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PFitzG38 2/16/2019 9:36am
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Whole lot of wrong and outdated info in the posts and AMA statement. I make CBD Isolate and ship kilos to all 50 states no problem after signing of farm bill. We are one of 5 licensed food grade labs in CO. Soon to be the first in IL along with advising the governor how to run their hemp program we will be supplying millions of seeds and genetically correct clones to all the IL farmers in time for this years crop. DieselHaus Extracts / Everything Deisel / The Hemp Foundry will be going after riders this off season. If I have anything to say about it, which I already have to receptive board members. Stay tuned for free VitalMX member samples. WE ARE COMING regardless of what Feld or AMA of Jeff Sessions has to say. No way this is getting put back in the bottle
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Shaun_Powelson wrote:
Yes, yes it is. Any CBD oil derived from hemp is 110% legal in all 50 states in the farm bill that, possibly going to be...
Yes, yes it is. Any CBD oil derived from hemp is 110% legal in all 50 states in the farm bill that, possibly going to be the best president ever, signed in 2018. There is not a single state in the United states where CBD oil from hemp is not legal. There ARE states where cbd oil from marijuana isn't legal. I don't know anything about the TV regulations or where it all stands there right now but you can use, buy, sell cbd(from hemp) in any state you want.
I read quite a bit about this last night and the problem seems to be that several states and districts within those states still say CBD oil is illegal, period. The argument that CBD completely free of THC should be legal is challenged by the fact that some believe you cannot make it completely free of THC as evidenced by police agencies testing THC-free CBD and it coming back as having THC in it. I believe this is part of what the legal departments are referring to as the gray area with the law right now.
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Shaun_Powelson wrote:
Yes, yes it is. Any CBD oil derived from hemp is 110% legal in all 50 states in the farm bill that, possibly going to be...
Yes, yes it is. Any CBD oil derived from hemp is 110% legal in all 50 states in the farm bill that, possibly going to be the best president ever, signed in 2018. There is not a single state in the United states where CBD oil from hemp is not legal. There ARE states where cbd oil from marijuana isn't legal. I don't know anything about the TV regulations or where it all stands there right now but you can use, buy, sell cbd(from hemp) in any state you want.
I read quite a bit about this last night and the problem seems to be that several states and districts within those states still say CBD oil is illegal, period. The argument that CBD completely free of THC should be legal is challenged by the fact that some believe you cannot make it completely free of THC as evidenced by police agencies testing THC-free CBD and it coming back as having THC in it. I believe this is part of what the legal departments are referring to as the gray area with the law right now.
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Patrick Potato wrote:
Just speculating, but I guess it’s safe to say Monster Energy isn’t working on a CBD infused energy drink. Or if they are, this rule will...
Just speculating, but I guess it’s safe to say Monster Energy isn’t working on a CBD infused energy drink. Or if they are, this rule will soon have an exemption just for the series sponsor. #somuchdumb
Don’t kno about Monster but I know PepsiCo and Ben and Jerry’s will soon have CBD products on the market
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I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the 2nd offense. Yes even a single joint is a felony. Of course they have to ban the advertising. Don't blame the AMA or Feld. Blame the fucken government of this shit hole country.
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Let Chad bye!! What if riders got together (union) and somehow Chad wins, can he thank all sponsors Cool
He can't.... but he will! Boy do i hope he gets a heat race win or he het it on the box
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Shaun_Powelson wrote:
Yes, yes it is. Any CBD oil derived from hemp is 110% legal in all 50 states in the farm bill that, possibly going to be...
Yes, yes it is. Any CBD oil derived from hemp is 110% legal in all 50 states in the farm bill that, possibly going to be the best president ever, signed in 2018. There is not a single state in the United states where CBD oil from hemp is not legal. There ARE states where cbd oil from marijuana isn't legal. I don't know anything about the TV regulations or where it all stands there right now but you can use, buy, sell cbd(from hemp) in any state you want.
731chopper wrote:
I read quite a bit about this last night and the problem seems to be that several states and districts within those states still say CBD...
I read quite a bit about this last night and the problem seems to be that several states and districts within those states still say CBD oil is illegal, period. The argument that CBD completely free of THC should be legal is challenged by the fact that some believe you cannot make it completely free of THC as evidenced by police agencies testing THC-free CBD and it coming back as having THC in it. I believe this is part of what the legal departments are referring to as the gray area with the law right now.
Both are correct, however THC in TFree distallate is so rare it falls under margin of error that is why WADA USADA finally accepted it. If not you couldn’t buy Dr Bonner’s soap. BTW you will NEVER find THC in CBD Isolate. It’s in the name. CBD is isolated from ALL other cannabinoids. Unless it was made improperly and never tested which would never happen with a licensed lab
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Frank wrote:
I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the...
I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the 2nd offense. Yes even a single joint is a felony. Of course they have to ban the advertising. Don't blame the AMA or Feld. Blame the fucken government of this shit hole country.
Wrong!! More outdated info being spouted on Vital
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PFitzG38 2/16/2019 10:23am
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Sorry to post and run but I got some CBD Isolate kilos to crash

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BTW what if say flesh light or monster/dragon dildo's wanted to sponsor a rider?
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plowboy wrote:
I'm far too lazy to look up which states haven't legalized CBD but it would only take one lawsuit from John Q. Public accusing Feld or...
I'm far too lazy to look up which states haven't legalized CBD but it would only take one lawsuit from John Q. Public accusing Feld or the series for promoting "illegal" products...so I understand them covering their backsides. This may not be their whole reason for the new rule but sounds legit.

I bet old DC could give us an opinion since this will most likely pop up again this summer (looks like this ruling is SX specific).
Weed is still illegal at the federal level. Therefore any money paid out of the proceeds of weed related transaction are proceeds of federal crimes, and as such, subject to seizure. Same reason banks won't do business with legal weed shops. Assets can be seized.

And no, I'm not pro or anti weed/cbd... that's just the way the legal system works.
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731chopper wrote:
I read quite a bit about this last night and the problem seems to be that several states and districts within those states still say CBD...
I read quite a bit about this last night and the problem seems to be that several states and districts within those states still say CBD oil is illegal, period. The argument that CBD completely free of THC should be legal is challenged by the fact that some believe you cannot make it completely free of THC as evidenced by police agencies testing THC-free CBD and it coming back as having THC in it. I believe this is part of what the legal departments are referring to as the gray area with the law right now.
The difference is CBD that came from Hemp. Then there is CBD that came from Marijuana. Hemp is legal everywhere, marijuana is not.

edit: I think I quoted the wrong person but oh well
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PFitzG38 2/16/2019 10:47am
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zehn wrote:
CBD products are federally legalized.

Welp turns out I’m wrong
Texas Built wrote:
Nope! Illegal on Federal level https://www.texasnorml.org/cbd-oil-in-tx/ "There are many claims that CBD oil is legal in all 50 states. However, the DEA has come out and...
Nope! Illegal on Federal level


https://www.texasnorml.org/cbd-oil-in-tx/

"There are many claims that CBD oil is legal in all 50 states. However, the DEA has come out and stated that marijuana and it’s extracts and concentrates are all schedule 1 drugs. The Controlled Substance Act states, “The term ‘marihuana’ means all parts of the plant Cannabis sativa L., whether growing or not; the seeds thereof; the resin extracted from any part of such plant; and every compound, manufacture, salt, derivative, mixture, or preparation of such plant, its seeds or resin.” The DEA has gone on to clarify that “For practical purposes, all extracts that contain CBD will also contain at least small amounts of other cannabinoids. Although it might be theoretically possible to produce a CBD extract that contains absolutely no amounts of other cannabinoids, the DEA is not aware of any industrially-utilized methods that have achieved this result.”

This means that CBD oils are still considered a schedule 1 drug and therefore not legal for sale in Texas. While there does not currently seem to be a massive number of arrests or raids in Texas, there are reports of raids and citizens facing serious time in jail for possession of the extract oil. Proceed with caution, Texans!
More wrong cbd is a schedule 6 drug and isolating any cbd cannabinoid is entirely possible, I do it everyday. Wait until you hear about CBCWoohoo
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stiksandstones 2/16/2019 11:18am
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Drink more overly caffeinated - sugar overdosed energy drinks, but pain relieving oil and creams? Nope.
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Frank wrote:
I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the...
I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the 2nd offense. Yes even a single joint is a felony. Of course they have to ban the advertising. Don't blame the AMA or Feld. Blame the fucken government of this shit hole country.
PFitzG38 wrote:
Wrong!! More outdated info being spouted on Vital
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess or consume along with all cannabis derivatives in the state of Wisconsin. It is still a Schedule 1 controlled substance.

Christ dude know what your talking about before you attempt to inform people.
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Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess...
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess or consume along with all cannabis derivatives in the state of Wisconsin. It is still a Schedule 1 controlled substance.

Christ dude know what your talking about before you attempt to inform people.
Called the local police department?

Christ dude get a life besides arguing with dudes on a moto forum

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plowboy wrote:
I'm far too lazy to look up which states haven't legalized CBD but it would only take one lawsuit from John Q. Public accusing Feld or...
I'm far too lazy to look up which states haven't legalized CBD but it would only take one lawsuit from John Q. Public accusing Feld or the series for promoting "illegal" products...so I understand them covering their backsides. This may not be their whole reason for the new rule but sounds legit.

I bet old DC could give us an opinion since this will most likely pop up again this summer (looks like this ruling is SX specific).
CPR wrote:
DC made comment in this weeks Racerhead. Reed said he was running the stickers no matter what, but I think that only applied to last weekend...
DC made comment in this weeks Racerhead.
Reed said he was running the stickers no matter what, but I think that only applied to last weekend in a state where CBD is legal. Gonna be interesting to see what happens this weekend.....
DC wrote:
Gang, the nationals are in the same situation as Feld and the AMA here: Until the law changes (which we are hoping happens before outdoors) it's...
Gang, the nationals are in the same situation as Feld and the AMA here: Until the law changes (which we are hoping happens before outdoors) it's hard to allow CBD to advertise on riders, as while the laws are different by state, TV goes to all 50 states. The law will change soon -- I guess the Farm Bill has even already signed, but not implemented -- but until then there are FCC restrictions on what can and can't be shown on TV, as well as how and where CBD can be advertised.

When Chad Reed and James Stewart had big sponsorship from the San Manuel Casino, I don't think it ever said "casino" but rather San Manuel Band of Mission Band of Soboba Indians or something like that because you couldn't advertise a casino or that kind of gambling back then on TV.

Also, we've had Weed Maps wanting to be a presenting sponsor at Washougal for a couple of years now but can't because marijuana may be legal in Washington and Oregon but it's not in all of the places where TV reaches...

I believe CBD oils will be a great sponsor stream for a lot of riders in the very near future, but right now it's not cleared everywhere and that's why the AMA had to put out this bulletin.

DC
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Davey, do you think CBD/Weed sponsors will be the death of this dying sport in the end. (Is this the best this sport can pull?)
Alcohol and cigs aren't allowed(marketing to minors while their parents are being hypocrites) and kill many people, but it's legal and billions drink. Even if its just a glass of wine at dinner. The rich just sip a higher priced glass of Macallan 63 whiskey neat instead of some cheap ass crap from the corner store in a shot sized bottle..

Bottom line is, Many parents won't want their kids to have anything to do with a sport that promotes a low brow lifestyle/activity. Drug or No active drug, Perception is reality. It's hard enough to even get parents to allow their kids today to even get a bike anymore.

To back this thought up, look at all the baseball, football, golf, tennis, etc etc etc cocaine users (ie actual Busts), and parents still put them in those sports because cocaine and drinking and partying isn't being advertised directly by the sport, and the players on some football or baseball team aren't advertising it during the actual games.

I don't think many parents are going to allow their 6 or 12 year old to follow Bilzerian either.

Slippery slope IMO.



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-MAVERICK- wrote:
If it's legal in which ever State they race, they should be allowed to run/advertise the logo. If it's illegal in that State, just tell them...
If it's legal in which ever State they race, they should be allowed to run/advertise the logo.

If it's illegal in that State, just tell them to cover it up.

To strictly not allow them to have sponsorship is straight up bullshit if you ask me.
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-MAVERICK- wrote: To strictly not allow them to have sponsorship is straight up bullshit if you ask me. I read it. It doesn't say they can't...
-MAVERICK- wrote:

To strictly not allow them to have sponsorship is straight up bullshit if you ask me.

I read it.
It doesn't say they can't have the sponsor.
They banned tobacco decades ago, they can ban any products they want to. It's a weed based product, regardless of how you feel about weed it still isn't universally accepted as a good product to use or promote.

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plowboy wrote:
I'm far too lazy to look up which states haven't legalized CBD but it would only take one lawsuit from John Q. Public accusing Feld or...
I'm far too lazy to look up which states haven't legalized CBD but it would only take one lawsuit from John Q. Public accusing Feld or the series for promoting "illegal" products...so I understand them covering their backsides. This may not be their whole reason for the new rule but sounds legit.

I bet old DC could give us an opinion since this will most likely pop up again this summer (looks like this ruling is SX specific).
CPR wrote:
DC made comment in this weeks Racerhead. Reed said he was running the stickers no matter what, but I think that only applied to last weekend...
DC made comment in this weeks Racerhead.
Reed said he was running the stickers no matter what, but I think that only applied to last weekend in a state where CBD is legal. Gonna be interesting to see what happens this weekend.....
DC wrote:
Gang, the nationals are in the same situation as Feld and the AMA here: Until the law changes (which we are hoping happens before outdoors) it's...
Gang, the nationals are in the same situation as Feld and the AMA here: Until the law changes (which we are hoping happens before outdoors) it's hard to allow CBD to advertise on riders, as while the laws are different by state, TV goes to all 50 states. The law will change soon -- I guess the Farm Bill has even already signed, but not implemented -- but until then there are FCC restrictions on what can and can't be shown on TV, as well as how and where CBD can be advertised.

When Chad Reed and James Stewart had big sponsorship from the San Manuel Casino, I don't think it ever said "casino" but rather San Manuel Band of Mission Band of Soboba Indians or something like that because you couldn't advertise a casino or that kind of gambling back then on TV.

Also, we've had Weed Maps wanting to be a presenting sponsor at Washougal for a couple of years now but can't because marijuana may be legal in Washington and Oregon but it's not in all of the places where TV reaches...

I believe CBD oils will be a great sponsor stream for a lot of riders in the very near future, but right now it's not cleared everywhere and that's why the AMA had to put out this bulletin.

DC
Racer X

Thanks for putting the issue to bed DC. So, in this instance, Feld is not conspiring...just following sound legal advice.

I love me some Chad and Deano but arguing/butting heads with Feld/AMA on this subject is tilting at windmills. If the CBD folks started a non-profit lobby group...maybe the boys could run with that as a sponsor...Idk.
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SoCalMX70 2/16/2019 12:16pm
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Just reading some social media replies and can't help but laugh at the few who actually support a ban. How fucking brainwashed do you have to be to call CBD "dope" and that it should be illegal? 1930s government propaganda sure had some lasting effects...
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GforceCoatings wrote:
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess...
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess or consume along with all cannabis derivatives in the state of Wisconsin. It is still a Schedule 1 controlled substance.

Christ dude know what your talking about before you attempt to inform people.
I respectfully disagree and say whoever you spoke to is an idiot or at the least uninformed on current law - this is not surprising some in law enforcement could be unaware of the new laws, so do all my clients in WI. BTW do you think I would post this otherwise?????⚗️
EDIT: You may have worded your question to the cops wrong We are talking about CBD from licensed and regulated labs derived from federally regulated crops of Hemp NOT Cannabis. As mandated by the federal govt. there has to be less than .3 THC in the biomass and after that is isolated there is absolutely 0% THC in the CBD Isolate
.....just sayn'
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Frank wrote:
I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the...
I never seen/used the stuff but quick google search shows CBD oil is illegal in Wisconsin and any amount of pot is a felony on the 2nd offense. Yes even a single joint is a felony. Of course they have to ban the advertising. Don't blame the AMA or Feld. Blame the fucken government of this shit hole country.
PFitzG38 wrote:
Wrong!! More outdated info being spouted on Vital
GforceCoatings wrote:
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess...
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess or consume along with all cannabis derivatives in the state of Wisconsin. It is still a Schedule 1 controlled substance.

Christ dude know what your talking about before you attempt to inform people.
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BTW what if say flesh light or monster/dragon dildo's wanted to sponsor a rider?
I’d say it’s a schlong shot. But if they did and Feld/AMA said no, they’d be screwing themselves.
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aroark247 wrote:
BTW what if say flesh light or monster/dragon dildo's wanted to sponsor a rider?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I’d say it’s a schlong shot. But if they did and Feld/AMA said no, they’d be screwing themselves.
That was, Peely-esque. LaughingTongue
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Only 5 pages?

I was expecting 10 by now.
Give it another 5 hours. Lol
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Doesn't really matter which political side you support. The ship has sailed. We all pull into port safe and sound or go down to Davy Jones locker...TOGETHER.
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aroark247 wrote:
BTW what if say flesh light or monster/dragon dildo's wanted to sponsor a rider?
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I’d say it’s a schlong shot. But if they did and Feld/AMA said no, they’d be screwing themselves.
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That was, Peely-esque. LaughingTongue
I’ll take that as a compliment Cool
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GforceCoatings 2/16/2019 12:36pm
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GforceCoatings wrote:
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess...
Your an idiot. Based on your claim I just called the local police department. I was told that CBD is 100% illegal to sell, purchase, possess or consume along with all cannabis derivatives in the state of Wisconsin. It is still a Schedule 1 controlled substance.

Christ dude know what your talking about before you attempt to inform people.
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Called the local police department?

Christ dude get a life besides arguing with dudes on a moto forum

I smoked a mountain of weed 20 years ago. I am all for the legalization of CBD, weed, cocaine, heroin and everything else under the sun. That said it is a crime in this state to buy, sell, posses or consume CBD or pot in the state I live in.

Blame the Federal Government not the AMA or Feld.
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fluxracing223 2/16/2019 12:39pm
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Why are so many people butt hurt over this? It’s pretty simple. Why would field jeopardize large fines for a handful of riders to bring sponsers on board. Than again vital always needs to cry out x1,000 as if their the ones impacted. ?
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Yep he’s running it this will be interesting they might just not put any coverage of him riding and can the AMA fine him ?
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