All new 2022 YZ450f?

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6/10/2021 7:24 AM

Any idea what changes are coming and when they will announce the bike?

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6/10/2021 10:25 AM

Same bike with a hydraulic clutch and new graphics...and a sugar free monster edition

I know nothing, but I don’t expect a ground up new bike

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6/10/2021 10:40 AM

They annouce bikes sometime in july. It will not be a new bike. Rumor thorugh the Yamaha walls is possible upgrades to the 2 stroke line? I guess when they showed the team the R7 they had the 2022 bikes on display.

I expect 3 more threads on this...

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6/10/2021 2:13 PM

Hopefully not. My 21 only has 10 hours on it and I don't want it to be outdated just yet

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6/10/2021 2:15 PM

chump6784 wrote:

Hopefully not. My 21 only has 10 hours on it and I don't want it to be outdated just yet

Only 10? Ive put 30 since beginning of March lol

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Gone:
2006 CRF230F
2008 KTM 200 XC
2017 KTM 250 SX
2019 CRF250R
Current: 2021 YZ250F

6/10/2021 2:33 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/10/2021 2:33 PM

motoXracer971 wrote:

Same bike with a hydraulic clutch and new graphics...and a sugar free monster edition

I know nothing, but I don’t expect a ...more

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

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6/10/2021 2:39 PM

Yamaha has been on a 4 year product cycle for decades. So with that in mind, if covid didn't disrupt that schedule (doubt it), then the 450 is scheduled to be all new for 2022

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6/10/2021 4:51 PM

I mean downvote me now but I have called things like this in the past. I don't want to lose my job but I'll reopen this thread in a month.

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6/10/2021 6:38 PM

skeef wrote:

I mean downvote me now but I have called things like this in the past. I don't want to lose my job but I'll reopen this thread ...more

regardless?

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6/10/2021 10:11 PM

motoXracer971 wrote:

Same bike with a hydraulic clutch and new graphics...and a sugar free monster edition

I know nothing, but I don’t expect a ...more

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi 🤷‍♂️

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6/11/2021 12:26 AM

chump6784 wrote:

Hopefully not. My 21 only has 10 hours on it and I don't want it to be outdated just yet

Leeham wrote:

Only 10? Ive put 30 since beginning of March lol

Yep, only been doing race days and I think 1 practice day since I got it. Took nearly a month off to recover from a racing injury too

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6/11/2021 5:44 AM

motoXracer971 wrote:

Same bike with a hydraulic clutch and new graphics...and a sugar free monster edition

I know nothing, but I don’t expect a ...more

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

Yeti831 wrote:

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi

Personally I'm fine with a cable, you get better feel and it lasts forever. Lube it a couple of times a year and the cable will last longer than I've ever had a bike. Hydraulic clutches are overrated, my brother thought his was cool until the slave cylinder failed.

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I work to provide for my family, I ride to keep my sanity.

6/11/2021 6:11 AM

motoXracer971 wrote:

Same bike with a hydraulic clutch and new graphics...and a sugar free monster edition

I know nothing, but I don’t expect a ...more

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

I agree. My 17 yz450 had the best clutch pull and feel of any bike I have owned.

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6/11/2021 6:16 AM

Is yamaha the most anticipated bike release next to Honda?

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

6/11/2021 6:29 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/11/2021 6:30 AM

motoXracer971 wrote:

Same bike with a hydraulic clutch and new graphics...and a sugar free monster edition

I know nothing, but I don’t expect a ...more

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

Yeti831 wrote:

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi

But the Honda clutch already absolutely sucked in the old model, and the Kawi has kinda sucked (durability wise) since it has been hydraulic.

The Yamaha, by contrast, is already pretty good.

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6/11/2021 8:02 AM

I hope they keep the changes simple so as not to obsolete my 2020! I'm starting to love the bike even with it's limitations (tight turns).

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6/11/2021 8:58 AM

Now that Star Racing has been winning and/or up front on the current platform, they could afford to BNG this model for another year or 2 and still sell plenty. I bet sales go up actually.

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6/11/2021 10:32 AM

What'd RV say on the Pulp show before the 2020 came out. "Don't fuck it up"

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I work to provide for my family, I ride to keep my sanity.

6/11/2021 12:22 PM

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

Yeti831 wrote:

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi

Timo wrote:

Personally I'm fine with a cable, you get better feel and it lasts forever. Lube it a couple of times a year and the cable ...more

I agree. I much prefer the feel of a cable over the numbness of a hydraulic.

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6/11/2021 12:28 PM

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

Yeti831 wrote:

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi

Timo wrote:

Personally I'm fine with a cable, you get better feel and it lasts forever. Lube it a couple of times a year and the cable ...more

Lasts forever? Clutch cables suck

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6/11/2021 12:32 PM

user760a wrote:

The Yamaha clutch is awesome. I hope Yamaha does not jump on the (useless, unnecessary) hydraulic clutch bandwagon

Yeti831 wrote:

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi

Dirty Points wrote:

But the Honda clutch already absolutely sucked in the old model, and the Kawi has kinda sucked (durability wise) since it has ...more

Yup and now the Honda clutch is awesome, go figure

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Current rides: 2020 CRF450RWE and 2019 TC300
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1000L

6/11/2021 1:43 PM

I have never liked the KTM hydraulic clutches(Haven't ridden a Honda or Kawi hydraulic clutch). The clutch on my 2018 just has no feel at all nor is it any easier to pull than my 2016 Yamaha was.

The only thing good about the KTM hydraulic clutch is that they last forever. Other than that I would take the Yamaha cable clutch any day. Way more feel, wide engagement window, and great level pull. Don't fix something that isn't broke IMO.

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Race Bike: 2018 KTM 350SXF

Other Bikes: 1985 CR80R, 1990 CR250R, 1998 PW80, Specialized Fuse Comp 29.

Sold: 2016 YZ250F, 2012 CRF250R

6/11/2021 1:47 PM

Yamaha clutch cable feel is so damn good. On my 19 Honda 250, that thing fucking sucked to pull in. Having to clutch that bike to life nearly every corner gave me arm pump. Defintely wanted a hyrdo on that bike. The Yamaha? Best Cable feel I have ever felt. I prefer it over the hyrdo on the KTMs. So YZ>KTM>Honda in terms of clutch feel

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Gone:
2006 CRF230F
2008 KTM 200 XC
2017 KTM 250 SX
2019 CRF250R
Current: 2021 YZ250F

6/11/2021 8:23 PM

Yeti831 wrote:

Worked out pretty well for Honda and Kawi

Timo wrote:

Personally I'm fine with a cable, you get better feel and it lasts forever. Lube it a couple of times a year and the cable ...more

vitalriderCrf wrote:

Lasts forever? Clutch cables suck

I have hundreds of hours on clutch cables with zero issues, what problems have you had?

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I work to provide for my family, I ride to keep my sanity.

6/12/2021 7:38 AM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Is yamaha the most anticipated bike release next to Honda?

No. I’d put Yamaha behind KTM/Husqvarna also for industry anticipation. For me personally though, it’s the most anticipated.

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

6/12/2021 8:30 AM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Is yamaha the most anticipated bike release next to Honda?

mattyhamz2 wrote:

No. I’d put Yamaha behind KTM/Husqvarna also for industry anticipation. For me personally though, it’s the most anticipated.

Idk man, there are three times as many threads on new Yamaha’s than the Austrian brands

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

6/12/2021 2:23 PM

One thing im missing from KTM bikes is clutch. Those lasted longer than I had my bikes and zero problems. With Yamaha second set of plates and cable needs to go when new plates coming again. Also had to put harder springs to get it working properly. Those who complain KTM hydro clutch havent never used those.

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6/12/2021 2:29 PM
Edited Date/Time: 6/12/2021 2:32 PM

I like the cable clutch way better on the Yamaha overall, currently riding a tc 250 and yz450f

This is my first ever hydraulic clutch, it feels like a light switch. There’s almost like a dead space feeling then just kinda dumps. That nice easy pull and durability is almost enough to win me over......almost

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6/12/2021 3:58 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Is yamaha the most anticipated bike release next to Honda?

mattyhamz2 wrote:

No. I’d put Yamaha behind KTM/Husqvarna also for industry anticipation. For me personally though, it’s the most anticipated.

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Idk man, there are three times as many threads on new Yamaha’s than the Austrian brands

That’s because of Yamaha’s 4 year cycle. Isn’t KTM due next year? I’d guess we will see twice as many KTM threads next year.

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2017 RMZ450
2005 YZ250-sold :,(
1998 YZ250
2005 KX250F

80% of the time it works every time
IG @2HRacing
Thanks to : Factory Effex, N2Dirt, Acerbis, DT1, Fasthouse, Matix, FMF, ASV, 100% & Mika Metals

6/12/2021 11:19 PM

tek14 wrote:

One thing im missing from KTM bikes is clutch. Those lasted longer than I had my bikes and zero problems. With Yamaha second ...more

My YZ has 60 hours on the stock clutch and cable, zero issues so far.

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I work to provide for my family, I ride to keep my sanity.