AMart Holeshots again!

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2/1/2020 8:04 PM

All the shit talk on how slow these RMZ-250’s are...and yet here AMart is out here pulling holeshots on everyone. I will say, he’s got a lot less weight than everyone, but still.

Looks like to me the Suzuki 250’s can make some power cool

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2/1/2020 8:40 PM

Good ride for A-mart tonight. He looks good on a Zook.

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2/1/2020 8:48 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/1/2020 9:13 PM

Why do people that own Suzukis always have to point out the one time a Suzuki gets a holeshot?

Edit: 250 SX Holeshots 2017-2020 (not including Triple Crowns)

Kawi - 20
KTM - 10
Honda - 6
Yamaha - 5
Husky - 5
Suzuki - 3

I guess it's a surprise to you all, hence why you feel the need to make threads about it.

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Not much to say to Vitards.

2/1/2020 9:00 PM

OneWordResponseGuy wrote:

Why do people that own Suzukis always have to point out the one time a Suzuki gets a holeshot?

Edit: 250 SX Holeshots 2017-2020 (not including Triple Crowns)

Kawi - 20
KTM - 10
Honda - 6
Yamaha - 5
Husky - 5
Suzuki - 3

I guess it's a surprise to you all, hence why you feel the need to make threads about it.

Let r eatttt

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2/1/2020 9:01 PM

I’ll beat the drum again. My man shoulda stayed at tld ktm but rumor tonight I Got was he didn’t get that offer.

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why does Kermit's fingers always smell like pork?

2/1/2020 9:05 PM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

I’ll beat the drum again. My man shoulda stayed at tld ktm but rumor tonight I Got was he didn’t get that offer.

No rumor. JGR offered him more money than TLD was willing to pay him. So once his contract was up he moved to the higher paying team.

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2/1/2020 9:07 PM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

I’ll beat the drum again. My man shoulda stayed at tld ktm but rumor tonight I Got was he didn’t get that offer.

aeffertz wrote:

No rumor. JGR offered him more money than TLD was willing to pay him. So once his contract was up he moved to the higher paying team.

Actually, TLD had to make room for incoming amateur riders that had contracts and A-mart’s was up. Don’t believe there was an offer.

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2/1/2020 9:08 PM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

I’ll beat the drum again. My man shoulda stayed at tld ktm but rumor tonight I Got was he didn’t get that offer.

aeffertz wrote:

No rumor. JGR offered him more money than TLD was willing to pay him. So once his contract was up he moved to the higher paying team.

Career hasn’t been the same since he left if you ask me. I am a huge troll fan. Love his bro Jeremy almost as much but a-Mart has a spot in my heart for some reason.

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why does Kermit's fingers always smell like pork?

2/1/2020 9:14 PM

I was always under power (fully stock bike) but had a great technique. hole shot every moto. not even a starting device. Just gate prep, clutch and throttle control. but the biggest thing was knowing every time I lined up I was going to be first to the first corner, and it just seemed to happen.its all in the mind when you boil it down.

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2/1/2020 9:30 PM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

I’ll beat the drum again. My man shoulda stayed at tld ktm but rumor tonight I Got was he didn’t get that offer.

aeffertz wrote:

No rumor. JGR offered him more money than TLD was willing to pay him. So once his contract was up he moved to the higher paying team.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Actually, TLD had to make room for incoming amateur riders that had contracts and A-mart’s was up. Don’t believe there was an offer.

Yup this was pretty well known. TLD had Cantrell moving up I believe and 4 other guys already had contracts going into the next year so there was no room for AMart.

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2/1/2020 9:34 PM
Edited Date/Time: 2/1/2020 9:35 PM

aeffertz wrote:

No rumor. JGR offered him more money than TLD was willing to pay him. So once his contract was up he moved to the higher paying team.

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Actually, TLD had to make room for incoming amateur riders that had contracts and A-mart’s was up. Don’t believe there was an offer.

mxjon454 wrote:

Yup this was pretty well known. TLD had Cantrell moving up I believe and 4 other guys already had contracts going into the next year so there was no room for AMart.

No hate but a marts better than all of em but understand age and potential matters in moto, well maybe not mcelrath

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why does Kermit's fingers always smell like pork?

2/1/2020 9:54 PM

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Actually, TLD had to make room for incoming amateur riders that had contracts and A-mart’s was up. Don’t believe there was an offer.

Ahh. I thought I remember hearing they would still have had him on but couldn’t/wouldn’t match what JGR offered. Thanks for clearing it up.

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2/1/2020 9:57 PM

sherro24 wrote:

I was always under power (fully stock bike) but had a great technique. hole shot every moto. not even a starting device. Just gate prep, clutch and throttle control. but the biggest thing was knowing every time I lined up I was going to be first to the first corner, and it just seemed to happen.its all in the mind when you boil it down.

Don’t tell everyone the ways of the holeshoteer....

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2/1/2020 10:24 PM

JOE_SPROCKETS#1 wrote:

Career hasn’t been the same since he left if you ask me. I am a huge troll fan. Love his bro Jeremy almost as much but a-Mart has a spot in my heart for some reason.

It’s called a crush for a reason...

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2/1/2020 10:54 PM

Uncle Horse must be putting the hours in on the dyno

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2/2/2020 12:59 AM

But the whoops man, the whoops. He has never been this bad in them right?

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2/2/2020 1:40 AM

Maybe I need to rewatch but I actually thought he looked a lot better in them tonight

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2/2/2020 1:44 AM

jk367 wrote:

Maybe I need to rewatch but I actually thought he looked a lot better in them tonight

He was better but these were also by far the easiest of the season. He had a horrible run through them when Cooper got him in the end.

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2/2/2020 3:21 AM

His riding is great but seems to be struggling when going through whoops. Suspension looks too stiff in them

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2/2/2020 3:39 AM

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2/2/2020 5:47 AM

OneWordResponseGuy wrote:

Why do people that own Suzukis always have to point out the one time a Suzuki gets a holeshot?

Edit: 250 SX Holeshots 2017-2020 (not including Triple Crowns)

Kawi - 20
KTM - 10
Honda - 6
Yamaha - 5
Husky - 5
Suzuki - 3

I guess it's a surprise to you all, hence why you feel the need to make threads about it.

Good work, while you're at it, what was the percentage of zooks in those races? Currently, A-Mart is currently the only one...

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"It sure is fun to have fun!"

2/2/2020 6:20 AM

Mossy wrote:

All the shit talk on how slow these RMZ-250’s are...and yet here AMart is out here pulling holeshots on everyone. I will say, he’s got a lot less weight than everyone, but still.

Looks like to me the Suzuki 250’s can make some power cool

I think at the end of last year, JGR found what they were looking for (power wise) out of their 250f's. Now...if they can get the suspension/handling sorted out, cause it looks like he's fighting the bike out on the track.

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2/2/2020 6:53 AM

OneWordResponseGuy wrote:

Why do people that own Suzukis always have to point out the one time a Suzuki gets a holeshot?

Edit: 250 SX Holeshots 2017-2020 (not including Triple Crowns)

Kawi - 20
KTM - 10
Honda - 6
Yamaha - 5
Husky - 5
Suzuki - 3

I guess it's a surprise to you all, hence why you feel the need to make threads about it.

USMCMXer wrote:

Good work, while you're at it, what was the percentage of zooks in those races? Currently, A-Mart is currently the only one...

There's a reason there's only one zook out there.

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2/2/2020 6:58 AM

I ride Suzuki and love the brand, but it’s obvious something ain’t meshing with Martin and that bike in terms of handling or suspension, it could be him too who knows but his whoop speed and he just doesn’t look comfy all the time.

But watching videos of him riding during week he looks way better cornering awesome etc, so not sure what’s going on.

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2/2/2020 7:18 AM

motomike894 wrote:

I ride Suzuki and love the brand, but it’s obvious something ain’t meshing with Martin and that bike in terms of handling or suspension, it could be him too who knows but his whoop speed and he just doesn’t look comfy all the time.

But watching videos of him riding during week he looks way better cornering awesome etc, so not sure what’s going on.

I love Amart, but do any of you think he should be beating Ferrandis, Forkner, or Cooper? Since he's not, it must be his bike right?

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2/2/2020 7:24 AM

motomike894 wrote:

I ride Suzuki and love the brand, but it’s obvious something ain’t meshing with Martin and that bike in terms of handling or suspension, it could be him too who knows but his whoop speed and he just doesn’t look comfy all the time.

But watching videos of him riding during week he looks way better cornering awesome etc, so not sure what’s going on.

Flattrack88 wrote:

I love Amart, but do any of you think he should be beating Ferrandis, Forkner, or Cooper? Since he's not, it must be his bike right?

You have a valid point I don’t think he could keep there pace the whole race regardless, but just saying videos of him riding during week he looks faster and smoother

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2/2/2020 7:37 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/2/2020 12:22 PM

I am looking for title like this "A-Mart fading into obsurity once again."

Every 250 main event holeshot i'm like:
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- Filthy Euro
- Silly prankster
- Life-long Zook fan
- Rooting for all privateers on this rotating ball of carbon, hydrogen, silicon and poop

2/2/2020 7:40 AM

He should be consistently placing at least 3rd-5th

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2/2/2020 8:13 AM

Harry_Gray wrote:

I think at the end of last year, JGR found what they were looking for (power wise) out of their 250f's. Now...if they can get the suspension/handling sorted out, cause it looks like he's fighting the bike out on the track.

Pretty sure their suspension guy left to do his own thing?

I want the team and bike to win, because Vital says they can’t.

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2/2/2020 8:33 AM
Edited Date/Time: 2/2/2020 9:04 AM

had2comment wrote:

He should be consistently placing at least 3rd-5th

Has he ever done that in SX?

The answer, no. He has never been a regular top 5 finisher in his decade-long SX career. In fact, he is finishing consistently better than ever right now.

Here is his average finish position in SX over his career:

JGR SUZ RMZ250: 7
Troy Lee KTM 250SXF: 12.4
Star YAM YZ250F: 12.6
Rock River YAM YZ250F: 8.9
Eleven-ten HON CRF250: 12.4
Privateer HON CRF250: 15.2

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