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FU2 wrote:

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here...

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here on the blacklist as poison. Sooner or later it pops up.

Or it's just the coke,booz and the women.

Maybe they should contact Deano to get some CBD.

Pigdog wrote:

Euros get it as well https://enduro21.com/index.php/endurogp/4319-i-was-crying-my-eyes-out-h…

FU2 wrote:

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here...

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here on the blacklist as poison. Sooner or later it pops up.

Or it's just the coke,booz and the women.

Maybe they should contact Deano to get some CBD.

bvm111 wrote:

Yes it is... Gregor Mendel discovered genetics by modifying pea plants in Austria in the mid 1800s ... there is no such thing as truly Non...

Yes it is... Gregor Mendel discovered genetics by modifying pea plants in Austria in the mid 1800s ... there is no such thing as truly Non genetically modified anything anymore. And to claim that Blake is having issues because of wheat that can grow in drought conditions that is grown all over the world is disingenuous.

FU2 wrote:

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here...

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here on the blacklist as poison. Sooner or later it pops up.

Or it's just the coke,booz and the women.

Maybe they should contact Deano to get some CBD.

philG wrote:

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days. No other sport...

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days.

No other sport even comes close .

I also think the lack of recovery time between races for the AMA guys is a factor, having all the races back to back, means you cant get stuff properly into the body and get it absorbed between races, in MXGP they have an extra hour , and i think thats a major consideration,

To expect these guys to stay at a top level for a season that runs every weekend pretty much , is asking for trouble.

When you look at Oylmpic athletes , they race so little is untrue , they train all year for one or two major events, with a smattering of others thrown in, You dont see Usain Bolt racing every saturday afternoon.

The only schedule that comes close is Soccer, here in europe, i know baseball play 8 million games a year , but pretty sure. sitting on your arse for most of it doesnt take a lot of effort... same for NFL. although the NFL season is 16 games, those boys know how to milk it.

And then you have the travel, exposed to all sorts of shit air on planes.

i had a virus years ago, literally wiped me out, used to come home from work, and have to sleep for an hour, like the dead. to get through the rest of the day.. i had trained over the winter well ( for me, a bit of gym work and fitness) and changed jobs just as the season started , and it went downhill pretty quick, to the point where i went to one race, did 3 laps of practice and was spent... turned out the Lab i worked in had Aircon that was screwed, i ran the forklift into it and it was down for a week, i felt better after 3 days and in the 9 days from when i 'fixed it' to when they 'fixed it' , i was back to good, by the wednesday of the next week i was back to how i was, 2 weeks later i quit.

All these guys living in fully airconditioned places in Florida Etc are not helping themselves IMO, air quality is a major contributor to so many things,

Timo_2824 wrote:

You mean wheat is really supposed to be 4 ft tall? Don't be bringing in facts to this conversation, people like to think that all of...

You mean wheat is really supposed to be 4 ft tall? Don't be bringing in facts to this conversation, people like to think that all of the food they are eating now is exactly what people were eating 10,000 years ago... You think cows had black and white hides back then? You think pigs were as friendly as dogs? Some people just live in their own little bubble.... Genetically modified food has been around as long as farming has existed.

Casting wrote:

What color did cows used to be?

philG wrote:

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days. No other sport...

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days.

No other sport even comes close .

I also think the lack of recovery time between races for the AMA guys is a factor, having all the races back to back, means you cant get stuff properly into the body and get it absorbed between races, in MXGP they have an extra hour , and i think thats a major consideration,

To expect these guys to stay at a top level for a season that runs every weekend pretty much , is asking for trouble.

When you look at Oylmpic athletes , they race so little is untrue , they train all year for one or two major events, with a smattering of others thrown in, You dont see Usain Bolt racing every saturday afternoon.

The only schedule that comes close is Soccer, here in europe, i know baseball play 8 million games a year , but pretty sure. sitting on your arse for most of it doesnt take a lot of effort... same for NFL. although the NFL season is 16 games, those boys know how to milk it.

And then you have the travel, exposed to all sorts of shit air on planes.

i had a virus years ago, literally wiped me out, used to come home from work, and have to sleep for an hour, like the dead. to get through the rest of the day.. i had trained over the winter well ( for me, a bit of gym work and fitness) and changed jobs just as the season started , and it went downhill pretty quick, to the point where i went to one race, did 3 laps of practice and was spent... turned out the Lab i worked in had Aircon that was screwed, i ran the forklift into it and it was down for a week, i felt better after 3 days and in the 9 days from when i 'fixed it' to when they 'fixed it' , i was back to good, by the wednesday of the next week i was back to how i was, 2 weeks later i quit.

All these guys living in fully airconditioned places in Florida Etc are not helping themselves IMO, air quality is a major contributor to so many things,

agn5009 wrote:

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes...

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes on. My personal opinion is this is the greatest sport on earth. However I don’t get blinded by that and say it’s the most physically demanding sport just because it’s my favorite. I’m in pretty decent shape. I could absolutely positively get myself through a professional mx race. Will I be tired? Sure. Will I be able to go 100% the entire time? Probably not. Do you know what I absolutely could not will myself through? A marathon. There’s a 0% chance I’m making it.

I agree with everything else you’ve said though.

philG wrote:

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days. No other sport...

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days.

No other sport even comes close .

I also think the lack of recovery time between races for the AMA guys is a factor, having all the races back to back, means you cant get stuff properly into the body and get it absorbed between races, in MXGP they have an extra hour , and i think thats a major consideration,

To expect these guys to stay at a top level for a season that runs every weekend pretty much , is asking for trouble.

When you look at Oylmpic athletes , they race so little is untrue , they train all year for one or two major events, with a smattering of others thrown in, You dont see Usain Bolt racing every saturday afternoon.

The only schedule that comes close is Soccer, here in europe, i know baseball play 8 million games a year , but pretty sure. sitting on your arse for most of it doesnt take a lot of effort... same for NFL. although the NFL season is 16 games, those boys know how to milk it.

And then you have the travel, exposed to all sorts of shit air on planes.

i had a virus years ago, literally wiped me out, used to come home from work, and have to sleep for an hour, like the dead. to get through the rest of the day.. i had trained over the winter well ( for me, a bit of gym work and fitness) and changed jobs just as the season started , and it went downhill pretty quick, to the point where i went to one race, did 3 laps of practice and was spent... turned out the Lab i worked in had Aircon that was screwed, i ran the forklift into it and it was down for a week, i felt better after 3 days and in the 9 days from when i 'fixed it' to when they 'fixed it' , i was back to good, by the wednesday of the next week i was back to how i was, 2 weeks later i quit.

All these guys living in fully airconditioned places in Florida Etc are not helping themselves IMO, air quality is a major contributor to so many things,

philG wrote:

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days. No other sport...

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days.

No other sport even comes close .

I also think the lack of recovery time between races for the AMA guys is a factor, having all the races back to back, means you cant get stuff properly into the body and get it absorbed between races, in MXGP they have an extra hour , and i think thats a major consideration,

To expect these guys to stay at a top level for a season that runs every weekend pretty much , is asking for trouble.

When you look at Oylmpic athletes , they race so little is untrue , they train all year for one or two major events, with a smattering of others thrown in, You dont see Usain Bolt racing every saturday afternoon.

The only schedule that comes close is Soccer, here in europe, i know baseball play 8 million games a year , but pretty sure. sitting on your arse for most of it doesnt take a lot of effort... same for NFL. although the NFL season is 16 games, those boys know how to milk it.

And then you have the travel, exposed to all sorts of shit air on planes.

i had a virus years ago, literally wiped me out, used to come home from work, and have to sleep for an hour, like the dead. to get through the rest of the day.. i had trained over the winter well ( for me, a bit of gym work and fitness) and changed jobs just as the season started , and it went downhill pretty quick, to the point where i went to one race, did 3 laps of practice and was spent... turned out the Lab i worked in had Aircon that was screwed, i ran the forklift into it and it was down for a week, i felt better after 3 days and in the 9 days from when i 'fixed it' to when they 'fixed it' , i was back to good, by the wednesday of the next week i was back to how i was, 2 weeks later i quit.

All these guys living in fully airconditioned places in Florida Etc are not helping themselves IMO, air quality is a major contributor to so many things,

agn5009 wrote:

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes...

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes on. My personal opinion is this is the greatest sport on earth. However I don’t get blinded by that and say it’s the most physically demanding sport just because it’s my favorite. I’m in pretty decent shape. I could absolutely positively get myself through a professional mx race. Will I be tired? Sure. Will I be able to go 100% the entire time? Probably not. Do you know what I absolutely could not will myself through? A marathon. There’s a 0% chance I’m making it.

I agree with everything else you’ve said though.

philG wrote:

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days. No other sport...

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days.

No other sport even comes close .

I also think the lack of recovery time between races for the AMA guys is a factor, having all the races back to back, means you cant get stuff properly into the body and get it absorbed between races, in MXGP they have an extra hour , and i think thats a major consideration,

To expect these guys to stay at a top level for a season that runs every weekend pretty much , is asking for trouble.

When you look at Oylmpic athletes , they race so little is untrue , they train all year for one or two major events, with a smattering of others thrown in, You dont see Usain Bolt racing every saturday afternoon.

The only schedule that comes close is Soccer, here in europe, i know baseball play 8 million games a year , but pretty sure. sitting on your arse for most of it doesnt take a lot of effort... same for NFL. although the NFL season is 16 games, those boys know how to milk it.

And then you have the travel, exposed to all sorts of shit air on planes.

i had a virus years ago, literally wiped me out, used to come home from work, and have to sleep for an hour, like the dead. to get through the rest of the day.. i had trained over the winter well ( for me, a bit of gym work and fitness) and changed jobs just as the season started , and it went downhill pretty quick, to the point where i went to one race, did 3 laps of practice and was spent... turned out the Lab i worked in had Aircon that was screwed, i ran the forklift into it and it was down for a week, i felt better after 3 days and in the 9 days from when i 'fixed it' to when they 'fixed it' , i was back to good, by the wednesday of the next week i was back to how i was, 2 weeks later i quit.

All these guys living in fully airconditioned places in Florida Etc are not helping themselves IMO, air quality is a major contributor to so many things,

agn5009 wrote:

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes...

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes on. My personal opinion is this is the greatest sport on earth. However I don’t get blinded by that and say it’s the most physically demanding sport just because it’s my favorite. I’m in pretty decent shape. I could absolutely positively get myself through a professional mx race. Will I be tired? Sure. Will I be able to go 100% the entire time? Probably not. Do you know what I absolutely could not will myself through? A marathon. There’s a 0% chance I’m making it.

I agree with everything else you’ve said though.

philG wrote:

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days. No other sport...

I think that its a result of the level of fitness and training required to be a top line MX rider these days.

No other sport even comes close .

I also think the lack of recovery time between races for the AMA guys is a factor, having all the races back to back, means you cant get stuff properly into the body and get it absorbed between races, in MXGP they have an extra hour , and i think thats a major consideration,

To expect these guys to stay at a top level for a season that runs every weekend pretty much , is asking for trouble.

When you look at Oylmpic athletes , they race so little is untrue , they train all year for one or two major events, with a smattering of others thrown in, You dont see Usain Bolt racing every saturday afternoon.

The only schedule that comes close is Soccer, here in europe, i know baseball play 8 million games a year , but pretty sure. sitting on your arse for most of it doesnt take a lot of effort... same for NFL. although the NFL season is 16 games, those boys know how to milk it.

And then you have the travel, exposed to all sorts of shit air on planes.

i had a virus years ago, literally wiped me out, used to come home from work, and have to sleep for an hour, like the dead. to get through the rest of the day.. i had trained over the winter well ( for me, a bit of gym work and fitness) and changed jobs just as the season started , and it went downhill pretty quick, to the point where i went to one race, did 3 laps of practice and was spent... turned out the Lab i worked in had Aircon that was screwed, i ran the forklift into it and it was down for a week, i felt better after 3 days and in the 9 days from when i 'fixed it' to when they 'fixed it' , i was back to good, by the wednesday of the next week i was back to how i was, 2 weeks later i quit.

All these guys living in fully airconditioned places in Florida Etc are not helping themselves IMO, air quality is a major contributor to so many things,

agn5009 wrote:

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes...

No other sport comes close? That’s complete nonsense. Lots of sports are equally as physically demanding. Bicycling, boxing, swimming, soccer, marathon running and the list goes on. My personal opinion is this is the greatest sport on earth. However I don’t get blinded by that and say it’s the most physically demanding sport just because it’s my favorite. I’m in pretty decent shape. I could absolutely positively get myself through a professional mx race. Will I be tired? Sure. Will I be able to go 100% the entire time? Probably not. Do you know what I absolutely could not will myself through? A marathon. There’s a 0% chance I’m making it.

I agree with everything else you’ve said though.

geeZ177 wrote:

Bring back the 90's. More parties and less training. In all seriousness though, the emphasis on training is definitely over the top. No way would I...

Bring back the 90's. More parties and less training. In all seriousness though, the emphasis on training is definitely over the top. No way would I want to be a pro racer in this era, due to it's less about riding a dirt bike and more about physical training.

rsd47 wrote:

Overtraining and almost no off-season

Log Hopper wrote:

Just read the Blake story on Racer X https://racerxonline.com/2019/07/26/blake-baggett-dealing-with-unknown-virus-will-sit-out-washougal Vitards know all about the top riders but everyone else I know talk about other sports and...

Just read the Blake story on Racer X https://racerxonline.com/2019/07/26/blake-baggett-dealing-with-unknown-…
Vitards know all about the top riders but everyone else I know talk about other sports and I dont hear about all these sicknesses. So what's up? Everyone here talks about eating dirt, overworked, diets, track snacks, metal body parts, humidty, etc. Us fans and these badasses are getting screwed. My experience says not many major problems have a single solution. Maybe the 80s and 90s badasses didn't talk about it? Not enough alcohol to kill the bugs? Not enough public schooling? "Excuse" for other problems? Do Europeans have same issues?

Log Hopper wrote:

Just read the Blake story on Racer X https://racerxonline.com/2019/07/26/blake-baggett-dealing-with-unknown-virus-will-sit-out-washougal Vitards know all about the top riders but everyone else I know talk about other sports and...

Just read the Blake story on Racer X https://racerxonline.com/2019/07/26/blake-baggett-dealing-with-unknown-…
Vitards know all about the top riders but everyone else I know talk about other sports and I dont hear about all these sicknesses. So what's up? Everyone here talks about eating dirt, overworked, diets, track snacks, metal body parts, humidty, etc. Us fans and these badasses are getting screwed. My experience says not many major problems have a single solution. Maybe the 80s and 90s badasses didn't talk about it? Not enough alcohol to kill the bugs? Not enough public schooling? "Excuse" for other problems? Do Europeans have same issues?

BobbyM wrote:

I blame it on pussy and weed...same as it ever was...same as it ever was.

FU2 wrote:

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here...

Europeans don't have those issues. Well our food isn't that genetically modified food. The poison what your guys putting into your food or whatever is here on the blacklist as poison. Sooner or later it pops up.

Or it's just the coke,booz and the women.

Maybe they should contact Deano to get some CBD.

rsd47 wrote:

Overtraining and almost no off-season

SWOHIO GUY wrote:

Do you believe more emphasis should be placed on rest and recovery rather than training yourself into oblivion?

rsd47 wrote:

Overtraining and almost no off-season

SWOHIO GUY wrote:

Do you believe more emphasis should be placed on rest and recovery rather than training yourself into oblivion?

KHI Guy wrote:

I've been wondering if they have reached the point of diminishing returns on their training and fitness regiments? There is so much discussion on how science...

I've been wondering if they have reached the point of diminishing returns on their training and fitness regiments? There is so much discussion on how science an technology has taken moto-fitness to a new level, but maybe that is a level that is either unnecessary or unsustainable? The human body can only do so much, and everyone's body is different.

People like to say that RC wasn't as talented as his competition, he just raised the training stakes to a new level. Personally, I think that is BS. He was that good on a bike, and had the appropriate fitness level to maintain his speed for the race. I can't remember him coming down with any mysterious illnesses.

People also like to say that the older generations of pro-riders didn't train; Since there was no "Baker Factory" in the '80s and 90's, that means that nobody trained back then. That is utter BS! Rick Johnson was in as good of shape as anyone, and Jeff Ward used to compete in triathlons for Christ's sake. These guys were in shape, they went about it differently (and maybe smarter) back then. There wasn't chronic Epstein-Barr going around either.

Also, I don't necessarily think it is correct to train to oblivion then blame the schedule. The schedule is what it is, they need to train to the schedule, not blame it. So yes, I personally think that they really need to be focusing on the proper recovery time and techniques.