AMA riders results in Donington MXoN ...

Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 5:47am
Stewart 1/23
Villopoto 10/1
Ferry 9/5

Reed 12/8
Metcalfe 17/10
Byrne 8/36

Facciotti 21/15
Klatt 17/35
Medaglia 32/22

Cooper 4/21

Balbi 12/19



Not so impressive this year... What do you "honestly" think ???
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They're not on enough drugs?
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I think the AMA guys need to stick to racing events that actually have purse money and all the fans respect them at. Wink

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10/1/2008 1:04pm
When you put it in that respect it doesn't look so good... But they still won so what does everyone else's results look like?

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I'd be lying if I didn't say I thought Metty, Balbi, Byrne and Reed would do better. I think it might have been a little different if it didn't rain, but we'll never know. Some of those GP guys weren't fazed one bit by the conditions, that's for sure.

I can't wait for the next batch of GP transplants to come over.
10/1/2008 1:06pm
FastEddy wrote:
I think the AMA guys need to stick to racing events that actually have purse money and all the fans respect them at. Wink

Only one drunk idiot threw a bottle to Stewart, so...
10/1/2008 1:08pm
bogdan912 wrote:
When you put it in that respect it doesn't look so good... But they still won so what does everyone else's results look like?
I'm not talking about team USA, but AMA riders... Only team USA won, you know...
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Only one drunk idiot threw a bottle to Stewart, so...
That is one to many.
10/1/2008 1:15pm
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That is one to many.
Agree, but don't forget the tons of europeans fans who respect a lot US riders...
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I honestly didn't know that Tim Ferry worked from 9 to 5.
Why is team Canada on there? Are they listed as AMA riders?
With or without team Canada the AMA riders seem fairly out numbered.
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10/1/2008 1:22pm
I think it was an excellent showing because the AMA riders were prepared to race MX not outdoor SX . I think it was also an excellent move to put them on a track and throw them off their game a little.

I think we can all agree there is some excellent talent on both sides of the pond.
10/1/2008 1:25pm
I honestly didn't know that Tim Ferry worked from 9 to 5. Why is team Canada on there? Are they listed as AMA riders? With or...
I honestly didn't know that Tim Ferry worked from 9 to 5.
Why is team Canada on there? Are they listed as AMA riders?
With or without team Canada the AMA riders seem fairly out numbered.
Because they all have done at least one US Outdoor race this season...
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I think the AMA riders were right there but the track was pretty unforgiving a bad start and it was very hard to catch up with the leaders even when you're called RV. The track was good but a bit one lined. A guy like Cody Cooper won the Open qualifier after a good start. Boissiere was running 3rd for quite some time. Metcalfe was doing great on saturday but struggled more on sunday with some bad starts. Dusty Klatt on saturday had a good start and was running up front. Also I think whether you were on 450 or 250 wasn't making a lot of difference.

For me Reed and Byrne were real let downs. Ferry until the last race looked like he was struggling.

RV was really impressive. JS had crazy speed but looked a bit nervous
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I have alot of respect for all the guys all over the world.. I been watching alot of those mx gps on media zone and becoming more and more of a fan of those guys. They all seem to have there good tracks. Bubba rode with alot of pressure just coming off a undefeated season here in his head he just could not lose to anyone and it seemed like he rode tight those few laps pourcel was on him same with Philleparts (sorry for spelling) until he got into a grove and started pulling away. There is no doubt that RV and Bubba are the fastest guys in the world all around but I honestly think that Bubba would have his hands full on Lierop againts Deruever and DP and maybe even DeRyker. These guys are only human with a gift to ride at that level. I read on here people said he didnt shake Pourcels hand but wasnt it Pourcel that came over to Bubba right after the race and they shook hands? I couldnt see for sure from the angle.
All in all they got the job done even with some bad luck but that moto I like seeing a race its more exciting especially when they dont ever ride with eachother.
Good on all the teams the MXOF is a bad ass race I hope to go next year.
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Stewart 1/23 Villopoto 10/1 Ferry 9/5 Reed 12/8 Metcalfe 17/10 Byrne 8/36 Facciotti 21/15 Klatt 17/35 Medaglia 32/22 Cooper 4/21 Balbi 12/19 Not so impressive this...
Stewart 1/23
Villopoto 10/1
Ferry 9/5

Reed 12/8
Metcalfe 17/10
Byrne 8/36

Facciotti 21/15
Klatt 17/35
Medaglia 32/22

Cooper 4/21

Balbi 12/19



Not so impressive this year... What do you "honestly" think ???
Honestly, I think we AMA rider performed as predicted. They easily won we they didn't fall. This list only represent a VERY small portion of the talent in AMA racing. Lets say all of these guys show up...

Mike Brown Gray, TN
Ivan Tedesco Tallahassee, FL
Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN
Travis Preston Hesperia, CA
Kevin Windham Centerville, MS
Davi Millsaps Tallahassee, FL
Jake Weimer Rupert, ID
Nico Izzi Saint Clair, MI
Kyle Lewis Henderson, NV
Nathan Ramsey Menifee, CA
Nicholas Wey Dewitt, MI
Joshua Summey Huntersville, NC
Andrew Short Smithville, TX
Jeff Alessi Victorville, CA
Sean Hamblin Murrieta, CA
Josh Grant Riverside, CA
Matthew Goerke Lake Helen, FL
Paul Carpenter Ithaca, NY
Kyle Cunningham Fort Worth, TX
Kyle Chisholm Valrico, FL
Trey Canard Elk City, OK
Matthew Lemoine Pilot Point, TX
Broc Tickle Holly, MI
Jason Thomas Melrose, FL
Austin Stroupe Corona, CA
Jimmy Albertson Ozark, MO
Thomas Hahn Alvord, TX
Justin Brayton Murrieta, CA
Wil Hahn Decatur, TX
Martin Davalos Cairo, GA
Robert Kiniry La Fayette, NY
Jason Lawrence Carlsbad, CA
Matt Boni Geneva, FL
Ryan Clark Waddell, AZ
Jacob Marsack Berlin, MI
Phillip Nicoletti Cochecton, NY
Troy Adams Homosassa, FL
Broc Hepler Kittanning, PA
And more... you get the point

What do you "honestly" think the outcome would have looked like?
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10/1/2008 2:00pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:39pm
I have alot of respect for all the guys all over the world.. I been watching alot of those mx gps on media zone and becoming...
I have alot of respect for all the guys all over the world.. I been watching alot of those mx gps on media zone and becoming more and more of a fan of those guys. They all seem to have there good tracks. Bubba rode with alot of pressure just coming off a undefeated season here in his head he just could not lose to anyone and it seemed like he rode tight those few laps pourcel was on him same with Philleparts (sorry for spelling) until he got into a grove and started pulling away. There is no doubt that RV and Bubba are the fastest guys in the world all around but I honestly think that Bubba would have his hands full on Lierop againts Deruever and DP and maybe even DeRyker. These guys are only human with a gift to ride at that level. I read on here people said he didnt shake Pourcels hand but wasnt it Pourcel that came over to Bubba right after the race and they shook hands? I couldnt see for sure from the angle.
All in all they got the job done even with some bad luck but that moto I like seeing a race its more exciting especially when they dont ever ride with eachother.
Good on all the teams the MXOF is a bad ass race I hope to go next year.
I think Bubba would destroy them in Lierop. Bubba knows sand. Mud is Stewarts kryptonite.



De Dyker is the man. I love watching that dude ride.
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Crowe ya Dedyke phileparts,deruever pourcel and a bunch others are fun to watch they seem to stand alot more and ride smooth but I guess thats all in the game plan having longer moto.. Dedyker looks like a mad gorilla on a bike the dude is like 6'5 looking Smile Dont get me wrong bubba is the man no doubt but if you compare southwick to Lierop in that mxgp vid there is no comparison it makes southwick look like hangtown. I dont doubt bubba hauling in the sand being he grew up in FL and his bike skills are far above anyones, but that lierop track is just on another level of sand riding imho and we dont get to see that here. Southwick looks sandy but of what riders tell me its only like 10" deep of sand then hard base where lierop looks like glamis in November. But hey I just enjoy watching both Americans and the Gp's thank god for the net.
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10/1/2008 3:18pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:39pm
Stewart 1/23 Villopoto 10/1 Ferry 9/5 Reed 12/8 Metcalfe 17/10 Byrne 8/36 Facciotti 21/15 Klatt 17/35 Medaglia 32/22 Cooper 4/21 Balbi 12/19 Not so impressive this...
Stewart 1/23
Villopoto 10/1
Ferry 9/5

Reed 12/8
Metcalfe 17/10
Byrne 8/36

Facciotti 21/15
Klatt 17/35
Medaglia 32/22

Cooper 4/21

Balbi 12/19



Not so impressive this year... What do you "honestly" think ???
kb450 wrote:
Honestly, I think we AMA rider performed as predicted. They easily won we they didn't fall. This list only represent a VERY small portion of the...
Honestly, I think we AMA rider performed as predicted. They easily won we they didn't fall. This list only represent a VERY small portion of the talent in AMA racing. Lets say all of these guys show up...

Mike Brown Gray, TN
Ivan Tedesco Tallahassee, FL
Ryan Dungey Belle Plaine, MN
Travis Preston Hesperia, CA
Kevin Windham Centerville, MS
Davi Millsaps Tallahassee, FL
Jake Weimer Rupert, ID
Nico Izzi Saint Clair, MI
Kyle Lewis Henderson, NV
Nathan Ramsey Menifee, CA
Nicholas Wey Dewitt, MI
Joshua Summey Huntersville, NC
Andrew Short Smithville, TX
Jeff Alessi Victorville, CA
Sean Hamblin Murrieta, CA
Josh Grant Riverside, CA
Matthew Goerke Lake Helen, FL
Paul Carpenter Ithaca, NY
Kyle Cunningham Fort Worth, TX
Kyle Chisholm Valrico, FL
Trey Canard Elk City, OK
Matthew Lemoine Pilot Point, TX
Broc Tickle Holly, MI
Jason Thomas Melrose, FL
Austin Stroupe Corona, CA
Jimmy Albertson Ozark, MO
Thomas Hahn Alvord, TX
Justin Brayton Murrieta, CA
Wil Hahn Decatur, TX
Martin Davalos Cairo, GA
Robert Kiniry La Fayette, NY
Jason Lawrence Carlsbad, CA
Matt Boni Geneva, FL
Ryan Clark Waddell, AZ
Jacob Marsack Berlin, MI
Phillip Nicoletti Cochecton, NY
Troy Adams Homosassa, FL
Broc Hepler Kittanning, PA
And more... you get the point

What do you "honestly" think the outcome would have looked like?
All the US riders listed above are quality riders, particularly the likes of Millsaps, Dungey, Short, Grant etc, they're awsesome! But remember that also missing were;


Cairoli ('07 MX2 World Champ)

Christophe Pourcel ('06 MX2 World Champ - Sebastians younger & faster brother)
Townley ('04 World Champ + 2nd in 07 AMA outdoors & East Coast SX champ)

Langston ('02? World Champ, '07 AMA Outdoor champ & '06 West Coast SX champ)

Strijbos (2nd in the world MX1 in '07)

Boog (7th in the MX2 this year)

Frossard (10th in MX2 this year)

Swanepoel (SA's 3rd best rider behined Langston & Rattray)

etc etc


You guys constantly tell us that the America has the fastest riders, and yet the facts suggest that everyone barr Stewart & VP (who desecrate all opposition both sides of the Atlantic) generally run about the same speed.


We already know that Brown finished 7th in GP's in last year, Tedesco didn't do jack at the des Nations in '06, Hamblin finished 21st in MX2 last year (Ok not in his favoured class) and Alessi was an 'also ran' in GP's a few seasons ago.


The riders that have competed both sides of the pond show similar results in both series, GP riders that move to the US often start competing for titles straight away and now look at the current AMA riders results from last weekend... ok so it was a little wet, ok so one or two might not have got decent starts, ok it was colder than they were used to, ok the dirt was different to what they're used to etc etc... but 14 race results; Ferry's, Byrne's, Cooper's, Metcalfe's, Balbi's, Reed's & Klatt's, ALL tell a story.


All I know is that it's a pleasure to watch all of these guys ride and I wish I could get to see them more often. It was fantastic having Brown and Hamblin here last year and now Osborne. Send more over please!
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The GP riders seem hungrier.

I honestly think that most AMA riders get complacent and lose a lot of desire after a few years of high paying factory rides.

Everrytime I see a GP race, it seems like the riders want to win or die trying. Most of the AMA guys will give it a go for a few laps and then once they get passed they start looking for the checkered flag to they can go back to their motorhome and watch DirecTV.

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Let's analyze this correctly.

AMA riders won the overall.

AMA riders won 67 % o f the classes outright.

Of 105 riders entered, 11, or just over ten percent, compete in the

AMA.

For the most part, this small sampling of AMA participants finished

in the top twenty (20) percent of ALL riders competing.

ALL the American riders had at least one top ten (10) finish.

We have fifty states, we only sent riders from two of our states.

96% of tthe fans came to see Bubba throw insane whips over

the tabletops, the other 4% threw bottles at him.

No matter how you slice it, the Americans currently remain at the top of

the motocross food chain.

Can we be beat? Hell yeah.

But not at Red Bud, no way.





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I've been wondering, what would happen if the US were allowed to send over two or three teams like they allow in the Olympics?

USA Team 1
MX1 Stewart
MX2 Villopoto
MX3 Ferry

USA Team 2
MX1 Alessi
MX2 Dungey
MX3 Short

USA Team 3
MX1 Milsaps / Hepler / Osborne
MX2 Stroupe / Canard / Wharton / Lawrence / Izzi
MX3 Grant / Hill / Tedesco

I honestly think we could put two of the three teams on the podium and possibly all three with a little luck. There's not another country in the MX world that can make the same claim.
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moto guru wrote:
I've been wondering, what would happen if the US were allowed to send over two or three teams like they allow in the Olympics? USA Team...
I've been wondering, what would happen if the US were allowed to send over two or three teams like they allow in the Olympics?

USA Team 1
MX1 Stewart
MX2 Villopoto
MX3 Ferry

USA Team 2
MX1 Alessi
MX2 Dungey
MX3 Short

USA Team 3
MX1 Milsaps / Hepler / Osborne
MX2 Stroupe / Canard / Wharton / Lawrence / Izzi
MX3 Grant / Hill / Tedesco

I honestly think we could put two of the three teams on the podium and possibly all three with a little luck. There's not another country in the MX world that can make the same claim.
i think you're right there to be honest... scary thinking if that was to happen!!

Oh and Factoryphoto, i really agree with your decent posts Smile Not totally one sided which is cool
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10/1/2008 4:53pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 8:39pm
I'd like us to send fifty teams - the three best riders from each state,


That would add a level of fairness to things and, at the same time,


make things a LOT more interesting...


Additionally, we 'd have some grass-roots support for all the "local lads'


competing....



*Not to worry, California or Florida teams could still wrap things up.


Delaware and North Dakota might struggle....
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10/1/2008 5:27pm
I think two of those scores were good enough for overall wins in their classes.
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10/1/2008 5:36pm
Stewart 1/23 Villopoto 10/1 Ferry 9/5 Reed 12/8 Metcalfe 17/10 Byrne 8/36 Facciotti 21/15 Klatt 17/35 Medaglia 32/22 Cooper 4/21 Balbi 12/19 Not so impressive this...
Stewart 1/23
Villopoto 10/1
Ferry 9/5

Reed 12/8
Metcalfe 17/10
Byrne 8/36

Facciotti 21/15
Klatt 17/35
Medaglia 32/22

Cooper 4/21

Balbi 12/19



Not so impressive this year... What do you "honestly" think ???
All that matters is the winning team was all AMA Racers. So take your shit else where.

AMA 1
FIM 0

NEXT!
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GuyB wrote:
I think two of those scores were good enough for overall wins in their classes.
GuyB couldnt have said it better. Might not been the best scores but did get the overall.
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10/1/2008 7:35pm
Stewart 1/23 Villopoto 10/1 Ferry 9/5 Reed 12/8 Metcalfe 17/10 Byrne 8/36 Facciotti 21/15 Klatt 17/35 Medaglia 32/22 Cooper 4/21 Balbi 12/19 Not so impressive this...
Stewart 1/23
Villopoto 10/1
Ferry 9/5

Reed 12/8
Metcalfe 17/10
Byrne 8/36

Facciotti 21/15
Klatt 17/35
Medaglia 32/22

Cooper 4/21

Balbi 12/19



Not so impressive this year... What do you "honestly" think ???

AMA riders won the event and that's the point. What is your point?
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10/1/2008 7:52pm
Stewart 1/23 Villopoto 10/1 Ferry 9/5 Reed 12/8 Metcalfe 17/10 Byrne 8/36 Facciotti 21/15 Klatt 17/35 Medaglia 32/22 Cooper 4/21 Balbi 12/19 Not so impressive this...
Stewart 1/23
Villopoto 10/1
Ferry 9/5

Reed 12/8
Metcalfe 17/10
Byrne 8/36

Facciotti 21/15
Klatt 17/35
Medaglia 32/22

Cooper 4/21

Balbi 12/19



Not so impressive this year... What do you "honestly" think ???
Getting your teeth kicked out year after year must get old.

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