Anybody think Mikey 800 will be a factor outside?

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I'm actually pulling for Mike this Summer. If he makes out of SX healthy, I feel he's going to be a factor. Don't think he has Villipotos raw speed, but he'll be there to capitalize on any mistakes. He's seems to be happy with his program and especially happy with his bike.

What do you guy's think?
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3/29/2012 8:07pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2012 8:09pm
I read the title really fast and thought it said tractor.Laughing

Have to wait and see if he's a factor or a tractor. Honestly if all the heavies are back healthy it's gonna be a dogfight for anybody to get a top 5.

Minus Chad of course.
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3/29/2012 8:09pm
i think so, hes doing good in SX this year

it'd be nice to see him run down RV but i doubt it will happen...
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3/29/2012 8:12pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2012 8:12pm
Not for wins, an occasional top three, and top five. Probably some holeshots. he always finds himself in a good position, and his fitness is for sure there, but as previously stated I don't think his raw speed is there to hang with our past champs.

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3/29/2012 8:12pm
Well, Canard is out, Reed is out, Stewy is in (until he's out). I would say we will see Dungey, Poto, Metty, MA and Townley up front alot.
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3/29/2012 8:14pm
hartebreak wrote:
Well, Canard is out, Reed is out, Stewy is in (until he's out). I would say we will see Dungey, Poto, Metty, MA and Townley up...
Well, Canard is out, Reed is out, Stewy is in (until he's out). I would say we will see Dungey, Poto, Metty, MA and Townley up front alot.
I was just gonna add Canard to my post. Now that I think about it, he's got a good shot. I don't see him beating the two headed Ryan's though.
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3/29/2012 8:15pm
He'll do good at Hangtown I reckon. He always seems fast there.
3/29/2012 8:19pm
Mike is gonna look good this year. A definite threat for the podium every Moto. Vilo will dominate and Mike will pick up his scraps, wins that is.
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I hope hes at the same level as when he was on Factory Suzuki!
3/29/2012 9:09pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2012 9:09pm
hartebreak wrote:
Well, Canard is out, Reed is out, Stewy is in (until he's out). I would say we will see Dungey, Poto, Metty, MA and Townley up...
Well, Canard is out, Reed is out, Stewy is in (until he's out). I would say we will see Dungey, Poto, Metty, MA and Townley up front alot.
Mikey is looking like a factor to me.

A big crash byt the ryans and you will be having to deal with mikey for the title.

Can he beat them week in and week out? No.

But he can beat them to the 15 or 20 minute mark.....and 24 motos is precarious for any championshiphopeful.

I am hoping Mike get's his wheel in.....always root for him to do well.
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3/29/2012 9:10pm
if by factor you mean pulling the holeshot and dropping anchor (riding backwards)...yes!!!
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3/29/2012 10:35pm Edited Date/Time 3/29/2012 10:36pm
Mikey is looking like a factor to me. A big crash byt the ryans and you will be having to deal with mikey for the title...
Mikey is looking like a factor to me.

A big crash byt the ryans and you will be having to deal with mikey for the title.

Can he beat them week in and week out? No.

But he can beat them to the 15 or 20 minute mark.....and 24 motos is precarious for any championshiphopeful.

I am hoping Mike get's his wheel in.....always root for him to do well.
That's pretty classic. Mike's success, in your mind, is only assured by the failures of others! WOW.

But here's a lil' more on your train of thought... last years points:

AMA Motocross 450 Championship Points:
1. Ryan Villopoto, 526
2. Ryan Dungey, 514
3. Chad Reed, 382
4. Brett Metcalfe, 374
5. Mike Alessi, 304
6. Jake Weimer, 271
7. Justin Brayton, 218
8. Andrew Short, 196
9. Kevin Windham, 193
10. Davi Millsaps, 173

222 and 210 points is over a 4 moto DNF spread.

And no, I don't think he'll be a factor. Not that I want it that way, I just don't. It always nice to be proven wrong though.
3/29/2012 10:38pm
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That's pretty classic. Mike's success, in your mind, is only assured by the failures of others! WOW. But here's a lil' more on your train of...
That's pretty classic. Mike's success, in your mind, is only assured by the failures of others! WOW.

But here's a lil' more on your train of thought... last years points:

AMA Motocross 450 Championship Points:
1. Ryan Villopoto, 526
2. Ryan Dungey, 514
3. Chad Reed, 382
4. Brett Metcalfe, 374
5. Mike Alessi, 304
6. Jake Weimer, 271
7. Justin Brayton, 218
8. Andrew Short, 196
9. Kevin Windham, 193
10. Davi Millsaps, 173

222 and 210 points is over a 4 moto DNF spread.

And no, I don't think he'll be a factor. Not that I want it that way, I just don't. It always nice to be proven wrong though.
Mikey didn't even race the first few rounds last year
3/29/2012 10:40pm
Mikey is looking like a factor to me. A big crash byt the ryans and you will be having to deal with mikey for the title...
Mikey is looking like a factor to me.

A big crash byt the ryans and you will be having to deal with mikey for the title.

Can he beat them week in and week out? No.

But he can beat them to the 15 or 20 minute mark.....and 24 motos is precarious for any championshiphopeful.

I am hoping Mike get's his wheel in.....always root for him to do well.
Dano39 wrote:
That's pretty classic. Mike's success, in your mind, is only assured by the failures of others! WOW. But here's a lil' more on your train of...
That's pretty classic. Mike's success, in your mind, is only assured by the failures of others! WOW.

But here's a lil' more on your train of thought... last years points:

AMA Motocross 450 Championship Points:
1. Ryan Villopoto, 526
2. Ryan Dungey, 514
3. Chad Reed, 382
4. Brett Metcalfe, 374
5. Mike Alessi, 304
6. Jake Weimer, 271
7. Justin Brayton, 218
8. Andrew Short, 196
9. Kevin Windham, 193
10. Davi Millsaps, 173

222 and 210 points is over a 4 moto DNF spread.

And no, I don't think he'll be a factor. Not that I want it that way, I just don't. It always nice to be proven wrong though.
You said that,not me.

I have always argued that mike has been highly successful ......and his millions of dollars and millions of photographs in magazines and tv time make this a no win argument for you.

Unless of course you think only RC has been successful.
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3/29/2012 10:43pm
It doesn't matter, if you are to assume they are going to crash it's only fair to assume he will also? Right?
3/29/2012 10:50pm
By the same logic Villo wasn't going to be a factor last year for the championship because he was like 500 pts behind in 2010 and 2009
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3/29/2012 11:31pm
By the same logic Villo wasn't going to be a factor last year for the championship because he was like 500 pts behind in 2010 and...
By the same logic Villo wasn't going to be a factor last year for the championship because he was like 500 pts behind in 2010 and 2009
WRONG. In 2009 RV won the first race(Glen Helen) and then pulled out for the rest of the series. In 2010 he never entered it due to his mangled leg from Supercross. Mike crashed and then went on to compete once again for the rest of the season.

SEE how that works... crashing big doesn't necessarily correlate with crashing out! Ex: RV at Red Bud first moto last year.

And since the original post I quoted was about a big crash and not about crashing out... see it yet?

But let's look at this another way, what does knowitall's statement say about Mike's chances if the Ryan's don't crash big?
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You said that,not me. I have always argued that mike has been highly successful ......and his millions of dollars and millions of photographs in magazines and...
You said that,not me.

I have always argued that mike has been highly successful ......and his millions of dollars and millions of photographs in magazines and tv time make this a no win argument for you.

Unless of course you think only RC has been successful.
Of course it's a no win argument for me, because we weren't discussing Mike's financial success or popularity!
3/29/2012 11:51pm
You said that,not me. I have always argued that mike has been highly successful ......and his millions of dollars and millions of photographs in magazines and...
You said that,not me.

I have always argued that mike has been highly successful ......and his millions of dollars and millions of photographs in magazines and tv time make this a no win argument for you.

Unless of course you think only RC has been successful.
Dano39 wrote:
Of course it's a no win argument for me, because we weren't discussing Mike's financial success or popularity!
Ok point out the successful guys and then also point out the non factors from your littl points list.
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3/30/2012 12:10am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2012 12:12am
Look man, try to stay on the point! YOU said this: "A big crash byt the ryans and you will be having to deal with mikey for the title."

Which means, your "condition" for Mike to be in the title hunt is that the Ryan's crash big. That's what you said. So by REASON, if you take that condition away, no one will be having to deal with mikey for the title.

You can't have it both ways, otherwise you wouldn't have stated the "condition" in the first place. You would have just believed Mike was a title contender to begin with.

I simply find that a flawed way of thinking whether someone is going to be a factor for title contention. That's all.
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I just hope he will ride with the form he had in 08/09, if not better. He's shown some decent speed at a few SX races, so fingers crossed.
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3/30/2012 1:45am Edited Date/Time 3/30/2012 2:51am
Top 5's and maybe some podiums.
Mike has the skills no doubt.

As far as a title or winning some overalls, I think that ship has sailed.
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3/30/2012 3:15am
I think he will be a factor in both speed and drama. I think "the universe" will have it's hands full this summer...
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3/30/2012 3:30am
Podiums and top 5's, wouldn't rule out moto wins or even an overall!
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3/30/2012 8:45am
If his fitness is there and he is comfortable with that bike he will be podium material, regularly. I just wonder how much non factory suspenders will hinder him 20 minutes or so into a moto.
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3/30/2012 8:50am
SlowMoFo wrote:
I hope hes at the same level as when he was on Factory Suzuki!
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He would've done a lot better last year if he wouldn't have eaten shit in practice/qualifiers. He looks alot more comfortable on the Suzuki than he did on the KTM. Also, I hope Jeff can get back to the pace he was at when he was on Honda's about 4 years ago. Both could be top 10 finishers.
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3/30/2012 8:55am
I would ask if he wins a 2nd moto but not the overall, will he still ride up onto the podium and do a burnout for the fans???

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