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At the end of the day the AMA nationals are just another domestic championship .
The comparison with F1 is unfair , as in F1 , just as it seems to be in MX there is somewhat of a split in drivers and fanbase , as the domestic US championships such as Indy Car and Nascar are more popular with the majority of fans and sponsors in the US and F1 seems to take a back seat to those , but having said that the F1 GP series is without doubt regarded as the premier series and does just fine without any US drivers .
As you say though , in Moto GP , all the top US riders realise ( therefore fans ) that they have to go over to the GP series to get the recognition and big bucks .
"we need one world series where all the best compete"
The GPs are there and all it's lacking is more americans. It sucks that RV got injured(i hope he does another year, retiring like this would be bad). We have at least Covington that's racing mx2 but i would like to see more americans in the GPs and i'm sure that Luongo will look in to the TV ratings when the 2015 season is over and come to the conclusion that RV has had an impact on the ratings.
We(the MX community over the world) need ONE series that have ALL the best riders in it. That would benefit everyone.
The Shop
Besides, the MXDN wouldn't be half as exciting if it did. Yawn.
The answer for that has multiple views.
1. Logistics is almost impossible doing it.
Just have a look on the Area North America it is so huge you can held the same amount of races like you do on MXGP in this area. In Europe you can drive for 2 hours and you visited 3 countries. Here you ride 20 hours and don't even see the border!
If they would be a combined series So many Riders need to fly out equipment 90% of the time way to expensive with little payback. To be fair you need to place races equally means Europe, America's and Asia.
2. The biggest Market for Off Road Motorcycles is USA
So it is more than logic that manufacturers want to have the races and good riders in the USA
The US subsidiaries are not interested letting Tomac or others competing in mainly Europe. (no payback)
In Europe you will not see that people say oh AC won the last GP I will buy a KTM tomorrow.
Here in the USA people do that, they are going to buy a new bike Monday after the race.
3. Different Tracks:
I would say different climate riding in 35c with a humidity of 90 % is brutal.
The tracks are somehow comparable at least they got to the last years.
European tracks intend more flat and smaller with less airtime.
But that changes the last Years as well so not much difference anymore.
A professional rider should be capable to adjust to the new tracks fast!
4. Faster Rider in the USA or Europe?
I don't think so they are equal however I think the MXGP riders are closer to each other.
Ok AC and JH are one of a kind but as you could see yesterday a lot of riders can win.
And this is the big difference in the USA you have about 3-5 riders who can win a class in MXGP it's about 10.
Might be because there are more factory supported riders in MXGP.
A huge difference in MXGP is there is only 1 race series and not 2 like in USA SX and MX.
So a rider can prepare 100% on MX in MXGP and that although shows the last years in MXDN that American riders intend to have issues.
The reality is the SX series is spectacular but dangerous just have a look at the last year how many riders where injured.
Now at the MX many riders are either not at 100% or don't even start due to injuries in SX.
From my point of view that's one of the main reasons we see the difference.
I makes a huge difference if you can concentrate on one race series only.
And this was a reason RV made the move to MXGP based on a interview I saw month ago.
You must have the mental capacity of a flea to talk about the same thing day in and day out.
It's painful to read, honestly.
Pit Row
I wish we had better coverage over here. Maybe some day.
Just Ferrari and Mercedes show direct presence all others are somehow invisible.
Moto GP is a different story:
The race series is way more attractive than the Onroad race series here in the USA.
And payment seems way better as well.
MXGP is different there is more money here in the USA.
At MXGP there are a view who make "big bucks" in the USA there are way more.
And this statement "Might be because there are more factory supported riders in MXGP" doesn't make much sense to me...
DC
MX Sports
Outside of the USA you hardly can even watch it.
The factory supported riders is in relation to the closeness of the field.
Here in the USA you do have a hand full of factory supported riders.
As it seems there must be more in MXGP otherwise it would be almost impossible that about 10 riders per class could win a race.
Means they focus on riding only and don't have to deal with other issue and planning.
And that makes a difference if you can focus on your daily training and riding.
See M. Stewart good rider fast and good for win he didn't even got a ride for the Outdoors.
that shows me that in the USA Motocross is focused on SX, the Outdoors are there but nut with the same engagement from the smaller Teams.
But you are right in the USA market wise only the SX Series counts.
And that's a huge difference riding SX or MX in your daily focus.
And your definition of factory support is based not on actual support but the amount of guys who have won a race? Seems like we have a bunch of guys that have won a race...
And if no one watches supercross over there, why do all European magazines cover it and fans come on here and argue?
DC
MC Sports
Dc- random question for you. Why is it that on the sx broadcasts they go through great lengths to avoid the fact that we have a mx series. I think someone here said they were interviewing Kenny once and he said he was starting to train for mx. They quickly changed topics. But on the mx broadcasts they bring up sx a few times an episode. Even say monster energy supercross, giving free plugs. Always wondered this.
That worked 15 to 20 Years ago but not now anymore.
Currently in the US Series it is very limited who can win races or not?
Don't get me wrong but have a look on the results.
At MXGP the top 10 are within 30 seconds here there are 30 seconds between 1st and 2nd "at the moment"
That's what I mean, there must be a reason for that or not?
Or is it simple that once you cant win a race anymore you back off and slow down.
Wouldn't make any sense to me.
To me it seems (and I don't have the insight) that factory or support is on a wider basis in MXGP compared to the Nationals.
I might be totally wrong, but why do we see that huge difference. Or is it the tracks? Don't know.
Regarding the broadcast you see a difference.
SX is in my point of view almost perfect ok don't have FoxSports 2 with my provider but that's ok.
The live coverage is great interruption only between the races.
The nationals is a totally different story it is most like you see some Motocross between a lot of commercials.
I know commercials are financing the broadcast but we see that it can be done different like SX.
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