Alta hole shot Mammoth 60+ class

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6/19/2018 9:24 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/19/2018 10:27 AM

Steve Rawson brought the Alta up to Mammoth to contest the inaugural 60+ class. He pulled the hole shot in the first moto then they red flagged the race so they lined them back up and he did it again. Great weekend with good friends
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6/19/2018 9:38 AM

no facebook, cant see it...

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6/19/2018 9:54 AM

Linky no worky.

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6/19/2018 9:56 AM

Get used to it. The MXR's run like a 350 you know wink

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6/19/2018 10:10 AM

As soon as I saw Steve was racing I figured he had to be on the Alta. What a bike to race up there though. No power loss compared to everyone else. Good thinking Steve!

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6/19/2018 10:28 AM

I'll figure out this whole internet thing eventually try the new link

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6/19/2018 10:41 AM

Alta: the silent assassin. cool

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6/19/2018 1:06 PM

Guessing it ran just fine at altitude. cool

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6/19/2018 2:12 PM

Look pretty fast to me, for 60 year-olds!

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6/19/2018 2:13 PM

The MX and MXR are serious weapons at altitude since they are not effected by the lack of oxygen.

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6/19/2018 2:56 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/19/2018 2:58 PM

I used some High Altitude Electricity for the altitude and race fuel in the generator. ?work just great ? ran the same as at sea level.

Could of used some for the body.

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6/19/2018 2:58 PM

Fog 25 wrote:

I used some High Altitude Electricity for the altitude and race fuel in the generator. ?work just great ? ran the same as at sea level.

Could of used some for the body.

Fog for the Win!

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/19/2018 3:16 PM

We had a rider who races an ALTA pull a hole shot as well at our HS. Dead engine starts are a dream for those quiet buzzing things. smile


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6/19/2018 3:43 PM

wardy wrote:

We had a rider who races an ALTA pull a hole shot as well at our HS. Dead engine starts are a dream for those quiet buzzing things. smile


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Thats just not fair!

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6/19/2018 3:47 PM

wardy wrote:

We had a rider who races an ALTA pull a hole shot as well at our HS. Dead engine starts are a dream for those quiet buzzing things. smile


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Hadn't thought about that. That's messed up. Haha.

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6/19/2018 4:38 PM

That guy is a cheater.

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6/19/2018 4:42 PM

Steve Rawson on the Alta hole shots the 60+ class

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6/19/2018 5:25 PM

wardy wrote:

We had a rider who races an ALTA pull a hole shot as well at our HS. Dead engine starts are a dream for those quiet buzzing things. smile


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kage173 wrote:

Hadn't thought about that. That's messed up. Haha.

On a dusty day in a Scrambles, the start is everything. Just holeshot and drag your feet devil

They may have to go to live engine starts..

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/19/2018 10:04 PM

Spizzy is in here from time to time, I will direct him to defend himself. but just so you all know, he made it 1:20 into a 1:30 hour race. I wish i could follow up with him on the "trailer of shame" haul back to the pits......................but i was busy and dind't know til later.

smile

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6/19/2018 10:59 PM

wardy wrote:

We had a rider who races an ALTA pull a hole shot as well at our HS. Dead engine starts are a dream for those quiet buzzing things. smile


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#displacement rule wink

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6/19/2018 11:18 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/19/2018 11:22 PM

shocking. this is so surprising that an electric motor that does not rely on air and fuel to make power holeshots on an uphill start at high elevation or that it can be turned on and started much faster than anyone on a gas engine bike that requires it be turned over

this is why it has no place against combustion engines.

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6/19/2018 11:28 PM

Phillip_Lamb wrote:

shocking. this is so surprising that an electric motor that does not rely on air and fuel to make power holeshots on an uphill start at high elevation or that it can be turned on and started much faster than anyone on a gas engine bike that requires it be turned over

this is why it has no place against combustion engines.

Get with the future

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6/20/2018 12:37 AM

i with it...in its own class

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6/20/2018 12:52 AM

Phillip_Lamb wrote:

i with it...in its own class

Unless you’re racing GNCC/HS I can’t see why this is an issue

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6/20/2018 2:49 AM

wardy wrote:

We had a rider who races an ALTA pull a hole shot as well at our HS. Dead engine starts are a dream for those quiet buzzing things. smile


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kage173 wrote:

Hadn't thought about that. That's messed up. Haha.

That's awesome!

Did he make the 3 hours though? How long was the race?

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6/20/2018 2:50 AM

wardy wrote:

Spizzy is in here from time to time, I will direct him to defend himself. but just so you all know, he made it 1:20 into a 1:30 hour race. I wish i could follow up with him on the "trailer of shame" haul back to the pits......................but i was busy and dind't know til later.

smile

Sorry didn't see. That's still pretty good! I guess slower woods riding at 1:20 is equivalent to a moto of battery usage?

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Cheers, Crush
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6/20/2018 6:00 AM

Phillip_Lamb wrote:

i with it...in its own class

That slippery slope has gotten us where we are talking about qualifying times and ride groups. I can see it now, DC and LL will have 6 e-bike classes added next year. A/B/C Pro/Vet 25/Vet30/Vet/40. Stop the madness. It's not fair!

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/20/2018 6:02 AM

wardy wrote:

Spizzy is in here from time to time, I will direct him to defend himself. but just so you all know, he made it 1:20 into a 1:30 hour race. I wish i could follow up with him on the "trailer of shame" haul back to the pits......................but i was busy and dind't know til later.

smile

Crush wrote:

Sorry didn't see. That's still pretty good! I guess slower woods riding at 1:20 is equivalent to a moto of battery usage?

We had a guy in TX win a Scrambles on one, finished at 1:19 and was out of e-juice. This seems to be the limit for that type of usage.

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2015 Beta 500 RS, history: 99 KTM 300, 87 CR250, 84 KLR 600, 82 GPZ 550, 81 KX 250, 80 KX 250, 79 Montesa 414 VE, 78 250 VB, 77 360 VB, 76 360 VA, 75 YZ 125, 74 TM 125, 72 TS 125, 60's West Bend Go Boy Kart

6/20/2018 6:12 AM

theycallmeebryan wrote:

The MX and MXR are serious weapons at altitude since they are not effected by the lack of oxygen.

No, the lack of oxygen presents no loss of power, however temp is a huge factor. You lose 20 degrees, you lose .01V per cell, and well, that adds up in a pack of that voltage.

Now, pre-warming of the cells via a hard charge, or even a hair dryer, will get the voltage back up, but the main point here is output voltage is greatly affected by temp, with the colder it is, the lower the output voltage.

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6/20/2018 6:53 AM

and Heat. it was 90* ++ last Saturday and it affected his ride again.

they (ALTA) have done some nice work but there is a long road to go.

I started racing on a 1975 Kx 125, today the bikes are so much better.

same thing will happen with electrics. and at a faster pace.

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