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If Baker's guys are working as hard as it sounds, then they are also putting in plenty of fuel. It's just different fuel than they would otherwise put into their bodies without his guidance.
Aldon trains his riders like cyclists (remember that's his origin) with a heavy mental/spiritual focus that just isn't some people's cup of tea. Aldon is not the kind of trainer that can work with everybody.
A cyclist training to push through a 50 mile climb is very relevant to motocross. I can't really think of any other form of training that would afford you that kind of conditioning. Making your muscles and cardiovascular system work at peak performance for a very long time is a very very hard thing to do, especially when you also have to deal with the mental demons). Aldon is particularly good at that science because that's the world he came from.
Running. Rowing. Riding (moto). Three Rs
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I keep reading remarks like this though and especially in light of KR 94 remarks about Aldon's program, it's somewhat topical.
As for comparing AUS MXD riders to pro AMA or GP riders...we have two MXD graduates doing well in the gps right now. Hunter Lawrence and Jed Beaton.
I see that you are in America...maybe you were one of those that thought Dean ferris stood no chance of a top 20 at the high point national..
Anyway...I've been flagging at a couple of big races lately and got to see some of our best riders up close .
Recently watched Kirk Gibbs win a Victoria title round...pursuing him very closely about a second and a half back until the late stages of the motos was Callum Norton, MXD rider...Gibbs just beat Ferris at the Shepparton national..although ferris did go down in the first Moto.
As for Callum Norton, he was soundly beaten by Cody Dyce first Moto ...it got my attention . When Dyce pulled up and removed his helmet to be interviewed..he looked fresh as a daisy.
So how far off the pace of Dean Ferris would both Cody Dyce and Callum Norton be?
I will see if I can find their lap times at the my laps site...
But the point is...there are some very fast and talented kids here at the moment that are likely to be very near the speed of Dean Ferris...So to wonder out loud as to how they might go at pro AMA or gp races isn't what I would call being a "troll"
I don't run around calling people trolls...even the person who made that ridiculous remark about Cody's appearance.
The point of the thread was here is this kid displaying blazing speed and race craft and he doesn't fit the mound of the super lean pro athlete.
So let me set your argument up here. Dean Ferris came over and had a single good moto. Some kid may have run a lap time similar to Dean's. So now this kid, who no one knows, would suddenly be competitive for wins in the Nationals? Give me a fucking break.
I just checked lap times for the Shep national.
Dean Ferris's best in the mx 1 first Moto was about 1.5 secs faster than Cody Dyce in his first MXD Moto., not bad, but would be a big gap by the end of 30 mins .second Moto comparisons blew out to around six seconds difference however.
The track was pretty nasty.
Plenty of people have had lots of constructive things to say, if you don't like the thread then don post.
I like motocross, you seem to like just bang nasty
At the end of the day though, he's a 16 year old kid who doesn't need to be on an Aldon like program just yet, if he was in the US he'd still be in the B class not racing in a "professional" series. Give it a couple years, let him grow into his body a bit and then he will know a bit more about where his deficiencies are. There's rush to ramp the training to that level when you're 16 and racing the junior class in Australia. Let him get overseas first before he starts the 10 year burnout process that everyone is talking about these days.
And no he is nowhere near Dean Ferris's speed yet, pretty much nobody in the country is at this point. But he may get there one day.
I know I've used this line before, but have you ever watched a marathon? The elite runners at the front of the pack look like someone promised them a sandwich at the finish line, and they're racing for it.
The diet required for that ain't for everyone. But you're talking about fueling a rocketship, not a barge.
I'll elaborate. At Red Bud Tomac was on the wrong line for the first 15 minutes of the 2nd moto. Once he got on the better line, he still kept going back onto the bad line
Yesterday he was on a bad line all day. If I went through all of this years outdoor footage I'm sure I could point out many more examples. His line choice sux.
2015. A smart racer, a racer with good race craft, only go as fast as they need to in order to win.
Tomac should have won muliple 250 and 450 championships by now. The reason the fastest rider in the paddock hasn't won the championships he should have? Bad race craft.
His riding is awesome, his racing, not so much.
Being fast is never enough and never has been. I've always promoted Chess as a great training tool. RC (The GOAT) agrees
An example of an American rider with good race craft would be, IMO, RJ Hampshire. He is a future champion. Osbourne is another good example, but he raced GP's so I'd expect that.. If I had to name a 450 rider I'd say Bagget.
MM's race craft got him the 1,1 result yesterday. He had it totally under control from the second the gates dropped in both motos.
I'm out...I seem to upset a lot of people so I will remove myself from the forum.
Going to be very busy with work and riding from now on anyway
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No disrespect to Cody Dyce either...he doesn't appear to be ripped and trained to the max ,but he sure rides fast and doesn't seem to slow at all towards the end of the Moto .
Also never said that he could just land in the USA or Europe and be a major contender either...just wondering how he might go if he just packed his bags and went..like Chad Reed Did.
My opinion is that riders with the talent should get out of OZ and head for the USA or Europe soon as they possibly can ,if it's their dream to do so...I believe that they would advance at a much faster rate than they would staying here and waiting to make it to the top here before trying overseas.
Anyway sorry to all..not gonna post anymore, hope I didn't offend anyone by saying I'm not gonna post anymore either
There is no such thing as a chubby professional athlete in modern sports like motocross - where the bar is raised on a consistent basis. If there is - he suffers at the end of every moto, every timookie
There is not a snowball's chance in hell you will be getting the same heartrates while cycling than you would while riding/racing motocross, plus the forces and stresses put on your body, muscle groups used are TOTALLY different from motocross.
I think short, highly technical mountainbike trails are a great tool, but the best thing BAR NONE I have found for in-season training has to be boxing. The unique combination of crazy intensity, balance, hand-eye coordination and split-second decision making is the closest thing you will find to motocross. Laugh all you want, but try it and you will see.
it's super micro managed but if you're looking for the final edge available when the top of the top are seperated by very little....
well you'd be hard pressed to argue that his method isn't working.
if they're burning massive numbers of calories then the claims from former clients that they don't eat enough doesn't make sense. Perhaps it's just the exclusion of certain food types that they're rebelling against.
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