Anderson mid air brake tap to save Sexton

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Edited Date/Time 3/11/2022 11:27am
I thought this deserved it's own thread. Split second decision, could have been really ugly, Anderson is unreal.


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Moto520 2/20/2022 5:33pm
2/20/2022 5:33pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2022 5:34pm
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises the rear end…..it drops the front. I’m glad he didn’t get hit
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vitalriderCrf 2/20/2022 5:50pm
2/20/2022 5:50pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2022 5:51pm
Moto520 wrote:
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises...
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises the rear end…..it drops the front. I’m glad he didn’t get hit
I think that was the point. He raised the rear end so his rear wheel didn't clip Sexton.
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LoudLove 2/20/2022 6:16pm
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One ten-thousandths of a second? More like two-tenths. Still quick, but 2000 times longer than the Instagram post’s estimate.
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abomination 2/20/2022 7:03pm
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Moto520 wrote:
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises...
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises the rear end…..it drops the front. I’m glad he didn’t get hit
vitalriderCrf wrote:
I think that was the point. He raised the rear end so his rear wheel didn't clip Sexton.
reading comprehension 😩
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mirramaxx 2/20/2022 7:36pm
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Kids and I watched it and we did the RC style WOOOOOW! What a move, it could have gone so bad.
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TrailMaker 2/20/2022 8:02pm
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LoudLove wrote:
One ten-thousandths of a second? More like two-tenths. Still quick, but 2000 times longer than the Instagram post’s estimate.
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS.

The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or reflex reactions (such as when a doctor thumps your knee with that little rubber hammer) are much faster, around 0.08 s because the signal doesn't have to go via the brain.

.0001 s...LOL that is funny. And stupid.
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Jake_CR250R 2/20/2022 8:05pm
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TrailMaker wrote:
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS. The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or...
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS.

The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or reflex reactions (such as when a doctor thumps your knee with that little rubber hammer) are much faster, around 0.08 s because the signal doesn't have to go via the brain.

.0001 s...LOL that is funny. And stupid.
I bet you’re fun at parties..
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vitalriderCrf 2/20/2022 8:33pm
2/20/2022 8:33pm
Moto520 wrote:
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises...
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises the rear end…..it drops the front. I’m glad he didn’t get hit
vitalriderCrf wrote:
I think that was the point. He raised the rear end so his rear wheel didn't clip Sexton.
abomination wrote:
reading comprehension 😩
What? Is my excessive use of "rear" incorrect grammar? Do we need to get Falcon in here?
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[YM] 2/20/2022 8:56pm
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Great heads up riding by Anderson! Why can't Sexton move his arm?
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LoudLove wrote:
One ten-thousandths of a second? More like two-tenths. Still quick, but 2000 times longer than the Instagram post’s estimate.
TrailMaker wrote:
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS. The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or...
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS.

The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or reflex reactions (such as when a doctor thumps your knee with that little rubber hammer) are much faster, around 0.08 s because the signal doesn't have to go via the brain.

.0001 s...LOL that is funny. And stupid.
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Ace Dudemeister 2/20/2022 9:08pm
2/20/2022 9:08pm
I think you can see Anderson making a dedicated effort to go as high as he could to avoid Sexton. Anderson’s performance is the exact opposite of when Webb accelerated off of Cianciarulo’s body when he went down in front of Webb in some whoops. Webb appeared to open the throttle on top of Cianciarulo.
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OrangeJuice158 2/20/2022 9:19pm
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Moto520 wrote:
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises...
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises the rear end…..it drops the front. I’m glad he didn’t get hit
Torque is applied about the CG, which will raise the back and lower the front in the case of a factory Kawasaki
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Roczoff 2/20/2022 9:25pm
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It was really close. Look at where Anderson's rear wheel touches down, what, 3 feet beyond Sexton? And Sexton's back is probably close to 2 feet off the ground...
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captmoto 2/20/2022 9:58pm
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Seeing that now I wonder if Anderson thought he hit him the way was he kept looking back for the rest of the last lap.
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fullfloater 2/21/2022 1:12am
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TrailMaker wrote:
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS. The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or...
It is a crack up when people down-vote FACTS.

The fastest possible conscious human reactions are around 0.15 s, but most are around 0.20-0.30s. Unconscious, or reflex reactions (such as when a doctor thumps your knee with that little rubber hammer) are much faster, around 0.08 s because the signal doesn't have to go via the brain.

.0001 s...LOL that is funny. And stupid.
Jake_CR250R wrote:
I bet you’re fun at parties..
Still waiting for an invite.

I thought he might have just done it every lap but he definitely didn't here. Jumped low too.


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scott_nz 2/21/2022 1:15am
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That was usually a step on, 21 jumped way further than that. So I guess he saw 23 down and decided to clear him ,
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Riesenberg448 2/21/2022 1:28am
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It was very obvious live that JA didn't see him (kinda surprisingly honestly) until the last second and he grabbed a ton of throttle and did an X Games step up the best he could. It all happens fast and I was about to puke thinking the worst about went down... but it didn't and Chase avoided worse impact and Jason went onto the checkers.

I do have questions about the events following to divert the risk and keep the racing safe and fair, but that's another topic for the governing bodies to look at.
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eins4eins 2/21/2022 1:28am
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Good thing he didn't hit Sexton, but i wonder why he even jumped the double. Must have seen the crash in peripherical vision and there was a bike behind the lip. Sexton could have popped up anywhere.
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CPan 2/21/2022 5:20am
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eins4eins wrote:
Good thing he didn't hit Sexton, but i wonder why he even jumped the double. Must have seen the crash in peripherical vision and there was...
Good thing he didn't hit Sexton, but i wonder why he even jumped the double. Must have seen the crash in peripherical vision and there was a bike behind the lip. Sexton could have popped up anywhere.
I assume he saw the bike but didn’t have enough time to know if it was Sexton or a lapper. He wasn’t that far back with a lap to go, I’d have stayed on the throttle too.
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Falcon 2/21/2022 9:20am
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vitalriderCrf wrote:
I think that was the point. He raised the rear end so his rear wheel didn't clip Sexton.
abomination wrote:
reading comprehension 😩
vitalriderCrf wrote:
What? Is my excessive use of "rear" incorrect grammar? Do we need to get Falcon in here?
Moto520's point was that the front wheel drops when applying rear brake in the air. The bike pivots about the rear axle when this happens; not at the footpegs or front axle. Therefore, it does nothing to raise the rear wheel and would thus not assist in saving Chase from a rear tire impact.

I think the physics are probably more complicated than that. It's probably more likely that the rotational energy goes into the entire motorcycle and the whole thing rotates about its center of gravity while in the air. This would, in fact, raise the rear wheel somewhat.
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TeamGreen 2/21/2022 10:04am
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Riesenberg448 wrote:
It was very obvious live that JA didn't see him (kinda surprisingly honestly) until the last second and he grabbed a ton of throttle and did...
It was very obvious live that JA didn't see him (kinda surprisingly honestly) until the last second and he grabbed a ton of throttle and did an X Games step up the best he could. It all happens fast and I was about to puke thinking the worst about went down... but it didn't and Chase avoided worse impact and Jason went onto the checkers.

I do have questions about the events following to divert the risk and keep the racing safe and fair, but that's another topic for the governing bodies to look at.
I'm sorry, but your Internet Hall-Pass has been revoked.

Your posts make too much sense and contain far too much usable information.

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PFitzG38 2/23/2022 8:28am
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I don’t get it.
brake tapping lowers the bike not raise it, also when you brake tap it’s stops your rear wheel I didn’t even see a brake tap. He just jumped over chase. No big deal EDIT: if he changed up his rhythm to jump chase instead of land on him that would be impressive
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PFitzG38 2/23/2022 8:33am
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Moto520 wrote:
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises...
I don’t think it was as close as it looked…..we will hear about it as the week goes on. I don’t think the brake tap raises the rear end…..it drops the front. I’m glad he didn’t get hit
vitalriderCrf wrote:
I think that was the point. He raised the rear end so his rear wheel didn't clip Sexton.
Pay attention Vital, or do you not get it
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45ACP 2/23/2022 8:54am
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Either way, he made an obvious effort to clear Sexton and if you watch in slow mo it looks like he barely missed him.
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OrangeJuice158 2/23/2022 9:01am
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PFitzG38 wrote:
I don’t get it. brake tapping lowers the bike not raise it, also when you brake tap it’s stops your rear wheel I didn’t even see...
I don’t get it.
brake tapping lowers the bike not raise it, also when you brake tap it’s stops your rear wheel I didn’t even see a brake tap. He just jumped over chase. No big deal EDIT: if he changed up his rhythm to jump chase instead of land on him that would be impressive
It raises the back and lowers the front. Torque is applied about the CG.
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PFitzG38 2/23/2022 9:18am
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PFitzG38 wrote:
I don’t get it. brake tapping lowers the bike not raise it, also when you brake tap it’s stops your rear wheel I didn’t even see...
I don’t get it.
brake tapping lowers the bike not raise it, also when you brake tap it’s stops your rear wheel I didn’t even see a brake tap. He just jumped over chase. No big deal EDIT: if he changed up his rhythm to jump chase instead of land on him that would be impressive
OrangeJuice158 wrote:
It raises the back and lowers the front. Torque is applied about the CG.
Ya think? I don’t know about the physics of that, and feel it can’t be properly discussed without TFS’s input - miss that guy. RIP
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theToothPerry 2/23/2022 9:21am
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Some of the dudes on Vital have never tapped the rear brake in the air and it shows lol. Amazing work by JA.
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OrangeJuice158 2/23/2022 9:30am
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PFitzG38 wrote:
Ya think? I don’t know about the physics of that, and feel it can’t be properly discussed without TFS’s input - miss that guy. RIP
I model spacecraft dynamics to pay for racing, this is actually really similar because spacecraft actually spin wheels up and down to control their attitude.
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