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I searched the forum and didnt see anything on this. But have you guys read Steve Matthes Observations on racerx today? He said that he thinks A-Mart is going to JGR Suzuki for next year. If he does how do you guys think he'll do? Hopefully Suzuki comes out with a new 250, cause hes going to go from one of the fastest 250fs to one that isnt quite on par with the competition.
It didn’t work in the big bike class where the motor doesn’t matter as much. In fact, most people would argue all they needed to do was update the engine and lose 10 pounds.
Geniuses.
The Shop
The problem for Suzuki is that they are able to get away with it with the 450. But not the 250. An updated chassi wont do anything for the RMZ 250.
Edit: Suzukis website says curb weight 112kg(247lbs) for both 17 and 18 450.
For perspective, both the YZ450F and CRF450R have lighter curb weight even with larger gas tanks and electric start (and in the case of the Honda a very heavy stock battery). The KX450F is 8lbs lighter (curb weight) and the Husky is 12 lbs lighter on the curb and almost 14 lbs lighter dry. The curb weight of the 450SX-F is a full 15lbs lighter than the RMZ450.
In addition all of these bikes make more horsepower than the Suzuki, have better brakes, better clutches and a better stock suspension.
Not looking good for the 2019 RMZ250.......
Pit Row
There are a ton of knowitalls in here...it amazes me that you guys dont engineer bikes yourselves
How is the clutch better?
And last time I checked nobody rides stick suspension.
The major discussion here though is the 250 and if you think that bike isnt extremely far behind, you can just look at results - or the lack of Suzukis on the track for the last couple of years.
Sure, this might not matter for 95% of all motocross riders out there but at top level, they are behind.
Do you really think there is no logical explanation to why there arent any Suzukis in the 250 class? If you take both US racing and MXGP, there is only the JGR team that runs the 250fs, and thats only because they have a contract with Suzuki to do so.
It is - bottom line - a worse platform to start out from, that pretty common knowledge. I´m honestly very impressed with how far JGR has managed to push it as it is. Just look on the lack of updates to the bike the last couple of years when you compare it to all the development and improvements the other manufacturers are putting in to their bike.
I´m well aware that I can never change your mind, since you seem very upset about it, so I´ll leave it here.
When was the last Suzuki 250 class holeshot? They've had some good starters on that bike, Nicoletti, Decotis, Hill have all pulled good starts on other bikes and in other classes, the engine is slow. The chassis is great but the engine isn't great on a pro level.
I say this not from personal experience but from as close to a credible source as you can get in this industry.
Wern't there rumors about Seewers bike being heavily modified(to the degree that it wouldn't be legal in US racing)?
Read this interview with Seewer. He turned down a deal with JGR because he didn't want to ride the RMZ 250.
https://mxvice.com/73085/viewpoint-jeremy-seewer-2
And how the hell did Lawrence do so well at the MXdN if his bike is that bad?
I´ve also heard rumors that Seewer got some serious attention and all the Suzuki resources on his bike and only late in the season did the others get some of those parts.
That said, he was very clear that he didnt wanna race any more RMZ250s since he felt he was at a disadvantage at pretty much every race. And racing in the US, where the same heavy bike modifications werent possible due to the production rule, was a straight up nono for him, no matter how good the deal was.
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