Achilles Recovery

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8/6/2020 3:20 PM

I completely tore both Achilles 12 weeks ago coming up short on a triple. I had surgery on both and am now walking and doing PT. My questions are: 1) How long before you are able to ride again (trail or Moto)? 2) Is there any good ankle braces that can be worn in a boot? I was wearing Sidi SR2 when I tore them, but I also have a pair of SG12s.

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8/6/2020 4:33 PM

Sounds painful! Good luck on the recovery

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8/6/2020 4:48 PM

Holy shit I can't imagine completely tearing both achilles. I did something minor to my left one ten years ago playing b-ball and it still gets cranky every once in a while.

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8/6/2020 6:20 PM

Just tore my right. Back riding a bicycle outside in 3 months, mountain bike in 4 and Mx just behind that. I pushed it as hard as I could and was walking in a boot in 3 weeks and in a shoe without a lift in 6 so ymmv.

This brace was as good as I could find for actual Achilles stability and being somewhat low profile
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TZTO0TO/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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8/6/2020 6:51 PM

Look for ankle saver pegs on google. I would not count on boots to fully protect you in and over jumped triple scenario. FWIW, I don't do triples.

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The older I get, the faster I was.

8/6/2020 7:21 PM

I tore mine in 15 casing a triple in brand new sg-12. Took about 9 months after surgery to ride trails and about a year before I was fully cleared for moto, mine snapped and rolled up into my calf. When I got back on my bike I realized one calf was bigger than the other and my balance was off. I also lost a lot in range of motion making shifting while shifting, tore the left one only, very hard. Sometimes I have to lift my entire leg unless I sit further back. To this day I still work on lower leg exercises and a lot of strenching to get back strength and balance. I did pt for about a year before bc/bs decided I've had enough. Lol. As far as boots I now wear tech 10s.

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8/6/2020 7:57 PM

Ruptured my right playing basketball in my mid 30s. Wasn't into moto then but I believe it was about 6 months before I was walking without pain and swelling. Those things take awhile to heal. Just do your pt and be your own gauge. I would follow previous mentioned advice and add ankle savers when you start riding again and wear premium boots.

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8/6/2020 9:57 PM

I tore my right one in half coming up short on a triple, had surgery Aug 5 last year.
After 3 months I was walking very gingerly, after 6 months they released me for most everything. I still really took it easy, only recently getting back on the bike with even a hint of aggression. Still don't have the full range of motion, but it suffices. For reference I'll be 50 in a week.

I was wearing SG10 boots at the time, and I'll be picking up some SIDI Atojo boots soon, as they have stops to help prevent hyper extension in both dorsi and plantar directions. Can't decide if I want the ankle saver pegs.

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8/6/2020 11:52 PM

Nutter613 wrote:

I completely tore both Achilles 12 weeks ago coming up short on a triple. I had surgery on both and am now walking and doing PT. My questions are: 1) How long before you are able to ride again (trail or Moto)? 2) Is there any good ankle braces that can be worn in a boot? I was wearing Sidi SR2 when I tore them, but I also have a pair of SG12s.

Hey Nutter. Have a bit of experience here. I'm a physio and a Moto rider. Also do injury updates on my Instagram if you want to see recovery timeframes for some injuries from the pro level. @always.moto

Return to Moto time frame should be about 5months if you had one. Both might be a bit longer. Conservatively say 6.

As for ankle braces. That's not going to help support your Achilles tendons. Your better off initially with maybe some rigid taping or maybe the kinesio taping pending on whose doing it and their technique for the taping job.

Fyi no boot or peg is gonna stop that sort of injury either. Its technique on the bike. Placement of your foot on the peg. And your tendon strength from your off bike training program.

There should / will be lots of eccentric loading exercises in your future rehab and training prep.

Good luck mate.

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8/7/2020 6:24 AM

Matt Fisher wrote:

I tore my right one in half coming up short on a triple, had surgery Aug 5 last year.
After 3 months I was walking very gingerly, after 6 months they released me for most everything. I still really took it easy, only recently getting back on the bike with even a hint of aggression. Still don't have the full range of motion, but it suffices. For reference I'll be 50 in a week.

I was wearing SG10 boots at the time, and I'll be picking up some SIDI Atojo boots soon, as they have stops to help prevent hyper extension in both dorsi and plantar directions. Can't decide if I want the ankle saver pegs.

Matt,
Thanks for the advise. I usually switch between Sidis and SG12s depending on what I am riding. Not sure if one is better. I am still out on if I want the ankle saver pegs too. I hope to get most of my range of motion back, so far it seems to be looking good. BTW I am 48. Guess triples will be double, single!!

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8/7/2020 6:28 AM

Nutter613 wrote:

I completely tore both Achilles 12 weeks ago coming up short on a triple. I had surgery on both and am now walking and doing PT. My questions are: 1) How long before you are able to ride again (trail or Moto)? 2) Is there any good ankle braces that can be worn in a boot? I was wearing Sidi SR2 when I tore them, but I also have a pair of SG12s.

alwaysmoto wrote:

Hey Nutter. Have a bit of experience here. I'm a physio and a Moto rider. Also do injury updates on my Instagram if you want to see recovery timeframes for some injuries from the pro level. @always.moto

Return to Moto time frame should be about 5months if you had one. Both might be a bit longer. Conservatively say 6.

As for ankle braces. That's not going to help support your Achilles tendons. Your better off initially with maybe some rigid taping or maybe the kinesio taping pending on whose doing it and their technique for the taping job.

Fyi no boot or peg is gonna stop that sort of injury either. Its technique on the bike. Placement of your foot on the peg. And your tendon strength from your off bike training program.

There should / will be lots of eccentric loading exercises in your future rehab and training prep.

Good luck mate.

Alwaysmoto,
Thanks for the input. I was hoping 6 months based on how things are going currently. Start off on a MTB then move to Moto. I was pretty sure no boot or peg would have prevented injury, if anything the load would have been transferred to another joint or bone.
I will also check your IG for some traditional info.
Thanks again.

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8/8/2020 2:21 PM

Ruptured my left one completely at Glen Helen 20 years ago. I had it surgically repaired, spent 10 weeks in plaster and made a full recovery. I did spend a lot of time doing physical therapy. I doesn’t bother me today and I’m still riding Moto and mtb. Good luck and do the work when you’re able.

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8/9/2020 4:16 PM

Nutter613 wrote:

I completely tore both Achilles 12 weeks ago coming up short on a triple. I had surgery on both and am now walking and doing PT. My questions are: 1) How long before you are able to ride again (trail or Moto)? 2) Is there any good ankle braces that can be worn in a boot? I was wearing Sidi SR2 when I tore them, but I also have a pair of SG12s.

alwaysmoto wrote:

Hey Nutter. Have a bit of experience here. I'm a physio and a Moto rider. Also do injury updates on my Instagram if you want to see recovery timeframes for some injuries from the pro level. @always.moto

Return to Moto time frame should be about 5months if you had one. Both might be a bit longer. Conservatively say 6.

As for ankle braces. That's not going to help support your Achilles tendons. Your better off initially with maybe some rigid taping or maybe the kinesio taping pending on whose doing it and their technique for the taping job.

Fyi no boot or peg is gonna stop that sort of injury either. Its technique on the bike. Placement of your foot on the peg. And your tendon strength from your off bike training program.

There should / will be lots of eccentric loading exercises in your future rehab and training prep.

Good luck mate.

Nutter613 wrote:

Alwaysmoto,
Thanks for the input. I was hoping 6 months based on how things are going currently. Start off on a MTB then move to Moto. I was pretty sure no boot or peg would have prevented injury, if anything the load would have been transferred to another joint or bone.
I will also check your IG for some traditional info.
Thanks again.

happy to Help Mate.
Yeah road cycle or stationary cycle initially to reduce crash risk. then MTB and Moto for sure!

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8/9/2020 9:08 PM

Not the same, but I broke both of my legs (double pilon fractures) just over a year ago. Have plates in them and have very limited range of motion in both ankles. I got back to riding a little over eight months after my accident, probably too soon to be honest. I second the Ankle Saver pegs, I don't think I could ride if I didn't have them. As far as boots go, I only wear Tech 10s because of how stiff and protective they feel.

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8/10/2020 5:02 AM

I think a lot of it has to do with your age and fitness level. I ruptured my left one in March of 19. had the complete rolled up into my calf thing like someone else mentioned. It took a little longer to get operated on, almost 3 weeks, but it went well.

I still can't do a complete heel raise but I can get it about half way up, I also have a lot of swelling every day. I still do calf workouts and road cycle quite a bit. I was told it varies a lot on recovery and mine seems to be taking forever but then again I'm 52. I started riding at 8 months and it was pretty sketchy. Kinesiology tape definitely seemed to help me. Good luck. It's been the biggest PIA injury I've ever had.

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8/10/2020 6:44 AM

I'm going to the Doc today for mine. It's not torn. I screwed it up a few months back and the pain has been getting worse to the point I can' barely take it. . It's traveled to my heel and arch. The only thing I can see is a ball on the outside of my Achilles that wasn't here before.

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8/10/2020 4:19 PM

Seems like these Fastway pegs would help protect against achilles injuries.
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8/11/2020 12:46 PM

ripper298 wrote:

Seems like these Fastway pegs would help protect against achilles injuries.
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I have been thinking about them. may just have to go with them to avoid any future issues.

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8/11/2020 12:49 PM

yzvet426 wrote:

I'm going to the Doc today for mine. It's not torn. I screwed it up a few months back and the pain has been getting worse to the point I can' barely take it. . It's traveled to my heel and arch. The only thing I can see is a ball on the outside of my Achilles that wasn't here before.

Could be that you pulled the brevis tendon out of its groove. I also did that. May need additional surgery in a few months if the ankle does not stabilize. If it is out of the groove it starts to fray and becomes more and more painful.
Good Luck

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8/11/2020 12:51 PM

Team Ideal wrote:

I think a lot of it has to do with your age and fitness level. I ruptured my left one in March of 19. had the complete rolled up into my calf thing like someone else mentioned. It took a little longer to get operated on, almost 3 weeks, but it went well.

I still can't do a complete heel raise but I can get it about half way up, I also have a lot of swelling every day. I still do calf workouts and road cycle quite a bit. I was told it varies a lot on recovery and mine seems to be taking forever but then again I'm 52. I started riding at 8 months and it was pretty sketchy. Kinesiology tape definitely seemed to help me. Good luck. It's been the biggest PIA injury I've ever had.

Fitness level is pretty good for me being 48. Went to the Surgeon yesterday an can start riding slowly and MTB as much as tolerable. I am 12 weeks post op and can jog for about 3 minutes, so we will see. I am guessing about another 3 months to feel. about 90%.

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9/19/2020 1:21 PM

Just did mine Tuesday overjumping a table top. Had an MRI last night and its completely torn with 2cm of displacement, so I get to meet with a surgeon on Monday to discuss my options.

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9/19/2020 1:47 PM

Markopolo400 wrote:

Just did mine Tuesday overjumping a table top. Had an MRI last night and its completely torn with 2cm of displacement, so I get to meet with a surgeon on Monday to discuss my options.

I am 17 weeks post op and can jump rope and do 12” box jumps. Sometimes don’t even notice it. Could have ridden at 14 weeks but Dr. said to give it another month. Surgery is the best option. I didn’t want to wait and hope it healed and then at 6 weeks realize I needed to get surgery. I do PT once a week and go to the gym about 4 days and bike and do the same PT exercises. Hope it goes well. Just FYI I’m 48 so healing takes a little longer.

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9/19/2020 1:48 PM

Nutter613 wrote:

I am 17 weeks post op and can jump rope and do 12” box jumps. Sometimes don’t even notice it. Could have ridden at 14 weeks but Dr. said to give it another month. Surgery is the best option. I didn’t want to wait and hope it healed and then at 6 weeks realize I needed to get surgery. I do PT once a week and go to the gym about 4 days and bike and do the same PT exercises. Hope it goes well. Just FYI I’m 48 so healing takes a little longer.

Mine were 2cm on one side and 1.5cm in the other.

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9/20/2020 10:36 AM

Nutter613 wrote:

Mine were 2cm on one side and 1.5cm in the other.

Damn I can't imagine doing both at once. That had to suck. Thanks for the insight thought! Seems like the common consensus is that surgery is the way to go.

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9/20/2020 1:03 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/20/2020 1:13 PM

The achilles has poor vascularity, primarily mid-portion. You are not young (me either). Be very careful with plyometric type loading so soon. Bad combination of things there, that could compromise the repair.

Time is your friend. Advanced rehab protocols are not.

Ankle-saver type pegs are a great idea.

KT tape won’t do a fucking thing to help you, unless you develop a little tendinosis later.

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