Anyone find out what happened to Lamay's Rear wheel?

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Edited Date/Time 6/7/2019 12:17pm
Checked the page and didn’t see a topic on this so, anyone hear what happened? I know those things are close to impossible to install how could it possibly come out from under the tire?
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kb228 5/25/2019 10:13pm
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Id like to know how the hell lamay’s tire blew apart like that. Was so bizarre
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craigathan404 5/25/2019 10:13pm
5/25/2019 10:13pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2019 10:14pm
Do you mean Lamay or did blose have an issue too? That was super bizarre to me
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jmo443 5/25/2019 10:21pm
5/25/2019 10:21pm Edited Date/Time 5/25/2019 10:23pm
Sorry got them confused it was lamay. Guess ktms aren’t red lol. Corrected the title.

Surprised no one brought it up but like the announcers said I don’t believe we’ve ever seen this happen before.
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philG 5/25/2019 11:13pm
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jmo443 wrote:
Sorry got them confused it was lamay. Guess ktms aren’t red lol. Corrected the title. Surprised no one brought it up but like the announcers said...
Sorry got them confused it was lamay. Guess ktms aren’t red lol. Corrected the title.

Surprised no one brought it up but like the announcers said I don’t believe we’ve ever seen this happen before.
It happened at MXoN to Pourcel.. cost them a legit chance at the win
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Premix 5/26/2019 4:41am
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Mousse came apart. Seen it happen several times before depending on how old and what condition it was in.
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Frodad78 5/26/2019 5:15am
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The rumor I heard was that the bead on the tire was broken when they installed the Mousse. Considering how hard they are to put on, and that Ben didn't have a mechanic there. Sounded plausible.
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HONDA H&H 5/26/2019 6:15am
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Frodad78 wrote:
The rumor I heard was that the bead on the tire was broken when they installed the Mousse. Considering how hard they are to put on...
The rumor I heard was that the bead on the tire was broken when they installed the Mousse. Considering how hard they are to put on, and that Ben didn't have a mechanic there. Sounded plausible.
They're not that difficult to install if you know how and certainly not tough enough to break a bead. Top enduro guys can fit them in a couple of minutes
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kkawboy14 5/26/2019 6:39am
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Premix wrote:
Mousse came apart. Seen it happen several times before depending on how old and what condition it was in.
Lamays mousse didn’t come apart, either the lock broke or wasn’t tightened would be my guess
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eric513anderson wrote:
First time I’ve ever seen anything like that happen [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/05/26/350256/s1200_5DC25B38_2C78_4F9C_BBE6_327A8D52C96D.jpg[/img]
First time I’ve ever seen anything like that happen

I wonder if he didn’t have 2 wheel locks?
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resetjet 5/26/2019 7:01am
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Well maybe wrong size? Its just like a flat. Make a turn with a flat and tire comes right off rim. Go straight you can finish an enduro. Probably just a freak racing incident. A rut may have pulled it off.
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bam530 5/26/2019 7:06am
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He said he was doing his effort solo. So it could have been just an oversight by him. Couldn’t imagine doing a national solo and being competitive like he is.
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Frodad78 wrote:
The rumor I heard was that the bead on the tire was broken when they installed the Mousse. Considering how hard they are to put on...
The rumor I heard was that the bead on the tire was broken when they installed the Mousse. Considering how hard they are to put on, and that Ben didn't have a mechanic there. Sounded plausible.
HONDA H&H wrote:
They're not that difficult to install if you know how and certainly not tough enough to break a bead. Top enduro guys can fit them in...
They're not that difficult to install if you know how and certainly not tough enough to break a bead. Top enduro guys can fit them in a couple of minutes
I'm just reporting what my buddy told me last night. He knows someone who knows Tony I guess? I know pretty thin but most rumors are
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Maddeh 5/26/2019 9:54am
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I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only way the rim lock would have helped is if it was miraculously in the same place as the broken bead. The mousse would push itself out regardless.
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aees 5/26/2019 11:35am
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This happen quiet often. There is 2 reasons, if the mousse is not on super excess hours:
1. Wrong mousse paired with wrong tire size
2. Bead is broken

Many people use same mousse when moving from 110 to 120 tire without reflecting over if it will still fit.

Put a Michelin 110-90/19 mousse in a Bridgestone 110/90-19 tire and it will happen for example.
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harescrambled 5/26/2019 11:55am
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Maddeh wrote:
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only...
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only way the rim lock would have helped is if it was miraculously in the same place as the broken bead. The mousse would push itself out regardless.
I know some factory GNCC teams that run 2 rim locks, and they all use mousse inserts...
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Lynch 5/26/2019 12:22pm
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Maddeh wrote:
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only...
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only way the rim lock would have helped is if it was miraculously in the same place as the broken bead. The mousse would push itself out regardless.
You can only skip the rimlock in the front wheel, rear wheel must have one or you're not getting very far.
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Maddeh wrote:
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only...
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only way the rim lock would have helped is if it was miraculously in the same place as the broken bead. The mousse would push itself out regardless.
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You can only skip the rimlock in the front wheel, rear wheel must have one or you're not getting very far.
Ten years Using bibs, and never used a rim lock on either tire. Never had a problem. Everything from enduro to hare and hound racing to 8 days down the Baja peninsula.
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milamcreek 5/26/2019 9:32pm
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Maddeh wrote:
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only...
I’ve seen it happen and it was a broken bead. You don’t need to use a rim lock with a mousse but some people do. Only way the rim lock would have helped is if it was miraculously in the same place as the broken bead. The mousse would push itself out regardless.
Lynch wrote:
You can only skip the rimlock in the front wheel, rear wheel must have one or you're not getting very far.
Maddeh wrote:
Ten years Using bibs, and never used a rim lock on either tire. Never had a problem. Everything from enduro to hare and hound racing to...
Ten years Using bibs, and never used a rim lock on either tire. Never had a problem. Everything from enduro to hare and hound racing to 8 days down the Baja peninsula.
b.s. then you certainly are not pushing it. upon wot rim would just slide around and around.
even with rim locks I have spun a rim ripped tube twice. "no longer use tube lock nut"
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Spot the rim lock
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2:10 - Rim lock
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Do not break the bead - Rim Locked
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Looked like a tube to me the way it was stretched out and wrapped around plus it bounced like it was full of air but what do I know! Looking at the still shot it looks like a bib but watching the way it moved live I thought it was a tube at first.
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DuroTools wrote:
Looked like a tube to me the way it was stretched out and wrapped around plus it bounced like it was full of air but what...
Looked like a tube to me the way it was stretched out and wrapped around plus it bounced like it was full of air but what do I know! Looking at the still shot it looks like a bib but watching the way it moved live I thought it was a tube at first.
It was a moose
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Lynch wrote:
You can only skip the rimlock in the front wheel, rear wheel must have one or you're not getting very far.
Maddeh wrote:
Ten years Using bibs, and never used a rim lock on either tire. Never had a problem. Everything from enduro to hare and hound racing to...
Ten years Using bibs, and never used a rim lock on either tire. Never had a problem. Everything from enduro to hare and hound racing to 8 days down the Baja peninsula.
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b.s. then you certainly are not pushing it. upon wot rim would just slide around and around. even with rim locks I have spun a rim...
b.s. then you certainly are not pushing it. upon wot rim would just slide around and around.
even with rim locks I have spun a rim ripped tube twice. "no longer use tube lock nut"
Yea, try doing a mx dirt start without rim lock. 50/50 chance you wont get any fwd drive.
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