore and I can walk normal. I can press down fully with my toe with no pain.

My buddy destroyed his hip in a flat track race. Got PRP done and said it helped out a ton for about 6 months. Could barely put his shoe on in the morning and now he’s mountain biking out in Colorado every weekend.

The doctors I talked to about my toe told me the PRP might fix my toe. But the stem cells will for sure fix my toe. Therefore I went stem cells.

Be sure to shop around if you go the stem cell route. Some places are $8k, $4k, and I finally found one that wanted to actually help me (I’m 28) and charged me $2.5k. Definitely do your research and asked where they get them and how they extract them. MAKE SURE ITS FDA APPROVED IF ITS IN THE USA UNLESS THEY CAN HARVEST THEM. These places love talking to someone that’s half informed on the subject and shows interest. One place I sat down with that was $4k couldn’t even tell me the places name that they get the stem cells. I thought that was super sketchy. That’s like asking someone where they bought their dirt bike and they don’t know.
Where did you go to get them done? Im looking at getting it done to my knee.
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12/19/2018 12:43pm Edited Date/Time 12/19/2018 12:44pm
Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week...
Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week and half in and it already feels better and can notice the constant swelling has already gone down. I don’t have to walk on the outside of my foot anymore and I can walk normal. I can press down fully with my toe with no pain.

My buddy destroyed his hip in a flat track race. Got PRP done and said it helped out a ton for about 6 months. Could barely put his shoe on in the morning and now he’s mountain biking out in Colorado every weekend.

The doctors I talked to about my toe told me the PRP might fix my toe. But the stem cells will for sure fix my toe. Therefore I went stem cells.

Be sure to shop around if you go the stem cell route. Some places are $8k, $4k, and I finally found one that wanted to actually help me (I’m 28) and charged me $2.5k. Definitely do your research and asked where they get them and how they extract them. MAKE SURE ITS FDA APPROVED IF ITS IN THE USA UNLESS THEY CAN HARVEST THEM. These places love talking to someone that’s half informed on the subject and shows interest. One place I sat down with that was $4k couldn’t even tell me the places name that they get the stem cells. I thought that was super sketchy. That’s like asking someone where they bought their dirt bike and they don’t know.
Jterry wrote:
Where did you go to get them done? Im looking at getting it done to my knee.
Comprehensive Healthcare in Altamonte Springs, Florida (Orlando Suburb)

www.chcphysicalmed.com

Jimmy Epolito was the guy who I asked all the questions too. Knew all of his stuff.

Sarah and Barry did the physical evaluation and Sarah did the injections.

If you send me a message I'll give you my full name you can use as a reference. (hopefully they'll cut you a deal and likewise for me for referring people). I'll use them in the future if anything happens again.
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How long did it take to notice a significant reduction in pain post prp injection?
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PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my...
PRP therapy was $900 per poke (advertised) capped at $1200. In one treatment I had atleast 5 pokes and $1200 later I can feel that my life will be getting back to 90/95% normal. Worth every penny to me without leaving the country. (Not saying that I wouldn’t have had PRP not worked)
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Where did you have this done? I have a bad ankle that includes the posterior tib tendon ripped, like not showing up on the MRI. I...
Where did you have this done? I have a bad ankle that includes the posterior tib tendon ripped, like not showing up on the MRI. I know PRP wouldn't fix that but my joint it shot to the point where I have been told that/ fusion is the fix. i can get along most day and still ride/race but can't be on my feet too long. Is that 9 to 1200 per poke?
RJ Clinical Institute in Mission Viejo. Was told 900 per poke but would not be more than 1200 total. The math isn’t there but it sounds like the minimum would be 900 and the max 1200 depending on how mant times he poked you. Me 5 times for 1200
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RJ Clinical Institute in Mission Viejo. Was told 900 per poke but would not be more than 1200 total. The math isn’t there but it sounds...
RJ Clinical Institute in Mission Viejo. Was told 900 per poke but would not be more than 1200 total. The math isn’t there but it sounds like the minimum would be 900 and the max 1200 depending on how mant times he poked you. Me 5 times for 1200
Thanks, that sounds really cheap. It's less than my out of pocket for my insurance.
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Another 100% yes vote for PRP. I did some rehab with US Olympians (names you all know) who had it done, much faster recovery post-surgery for me as well. It is especially beneficial for over 30+ ages due to limited or zero HGH levels
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Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week...
Just had stem cell injections in my big toe after 3 years of it not fully healing. (Foot dr wanted to fuse it). I’m a week and half in and it already feels better and can notice the constant swelling has already gone down. I don’t have to walk on the outside of my foot anymore and I can walk normal. I can press down fully with my toe with no pain.

My buddy destroyed his hip in a flat track race. Got PRP done and said it helped out a ton for about 6 months. Could barely put his shoe on in the morning and now he’s mountain biking out in Colorado every weekend.

The doctors I talked to about my toe told me the PRP might fix my toe. But the stem cells will for sure fix my toe. Therefore I went stem cells.

Be sure to shop around if you go the stem cell route. Some places are $8k, $4k, and I finally found one that wanted to actually help me (I’m 28) and charged me $2.5k. Definitely do your research and asked where they get them and how they extract them. MAKE SURE ITS FDA APPROVED IF ITS IN THE USA UNLESS THEY CAN HARVEST THEM. These places love talking to someone that’s half informed on the subject and shows interest. One place I sat down with that was $4k couldn’t even tell me the places name that they get the stem cells. I thought that was super sketchy. That’s like asking someone where they bought their dirt bike and they don’t know.
Jterry wrote:
Where did you go to get them done? Im looking at getting it done to my knee.
Comprehensive Healthcare in Altamonte Springs, Florida (Orlando Suburb) www.chcphysicalmed.com Jimmy Epolito was the guy who I asked all the questions too. Knew all of his stuff...
Comprehensive Healthcare in Altamonte Springs, Florida (Orlando Suburb)

www.chcphysicalmed.com

Jimmy Epolito was the guy who I asked all the questions too. Knew all of his stuff.

Sarah and Barry did the physical evaluation and Sarah did the injections.

If you send me a message I'll give you my full name you can use as a reference. (hopefully they'll cut you a deal and likewise for me for referring people). I'll use them in the future if anything happens again.
The couple places that I have contacted it was $5000 for using your own stem cells. So if this place is half that it would be worth the 9 hour drive. The closest place to me that does it is in Atl which is only 3.5 hours away.

I cant ever get the pm's to work on here but my if you want to send me one with your info when I call them I use you as a reference. Thanks
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Jterry wrote:
The couple places that I have contacted it was $5000 for using your own stem cells. So if this place is half that it would be...
The couple places that I have contacted it was $5000 for using your own stem cells. So if this place is half that it would be worth the 9 hour drive. The closest place to me that does it is in Atl which is only 3.5 hours away.

I cant ever get the pm's to work on here but my if you want to send me one with your info when I call them I use you as a reference. Thanks
I have spoken with Georgia Bone and Joint in Cartersville, GA. Dr. Andrew Riddle did my second shoulder surgery after the first ortho botched it and he is giving me a price of $2,500 for the umbilical cord blood stem cell injection. After doing some research, it seems that the cord blood stem cells have the highest potency factor. I'm leaning towards not doing the knee surgery since the VA doesn't seem to think it will help much and just opt for the stem cell injection.
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12/20/2018 6:00am Edited Date/Time 12/20/2018 9:26am
Drfletcher wrote:
I have spoken with Georgia Bone and Joint in Cartersville, GA. Dr. Andrew Riddle did my second shoulder surgery after the first ortho botched it and...
I have spoken with Georgia Bone and Joint in Cartersville, GA. Dr. Andrew Riddle did my second shoulder surgery after the first ortho botched it and he is giving me a price of $2,500 for the umbilical cord blood stem cell injection. After doing some research, it seems that the cord blood stem cells have the highest potency factor. I'm leaning towards not doing the knee surgery since the VA doesn't seem to think it will help much and just opt for the stem cell injection.
Do you happen to know where they are getting the stem cells from? And the CC they are recommending injecting?

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