American in MXGP

Forty
Profile picture for user Forty
Posts
2807
Joined
7/27/2009
Location
Saint Paul, MN US
Forty
Edited Date/Time 10/5/2021 11:57am
Why is it we don’t have a US born racer competing in the MXGP?
|
cablecable 10/3/2021 8:54pm
10/3/2021 8:54pm
because there series sucks compared to America, the list is long of GP riders crossing the pond, and very small going away
1
38
PNWRider
Profile picture for user PNWRider
Posts
476
Joined
1/31/2021
Location
Stanwood, WA US
PNWRider 10/3/2021 9:08pm
10/3/2021 9:08pm
cablecable wrote:
because there series sucks compared to America, the list is long of GP riders crossing the pond, and very small going away
If their series sucks so bad, how come they have consistently mopped the floor with us in anything other than stupidcross?
29
9

The Shop

See All »
ML512
Profile picture for user ML512
Posts
15464
Joined
12/28/2008
Location
Wildomar, CA US
Fantasy
54th
ML512 10/3/2021 9:13pm
10/3/2021 9:13pm
And the responses so far are not surprising but still make me shake my head…
21
1
MKMX
Profile picture for user MKMX
Posts
405
Joined
3/3/2021
Location
Western Australia, WA AU
MKMX 10/3/2021 9:33pm
10/3/2021 9:33pm
As a bit of a shot in the dark, I would think it has something to do with supercross being preferred over motocross (given that SX only is becoming quite popular) and the fact it overlaps with the MXGP season makes an attempt to race the GP’s pointless as they wouldn’t have a solid run at the title. Also, they simply just might not want to.
dkurtd
Profile picture for user dkurtd
Posts
904
Joined
4/15/2018
Location
TN US
dkurtd 10/3/2021 10:10pm
10/3/2021 10:10pm Edited Date/Time 10/3/2021 10:27pm
For the most part, any American rider who could go over and compete (and win) in MXGP are on factory rides here in the US. They make more money as a factory rider here living at home, sleeping in their own bed. So to them, what's the incentive to go live in a foreign country and race? Most of the Americans that have went across the pond have had minimal success, except for Moore, Parker, Lackey, and Schmit.

I hate to say this but in the 70's and 80's a World Championship meant something to American racers, not so much anymore. Don't believe me go read some of Brad Lackey's stories about racing for CZ and living in Eastern-Block countries while trying to become a World Champion.
5
4
109
Profile picture for user 109
Posts
452
Joined
4/2/2012
Location
Murrieta, CA US
109 10/3/2021 10:20pm
10/3/2021 10:20pm
There’s no benefit to a factory mxgp team to bring a top American over. He’d need top money and struggle to break the top 5.

There’s no benefit to a top American going to race in Europe. Their value is high here and will only go one way after racing Jeffrey and Tim.

So that leaves 2nd rate Americans with no options here, Jordan Smith or Brandon Hartranft but reality is they would struggle to be top 20 and they can make more money racing Supercross only as privateers.

The final option is a close to retiring top rider. RV in 2015. Most likely if them to go for it is Barcia, he’s got in laws in England, obviously GasGas likes him and Gabrielle at Alpinestars is a fan. But it won’t be a 2012-13 Barcia.

Let’s be honest, no American in 2021 wanted to win a Moto as bad as Herlings and Prado did today.



16
19
Moto520
Profile picture for user Moto520
Posts
3388
Joined
2/4/2013
Location
Schaumburg, IL US
Moto520 10/4/2021 8:18am
10/4/2021 8:18am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2021 8:19am
Are they still not paying a purse out in MXGP? American riders race for a purse no matter how small it is. We have contingency money all over the place. Why aren't more of the riders in Europe coming to America is my question.
1
6
Kyle978
Profile picture for user Kyle978
Posts
1301
Joined
10/7/2013
Location
Steers & Queers, TX US
Kyle978 10/4/2021 8:20am
10/4/2021 8:20am
Because the girls are too classy.
7
SCC
Profile picture for user SCC
Posts
387
Joined
10/16/2019
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
SCC 10/4/2021 8:35am
10/4/2021 8:35am
Its the same in F1. Zero american drivers for decades.
2
ATKpilot99
Profile picture for user ATKpilot99
Posts
9821
Joined
4/13/2010
Location
Lake Geneva, WI US
ATKpilot99 10/4/2021 8:36am
10/4/2021 8:36am
Moto520 wrote:
Are they still not paying a purse out in MXGP? American riders race for a purse no matter how small it is. We have contingency money...
Are they still not paying a purse out in MXGP? American riders race for a purse no matter how small it is. We have contingency money all over the place. Why aren't more of the riders in Europe coming to America is my question.
The only reason they'd come here now is if they wanted to go for the SX title. Or for one of the same reasons American riders would go to Europe at one time . Because they can't find a good ride . Anstie was in that situation. My how the tables have turned .
2
gt80rider
Profile picture for user gt80rider
Posts
6275
Joined
4/19/2008
Location
Boulder, CO US
gt80rider 10/4/2021 8:46am
10/4/2021 8:46am
PNWRider wrote:
If their series sucks so bad, how come they have consistently mopped the floor with us in anything other than stupidcross?
Would you want to race on them? That's why they suck... less money, a few good tracks, but mostly a bunch of terrible ones, and less than American living conditions in many places, ya.... i can see why our guys only race over there when they have to........
15
Brent
Profile picture for user Brent
Posts
5308
Joined
8/16/2006
Location
Party in Temecula, CA US
Brent 10/4/2021 8:50am
10/4/2021 8:50am Edited Date/Time 10/4/2021 9:33am
There is no money for the riders in MXGP.

The only racers making anything past covering their expenses are about 11 guys on factory backed teams, the rest are hobbyists looking to become one of the 11 guys making money.

Thank Mr. Loungo for that.

One other thing I found interesting is that the AMA and MX Sports officials at the very highest level went out of their way to find My Dutch racer in the pits at the nationals, and stop by to say "hi" and see if there was anything we needed.

My guy was shocked and surprised that so many officials came to check on us, he told me in MXGP if you are not one of the top 3 they tell you to basically go fuck yourself if you needed anything.

So the differences between how InFront runs the races as opposed to the AMA/MX Sports (who paid out prize money IN CASH), is a little different too.
16
4
philG
Profile picture for user philG
Posts
9720
Joined
5/12/2012
Location
GB
philG 10/4/2021 9:22am
10/4/2021 9:22am
ML512 wrote:
And the responses so far are not surprising but still make me shake my head…
These days, thats the only exercise i get. .
2
1
jjavaman
Profile picture for user jjavaman
Posts
1318
Joined
3/12/2015
Location
CA
Fantasy
3765th
jjavaman 10/4/2021 9:28am
10/4/2021 9:28am
Forty wrote:
Why is it we don’t have a US born racer competing in the MXGP?
Fear
2
7

Pit Row

See All »
resetjet
Profile picture for user resetjet
Posts
2396
Joined
3/16/2012
Location
Tampa, FL US
resetjet 10/4/2021 9:38am
10/4/2021 9:38am
No pay, rough tracks, long travel, weird food, away from home.
5
Robgvx
Profile picture for user Robgvx
Posts
3688
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
GB
Robgvx 10/4/2021 9:48am
10/4/2021 9:48am
I think Villopoto killed any future American aspirations of an easy ride in the GPs.
9
5
murph783
Profile picture for user murph783
Posts
1361
Joined
3/2/2011
Location
CT US
murph783 10/4/2021 9:51am
10/4/2021 9:51am
ML512 wrote:
And the responses so far are not surprising but still make me shake my head…
Aren’t you glad you’re back?
1
Steve125
Profile picture for user Steve125
Posts
1354
Joined
11/24/2010
Location
CT US
Fantasy
2787th
Steve125 10/4/2021 10:04am
10/4/2021 10:04am
What ever happened to Covington?
2
early
Profile picture for user early
Posts
8289
Joined
2/13/2013
Location
University Heights, OH US
Fantasy
2231st
early 10/4/2021 10:36am
10/4/2021 10:36am
Robgvx wrote:
I think Villopoto killed any future American aspirations of an easy ride in the GPs.
Villopoto hurt the chances of a top American racing the GPS, but Herlings in Indiana was the nail in the coffin.
12
2
biglad
Profile picture for user biglad
Posts
115
Joined
6/6/2021
Location
Temecula bro, CA US
biglad 10/4/2021 10:43am
10/4/2021 10:43am
Steve125 wrote:
What ever happened to Covington?
I think his career went down the pan when he faded from 1st to outside the top ten in an sx LCQ race...
biglad
Profile picture for user biglad
Posts
115
Joined
6/6/2021
Location
Temecula bro, CA US
biglad 10/4/2021 10:45am
10/4/2021 10:45am
Why would any top American go there. Supercross is the worlds biggest series with the most eyes and money on it. And what is attractive about racing in russia and Asia on sub par tracks with half a line up of riders.
5
10
GForce MMG 10/4/2021 11:07am
10/4/2021 11:07am
resetjet wrote:
No pay, rough tracks, long travel, weird food, away from home.
The mxgp riders make a great living. Tracks are real motocross not pussycrross watered and ripped. Travel is less mileage than the usa riders. The food is far better, non processed and real. Travel the planet for free. Zero downsides. It comes down to them knowing they wont win so why try.
13
9
RG1
Profile picture for user RG1
Posts
4663
Joined
7/12/2015
Location
GB
RG1 10/4/2021 11:16am
10/4/2021 11:16am
It’s a huge adaptation to make both on and off the track. It’s very difficult to make that move and be successful, and its a pretty big risk, because its kind of out of sight, out of mind for all the teams in the US if it doesn’t pan out. We’ve seen a few guys come over recently, Covington, Sanayei, Harrison, Charbonneau. Covington had some success but in general it hasn’t really worked out
SCC
Profile picture for user SCC
Posts
387
Joined
10/16/2019
Location
Los Angeles, CA US
SCC 10/4/2021 11:40am
10/4/2021 11:40am
Americans believe the usa is the best country, most pay, best food, easiest life, hottest women etc. It’s not the 1970’s anymore. Every country offers freedom of choice and travel. Far more healthy food than the usa food supply. Non Instagram sluts. Real natural mx tracks. The mxgp series has been more competitive than the us nationals this year and more entertaining to watch. As much as I love the us nationals I would prefer 1 world SX series and 1 world MX series.
7
10
ATKpilot99
Profile picture for user ATKpilot99
Posts
9821
Joined
4/13/2010
Location
Lake Geneva, WI US
ATKpilot99 10/4/2021 12:15pm
10/4/2021 12:15pm
RG1 wrote:
It’s a huge adaptation to make both on and off the track. It’s very difficult to make that move and be successful, and its a pretty...
It’s a huge adaptation to make both on and off the track. It’s very difficult to make that move and be successful, and its a pretty big risk, because its kind of out of sight, out of mind for all the teams in the US if it doesn’t pan out. We’ve seen a few guys come over recently, Covington, Sanayei, Harrison, Charbonneau. Covington had some success but in general it hasn’t really worked out
Covington is a head scratcher. He showed blazing speed at times in MX2 and while it's doubtful he would have seriously contended for a title in MXGP he certainly should have made a better showing than he did had he not left to try SX . Or maybe getting married affected him . Whatever the case he wasn't the same rider.

Post a reply to: American in MXGP