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3/4/2020 5:06 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/4/2020 5:24 AM

I am having a hard time finding an extended van in my price range.
I need a bench seat for the kids(6&10y/o) but they don't need a ton of room . I will be hauling 2 50s, 450, Zuma and typical race day crap.
Do you think all that could fit in a regular van if setup right ?
Most likely the 450 will be staying in the garage more and more.

Next questions:

Would you rather buy a newer van with high miles or an older van with low miles ?

What do you guys think about the high-top handicap vans? I've found some good deals on those.

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3/4/2020 5:18 AM

I would just keep looking and get what you need/want.

BUT, if the 450 is optional, you could get a hitch hauler for that and design the race van setup around the kids. I would think a reg van would be fine. You know how time flys and those 50s will be 125s soon.

Low miles, Older for me. With in a 15 year range. I don't want a 70s panel van with a fresh V8... grin

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3/4/2020 5:33 AM

I'm certainly not an expert, but you can fit three full-size motocross bikes, small toolbox, gear, and gas cans, in a regular length Ford E150 van, if you back one bike in the center. Be sure and mount the bench seat close to the front seats.

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3/4/2020 5:48 AM

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If you can ditch the zuma for an EMTB I think you can pull it off. Here's my rig. If you see me at the track you are welcome to crawl around with a tape measure.
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3/4/2020 9:15 AM

I had an extended E350 for years, miss it.

Middle seat, five adults comfortably, three full size bikes in the back with all our gear.

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3/4/2020 9:22 AM

If you want to safely haul your kids I would advise purchasing a passenger van and removing the back couple rows to fit the bikes.

I don't have kids, but if I did I wouldn't want them riding on some janky bench seat setup screwed into the floor. silly

You didn't say your price range but I think between $10-15K you could find either a Ford E350 or Express/Savana 3500 passenger van in decent shape with reasonable miles.

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3/4/2020 9:48 AM

49weasel wrote:

I am having a hard time finding an extended van in my price range.
I need a bench seat for the kids(6&10y/o) but they don't need a ton of room . I will be hauling 2 50s, 450, Zuma and typical race day crap.
Do you think all that could fit in a regular van if setup right ?
Most likely the 450 will be staying in the garage more and more.

Next questions:

Would you rather buy a newer van with high miles or an older van with low miles ?

What do you guys think about the high-top handicap vans? I've found some good deals on those.

Here is one Photo

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3/4/2020 10:05 AM

49weasel wrote:

I am having a hard time finding an extended van in my price range.
I need a bench seat for the kids(6&10y/o) but they don't need a ton of room . I will be hauling 2 50s, 450, Zuma and typical race day crap.
Do you think all that could fit in a regular van if setup right ?
Most likely the 450 will be staying in the garage more and more.

Next questions:

Would you rather buy a newer van with high miles or an older van with low miles ?

What do you guys think about the high-top handicap vans? I've found some good deals on those.

triplej533 wrote:

Here is one Photo

245k miles for 12 grand...ouch.

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3/4/2020 10:27 AM

49weasel wrote:

I am having a hard time finding an extended van in my price range.
I need a bench seat for the kids(6&10y/o) but they don't need a ton of room . I will be hauling 2 50s, 450, Zuma and typical race day crap.
Do you think all that could fit in a regular van if setup right ?
Most likely the 450 will be staying in the garage more and more.

Next questions:

Would you rather buy a newer van with high miles or an older van with low miles ?

What do you guys think about the high-top handicap vans? I've found some good deals on those.

triplej533 wrote:

Here is one Photo

yz133rider wrote:

245k miles for 12 grand...ouch.

Yea that's a 6-8k van with those miles.

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3/4/2020 11:09 AM

triplej533 wrote:

Here is one Photo

yz133rider wrote:

245k miles for 12 grand...ouch.

49weasel wrote:

Yea that's a 6-8k van with those miles.

Jesus I have a 06 extended, insulated interior, insulated divider wall, captains chairs in the front, bench seat that fold into bed behind, carpeted front, wood floor in back, with shelf built into door, all the doors are insulated and finished with wood, 215k miles, rust around back wheels Ill sell for $4500 lmao.

Why does everyone with a motovan that is finished think they're worth 3 times what a normal van is worth lol, I spent about 400 bucks total to build my wall, lay whole wood floor down, all the seats, screws, bunch of misc hooks, etc.

Granted this van is way sicker than mine with the color and wheels, etc. but its not gonna get the job done any better.



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3/4/2020 11:19 AM

I know that van and I will put money down that nobody can come up with a van in as good of shape, with no rust, and all the stuff done to it for 6k range like you guys say it’s worth

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3/4/2020 3:10 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/4/2020 3:11 PM

Shaggin589 wrote:

I know that van and I will put money down that nobody can come up with a van in as good of shape, with no rust, and all the stuff done to it for 6k range like you guys say it’s worth

Maybe not already done but I could buy one with half the miles and do that stuff to it and not have 12,000 in it lol

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3/4/2020 5:19 PM

Shaggin589 wrote:

I know that van and I will put money down that nobody can come up with a van in as good of shape, with no rust, and all the stuff done to it for 6k range like you guys say it’s worth

motomike894 wrote:

Maybe not already done but I could buy one with half the miles and do that stuff to it and not have 12,000 in it lol

I’d be really surprised.

Clean Van with 125000 miles looking 10-12k if not more
Build metal wall with plywood labor and materials 2-3k
Rockford fosgate Stereo system with back up camera 2k-3k with labor
Wheels and tires 2200
Wrap 3k
Toe hitch with install 500
2nd battery with insulator, nverter and isulator 1k
Tow mirrors 300
Led headlights 300 and bulbs
The list goes on.

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3/4/2020 6:06 PM

Get a Chevy if you have a choice. They open up more in the back and much easier to load full size bikes into.

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3/4/2020 6:14 PM

49weasel wrote:

I am having a hard time finding an extended van in my price range.
I need a bench seat for the kids(6&10y/o) but they don't need a ton of room . I will be hauling 2 50s, 450, Zuma and typical race day crap.
Do you think all that could fit in a regular van if setup right ?
Most likely the 450 will be staying in the garage more and more.

Next questions:

Would you rather buy a newer van with high miles or an older van with low miles ?

What do you guys think about the high-top handicap vans? I've found some good deals on those.

A couple years ago I had a 2001 savana passenger van and had the second second row stock seat in the stock position with all factory installed seatbelts and could fit 3 full size bikes in it fairly easy along with all the gear. Was usually a one bike van though with plenty extra room.

Just thIs past Friday I picked up a E150 cargo with a factory seat installed. In that position I didn’t have enough room to fit the bike lengthwise and can’t do diagonal as I’ll occasionally have 2 bikes. I re located the factory second row seat base mounts through the floor using all existing hardware and to have enough room to fit the bikes straight in the back seat is only about 4” behind the back of the front seats in their full rear position.

If I were you and bringing the family along I would get a GMC or Chevy as there is a tad bid more space that works well for Moto. Only draw back is that in the lower price ranges you’ll only be able to get the years that the shitty base primer was used and the paint will peel right off the exterior if it hasn’t already.

I’ve had both fords and gm’s and it’s a toss up. I like the way the fords drive but like the space of the gm’s. At any rate vans are friggin awesome. Good luck!

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3/4/2020 6:19 PM

Shaggin589 wrote:

I know that van and I will put money down that nobody can come up with a van in as good of shape, with no rust, and all the stuff done to it for 6k range like you guys say it’s worth

motomike894 wrote:

Maybe not already done but I could buy one with half the miles and do that stuff to it and not have 12,000 in it lol

triplej533 wrote:

I’d be really surprised.

Clean Van with 125000 miles looking 10-12k if not more
Build metal wall with plywood labor and materials 2-3k
Rockford fosgate Stereo system with back up camera 2k-3k with labor
Wheels and tires 2200
Wrap 3k
Toe hitch with install 500
2nd battery with insulator, nverter and isulator 1k
Tow mirrors 300
Led headlights 300 and bulbs
The list goes on.

Can I do work for you??? 2k-3k for a wall??? Was it built out of gold?

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3/4/2020 6:58 PM

motomike894 wrote:

Maybe not already done but I could buy one with half the miles and do that stuff to it and not have 12,000 in it lol

triplej533 wrote:

I’d be really surprised.

Clean Van with 125000 miles looking 10-12k if not more
Build metal wall with plywood labor and materials 2-3k
Rockford fosgate Stereo system with back up camera 2k-3k with labor
Wheels and tires 2200
Wrap 3k
Toe hitch with install 500
2nd battery with insulator, nverter and isulator 1k
Tow mirrors 300
Led headlights 300 and bulbs
The list goes on.

brocster wrote:

Can I do work for you??? 2k-3k for a wall??? Was it built out of gold?

No shit lol 2-3k for a wall lol, that’s all I had total in my 2006 extended Ford I bought two years ago, after building my wall, seats, wood, etc, 160k miles, I got my led headlights both complete assy for 40 bucks shipped on eBay been one there two years still work perfect.

I must just be a lucky guy


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3/4/2020 6:59 PM

motomike894 wrote:

Maybe not already done but I could buy one with half the miles and do that stuff to it and not have 12,000 in it lol

triplej533 wrote:

I’d be really surprised.

Clean Van with 125000 miles looking 10-12k if not more
Build metal wall with plywood labor and materials 2-3k
Rockford fosgate Stereo system with back up camera 2k-3k with labor
Wheels and tires 2200
Wrap 3k
Toe hitch with install 500
2nd battery with insulator, nverter and isulator 1k
Tow mirrors 300
Led headlights 300 and bulbs
The list goes on.

brocster wrote:

Can I do work for you??? 2k-3k for a wall??? Was it built out of gold?

I don’t know how cheap they are if you can do it yourself but like rb and motobox and other van builders usually charge at least that if not more but again I don’t kmow how much it cost if you can do it yourself

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3/5/2020 4:22 AM

3 full size bikes is squeeze in a regular van. No floor space for stands/gear bags. I have the regular length with a wall and back seat, but it only seats 3 Photo and the back seat butts against the front seats. The extended vans are hard to find. I wish I had waited and found an extended van, but my does the job just fine.

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