Any update on Marty?

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Sully 2/18/2018 4:21pm
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Not a Davalos fan but he's exactly right. That was total horseshit from the guys behind him. Looked to me like they had no intention of...
Not a Davalos fan but he's exactly right. That was total horseshit from the guys behind him. Looked to me like they had no intention of braking.
The guy who hit him looked like he had no intention of turning into the first turn, much less hitting his brakes.
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doghouse 2/18/2018 4:30pm
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There is no entry level supercross class. People are hilarious.
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crusty_xx 2/18/2018 4:39pm
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I love Vital because if I had a bad day, or did something stupid, I just come here and I see what BS people come up with on the daily. Feel a lot better then.
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Racer111 2/18/2018 5:29pm
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Spizzy wrote:
Barcia did.
No, Barcia is on what we call a “Factory Backed Yamaha 450.” That is slightly different than buying a bike and doing it on your own.

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msp138 2/18/2018 6:08pm
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Steve Lamson was just better at riding a 125 than a 250. John Dowd dropped down and rode the shit out of a 125. Mike Brown was a badass on a lites bike as well. These riders are arguably "legends" of the sport while never having success on the bigger bikes. If it was Lamson vs Stewart in their prime on 125s I don't think it would have been a clear winner. If davalos killed it all year long he'd be in this list and everyone would forget about how long he was in the class 10 years from now.
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mx317 2/18/2018 6:46pm
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colintrax wrote:
Marty. It's "brake" not break. You fuggin idiot.
How well could you spell in his native language?
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TbonesPop 2/18/2018 7:08pm
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Im aware of the hows and whys. I simply used him going at it on his own as an example. Pointing out or not, a decade...
Im aware of the hows and whys. I simply used him going at it on his own as an example.
Pointing out or not, a decade in 250s is not right, and I cant sympathize with Marty based on that decision.
Using Barcia as an example to make your point was a bad example IMO. Not just for the fact that he pointed out of the lites class, but because Barcia said he has made enough money at this point in his career that he could have retired after last season and still led a very comfortable life (his words, not mine). He really had nothing to lose, so what risk was he taking? It just wasn't a good example. Dean Wilson would have been a better example as he has gone on record that if he wasn't racing for a team, he wouldn't be able to make it for very long because he doesn't have a lot of money (by comparison to some of the other riders like Barcia). He's also gone on record that he's not that well-educated so if he fails at racing, his fall back plan is likely working construction or something (not that construction doesn't take some knowledge, but it's not like Dean has a college degree). Wilson had a lot more at risk than Barcia. But back to the original point, anyone with a half of a brain would take a paid job over a volunteer position if given the choice, regardless of the class. It's a no brainer. You can prove your skill set on a lites bike just as easily as you can on a big bike.
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Spizzy wrote:
Im aware of the hows and whys. I simply used him going at it on his own as an example. Pointing out or not, a decade...
Im aware of the hows and whys. I simply used him going at it on his own as an example.
Pointing out or not, a decade in 250s is not right, and I cant sympathize with Marty based on that decision.
Pretty sure he isn’t concerned about your sympathy, but, are you so biased that you can’t see that this incident was the result of a bonehead failure it occurred in SX 250 east or in your local c class:
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So let me get this straight, Marty puts in a stellar 450 outdoor season in his first attempt on the big bike, wasn't able to secure a 450 SX ride which is what he was chasing, instead accepts a top tier 250 ride again (with full aspirations of going 450 outdoors once more), hauls the mail in qualifying and pulled away from Zach in the heat, is on his way to a holeshot in the main, gets punted by a 15th place guy, calls him out for it, and you all bag on Davalos?

Wow.
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BS12 wrote:
So let me get this straight, Marty puts in a stellar 450 outdoor season in his first attempt on the big bike, wasn't able to secure...
So let me get this straight, Marty puts in a stellar 450 outdoor season in his first attempt on the big bike, wasn't able to secure a 450 SX ride which is what he was chasing, instead accepts a top tier 250 ride again (with full aspirations of going 450 outdoors once more), hauls the mail in qualifying and pulled away from Zach in the heat, is on his way to a holeshot in the main, gets punted by a 15th place guy, calls him out for it, and you all bag on Davalos?

Wow.
Welcome to Vital....
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C.Worthy 2/19/2018 4:12pm
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BS12 wrote:
So let me get this straight, Marty puts in a stellar 450 outdoor season in his first attempt on the big bike, wasn't able to secure...
So let me get this straight, Marty puts in a stellar 450 outdoor season in his first attempt on the big bike, wasn't able to secure a 450 SX ride which is what he was chasing, instead accepts a top tier 250 ride again (with full aspirations of going 450 outdoors once more), hauls the mail in qualifying and pulled away from Zach in the heat, is on his way to a holeshot in the main, gets punted by a 15th place guy, calls him out for it, and you all bag on Davalos?

Wow.
Sums it up. Couldn't have said it better.
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RandyS 2/22/2018 7:36am
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doghouse wrote:
There is no entry level supercross class. People are hilarious.
Really, then why is there a point out system in place?
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seth505 2/22/2018 7:46am
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Why does he want other riders to break stuff?
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make1go 2/22/2018 8:30am
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these guys slagging a guy for getting a well paid job, for which hes fully qualified for.. laughable .....and im sure if they were in that position they would say no thanks...not just laughable a complete lie...

Hes pissed fersur, its never fun to be clobbered unexpectedly from behind..but its racing and everything and anything can happen.

Heal up Marty
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doghouse 2/22/2018 8:47am
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doghouse wrote:
There is no entry level supercross class. People are hilarious.
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Really, then why is there a point out system in place?
That doesn't have anything to do with what I said. Unless you have evidence these are not all card carrying professional bike racers, then it's as noted, there is no entry level in supercross.
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reynardfan1 2/22/2018 8:52am
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Watch the video of Jordon Smiths go pro on the homepage...

Davalos cut that shit way down and only had a wheel on about 12 guys coming in hot, what did he expect would happen. Newton’s law of motion bro...

He made a rookie mistake in the rookie class..
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GrapeApe 2/22/2018 8:57am
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Marty needs to watch Smith's GoPro footage, and then apologize to Smith and Osby. A veteran should know how that move would turn out.

Edit: Reynard beat me, again
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Wandell 2/22/2018 9:01am
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crusty_xx wrote:
I love Vital because if I had a bad day, or did something stupid, I just come here and I see what BS people come up...
I love Vital because if I had a bad day, or did something stupid, I just come here and I see what BS people come up with on the daily. Feel a lot better then.
Amen!!

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Falcon 2/22/2018 9:09am
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msp138 wrote:
Steve Lamson was just better at riding a 125 than a 250. John Dowd dropped down and rode the shit out of a 125. Mike Brown...
Steve Lamson was just better at riding a 125 than a 250. John Dowd dropped down and rode the shit out of a 125. Mike Brown was a badass on a lites bike as well. These riders are arguably "legends" of the sport while never having success on the bigger bikes. If it was Lamson vs Stewart in their prime on 125s I don't think it would have been a clear winner. If davalos killed it all year long he'd be in this list and everyone would forget about how long he was in the class 10 years from now.
This.
Back in my day, we called them "125 Specialists." It was considered a badge of honor to be able to ride a smaller bike as fast or faster than guys on bigger machines.
Johnny O'Mara was one of the greatest 125 specialists; you guys may remember hearing about the spank-fest he threw down on most of the guys at the MXDN in 1986, including a number of world champions on 250s and 500s.

As for me, I consider the 250F class to be as competitive as the 450s for the most part. In fact, I bet you'd see a lot of the 450 heroes struggle somewhat in the 250SX class if they dropped down. Riding a 250F is harder on a Supercross track, and the guys who have it dialed are pretty awesome riders.
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RandyS 2/22/2018 9:17am
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msp138 wrote:
Steve Lamson was just better at riding a 125 than a 250. John Dowd dropped down and rode the shit out of a 125. Mike Brown...
Steve Lamson was just better at riding a 125 than a 250. John Dowd dropped down and rode the shit out of a 125. Mike Brown was a badass on a lites bike as well. These riders are arguably "legends" of the sport while never having success on the bigger bikes. If it was Lamson vs Stewart in their prime on 125s I don't think it would have been a clear winner. If davalos killed it all year long he'd be in this list and everyone would forget about how long he was in the class 10 years from now.
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This. Back in my day, we called them "125 Specialists." It was considered a badge of honor to be able to ride a smaller bike as...
This.
Back in my day, we called them "125 Specialists." It was considered a badge of honor to be able to ride a smaller bike as fast or faster than guys on bigger machines.
Johnny O'Mara was one of the greatest 125 specialists; you guys may remember hearing about the spank-fest he threw down on most of the guys at the MXDN in 1986, including a number of world champions on 250s and 500s.

As for me, I consider the 250F class to be as competitive as the 450s for the most part. In fact, I bet you'd see a lot of the 450 heroes struggle somewhat in the 250SX class if they dropped down. Riding a 250F is harder on a Supercross track, and the guys who have it dialed are pretty awesome riders.
Omara didn't race 125SX his entire career. Beginner/rookie, whatever you want to call it class. It was created to allow the newer professionals a learning class without being thrown straight to the wolves. Outdoor are equal classes, 450 is a little more prestigious but both equal because the riders coming into outdoors have done the same thing their entire lives, Supercross they haven't.
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bayodome 2/22/2018 10:35am
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The result of being a veteran in what's supposed to be a development class. I no longer blame Davalos for staying in the 250s for so long...the guy makes a good living racing dirt bikes and despite a great showing last year on the 450 outdoors he still could only find a 250 deal.

However the types of incidents that occurred last weekend largely come from inexperienced and over zealous riders. If you don't want to be subjected to that type of racing, then don't compete in a development class.
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yz133rider wrote:
Yeah tell that to all the guys in 450 class who've been on the ground in the first turn also. Happens constantly. The starts so important...
Yeah tell that to all the guys in 450 class who've been on the ground in the first turn also. Happens constantly. The starts so important and 22 wide into one turn doesnt work.
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Yeah SX is too start dependent. imo On one had people complain there aren't many battles, but then don't want to try new ideas. I want...
Yeah SX is too start dependent. imo
On one had people complain there aren't many battles, but then don't want to try new ideas.

I want it like almost all other motor sports, get the fast guys up front right from the start.

The guy that ran into Davalos had a fast lap of 56. The leaders were at 51. Why in our sport do we allow a guy that much slower to literally line up right next to the fastest riders? Where's the reward for being a fast qualifier?
yz133rider wrote:
Exactly you get it. Nobody else seems to get it.
And most of those car races are as exciting to watch a paint dring.... maybe an old style Le Mans start make the fuckers run to the bike first and then kick start it none of this electric start bullshit and let’s hope the slowest guys get of to a good start first so we can watch some racing instead of follow the leader.
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PRM31 2/23/2018 6:02am
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Marty certainly didn't do himself any favors the way he cut across. Hope he's ok. When the use of the grid was first mentioned, some said it would group everyone up in the first turn just a bit more. Seems to be true. 22 guys going for it, things are going to happen.
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TDeath21 2/23/2018 7:51am
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Lol he can’t be mad.

First, he moved way over and chopped the line. He went aggressive into the first turn and so did the other guy. Shit happens.

Second, in the 250 class full of teenagers, this is going to happen a lot more often than on the 450. He knew that when he signed yet another 250 contract.
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Phantom 661 2/23/2018 8:58am
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Hope he heals up quick! I don't care if the riders have been in the 250 class fora hundred years. If they can ride that damn good.... I'm gonna watch it and be grateful! Who's with me?
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deluxeman 2/23/2018 9:27am
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So how is he doing? Did anyone answer the question?

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