ARC vs WC Levers? Whats the pros and cons with them?

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11/30/2019 5:57 PM

What’re your thoughts in them?

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11/30/2019 6:26 PM

Nothing better than ARC. Have known Bob for 20 years and have run every style he has made and it’s why most of the top pros use them.
But it’s best to get information from people who use them and have tried others.

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11/30/2019 7:03 PM

Since we’re on this topic, do the ARC levers fit Works Connection perches? I always see people run WC levers with the WC perches

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11/30/2019 7:16 PM

I like the traditional feel of the WC compared to the ARC system. There’s just something about ARC and ASV that doesn’t feel as precise to me, to each their own.

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11/30/2019 7:40 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/30/2019 7:48 PM

WC is smooth as butta and are on my garage Queen bike but the composite ARC’s are bullet proof and are on my race bike..

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11/30/2019 8:02 PM

eric513anderson wrote:

Since we’re on this topic, do the ARC levers fit Works Connection perches? I always see people run WC levers with the WC perches

I also have the same question. Picked up a WC perch on the Black Friday sale.

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11/30/2019 8:16 PM

Arc vs asv vs WC? That’s the real question now

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11/30/2019 8:53 PM

Arc levers have a folding hinge to keep them from breaking. Works Connection clutch levels are non folding, but the lever is Billet and very durable. ASV would be a better comparison question, IMO. With that said, I’d use Arc before any of the other folding levers, but I run the WC perch/ levers on my RMZ and only run OEM Brembo levers on my KTM’s. The WC and the OEM Brembo levers just have a better feel to me, to each their own.

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11/30/2019 9:02 PM

I recently bought one of the MSR all in one clutch perch with lever from RMATV the pivot point of the lever has a needle bearing pressed into the hole of the clutch lever and rides on the bolt for butter smooth operation along with the red anodized clicking adjust on the fly wheel and I absolutely LOVE IT!! Best part? It was only $29.95 and just as good of quality IMO as the $100+ ones.

Ive never been a fan of the "unbreakable" levers they have a bulky clunky feel to me and that even goes for the nicer newer style unbreakable levers. Its just a feel thing for me I've never liked aftermarket replacement levers in general bec they don't have that solid density feel to them. My MSR setup does though and I'm really happy with it, I know what I'm describing as "feel" probably sounds batshit crazy but I can genuinely feel a difference and I just don't like it, I'm.ot gonna say it throws off my riding but…. It does throw off my riding a little bit in the way it slightly breaks my concentration, anyway that's my .02 and I know I sound like a weirdo but oh well. I highly recommend the MSR lever setup if you're not down with dropping $100 to get a really nice clutch lever setup.

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11/30/2019 9:42 PM

Lightning78 wrote:

I recently bought one of the MSR all in one clutch perch with lever from RMATV the pivot point of the lever has a needle bearing pressed into the hole of the clutch lever and rides on the bolt for butter smooth operation along with the red anodized clicking adjust on the fly wheel and I absolutely LOVE IT!! Best part? It was only $29.95 and just as good of quality IMO as the $100+ ones.

Ive never been a fan of the "unbreakable" levers they have a bulky clunky feel to me and that even goes for the nicer newer style unbreakable levers. Its just a feel thing for me I've never liked aftermarket replacement levers in general bec they don't have that solid density feel to them. My MSR setup does though and I'm really happy with it, I know what I'm describing as "feel" probably sounds batshit crazy but I can genuinely feel a difference and I just don't like it, I'm.ot gonna say it throws off my riding but…. It does throw off my riding a little bit in the way it slightly breaks my concentration, anyway that's my .02 and I know I sound like a weirdo but oh well. I highly recommend the MSR lever setup if you're not down with dropping $100 to get a really nice clutch lever setup.

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My riding would be thrown off with the full waffle grip that’s twisting on the bars, well before any lever would, just sayin’ tongue

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11/30/2019 10:11 PM

I've tried a bunch of different levers and my favorite by far are the Streamline Reflex levers, mainly for their shape. Reflex levers have a straighter profile than other aftermarket lever. With other style levers, usually the lever will hit the knuckles on my other fingers when pulling it in. If you have long fingers and are a single finger lever puller, you'll likely like them too.

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12/1/2019 1:35 PM

I like WC but sand gets into the bearing on the clutch adjuster so they require some maintenance. I just stayed with my stock Yamaha ones this time because the adjuster is rubber covered.

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12/1/2019 2:33 PM

Works connection all the way. I do believe they do or they have had a service program where you send them in they put in new bearings etc..... maybe it was just a rider support thing or not.

I’ve never broken one or there clutch levers. The pull is awesome and adjustment is a breeze. The non breakable levers usually are too bulky. Those streamline ones are sweet looking though.

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12/1/2019 3:14 PM

Lightning78 wrote:

I recently bought one of the MSR all in one clutch perch with lever from RMATV the pivot point of the lever has a needle bearing pressed into the hole of the clutch lever and rides on the bolt for butter smooth operation along with the red anodized clicking adjust on the fly wheel and I absolutely LOVE IT!! Best part? It was only $29.95 and just as good of quality IMO as the $100+ ones.

Ive never been a fan of the "unbreakable" levers they have a bulky clunky feel to me and that even goes for the nicer newer style unbreakable levers. Its just a feel thing for me I've never liked aftermarket replacement levers in general bec they don't have that solid density feel to them. My MSR setup does though and I'm really happy with it, I know what I'm describing as "feel" probably sounds batshit crazy but I can genuinely feel a difference and I just don't like it, I'm.ot gonna say it throws off my riding but…. It does throw off my riding a little bit in the way it slightly breaks my concentration, anyway that's my .02 and I know I sound like a weirdo but oh well. I highly recommend the MSR lever setup if you're not down with dropping $100 to get a really nice clutch lever setup.

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Thé difference is the MSR perch/lever are cast. Not as durable as the WC and the lever gets quite a bit of up/down play in short order, where the WC stays nice and tight.

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12/1/2019 6:54 PM

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I prefer ASV levers.

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12/1/2019 7:09 PM

mxbrian15 wrote:

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I prefer ASV levers.

Maybe im in the minority because Teflon tape under stock perches works great and its cheap.

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12/1/2019 9:25 PM

ARC memlon levers... the Gumby of levers and IMO no cons.
Yes I use them behind bark busters but that’s only for single track. Photo

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12/1/2019 9:39 PM

mxbrian15 wrote:

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I prefer ASV levers.

Jaybird67k wrote:

Maybe im in the minority because Teflon tape under stock perches works great and its cheap.

Right there with you. I even use the Teflon tape when I buy a bike that already has unbreakable levers.

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12/2/2019 3:38 AM

mxbrian15 wrote:

Maybe I’m in the minority, but I prefer ASV levers.

Jaybird67k wrote:

Maybe im in the minority because Teflon tape under stock perches works great and its cheap.

I have never used anything other than stock levers and perches. . They always feel fine.

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12/2/2019 7:46 AM

Motion pro OEM replacement, 7.99 and feel great, they are so cheap that I can replace them 20 times but have never broken one anyway!

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