AMA Riders Got Smoked Today...

twotwosix
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Edited Date/Time 10/8/2018 5:52am
Hats off to the MXGP riders, they were the better, faster riders today in a foreign country on a foreign track. Props.
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peltier626
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10/7/2018 1:42pm
We are definitely at a disadvantage on these track conditions. maybe we could stop with the booters and focus on the track variety and different racing surfaces. Some changes need to be made. I'm upset. We got our ass whooped.
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Gandorlf
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10/7/2018 1:45pm
Rude awakening indeed.

But I'm not convinced Eli is doing his best. He's usually good in these conditions. I thought the 19 was a good idea but I'm thinking now maybe he should've kept the 18 for this one...
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10/7/2018 1:48pm
Gandorlf wrote:
Rude awakening indeed. But I'm not convinced Eli is doing his best. He's usually good in these conditions. I thought the 19 was a good idea...
Rude awakening indeed.

But I'm not convinced Eli is doing his best. He's usually good in these conditions. I thought the 19 was a good idea but I'm thinking now maybe he should've kept the 18 for this one...
Tomac's "best" is very inconsistent, he's not the strongest mentally as history shows.
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twotwosix
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10/7/2018 1:49pm
I hope team USA can find their balls and some motivation to put on a real showing at one of these here soon. USA riders just don't seem to care about MXDN like they used to...

Hell, they had to host the event in Tomac's backyard for him to even agree to go this year!
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ATKpilot99
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10/7/2018 1:52pm
A glaring example of how much stronger the GP field is and really no end in sight. I'm really happy for Coldenhoff . Seems like a good dude.
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jtiger12
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10/7/2018 1:53pm Edited Date/Time 10/7/2018 1:56pm
That was embarrassing. Our series is clearly 2nd class(IMHO)
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PRM31
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10/7/2018 1:53pm
Pretty clear to me the US nationals are the 2nd tier series. Just because we aren’t as familiar with some of the MXGP names doesn’t mean they aren’t as good or better. All the talk means nothing, on race day today the MXGP riders were better, period.
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TeamGreen
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10/7/2018 1:56pm
I saw our guys riding their asses off and simply getting beat by riders that knew how to ride this type of track better & faster. The Euro's have "The Outdoors" down to a science.

I was STOKED to see Cairolli lay it down like he did.
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twotwosix
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10/7/2018 1:57pm Edited Date/Time 10/7/2018 1:58pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
A glaring example of how much stronger the GP field is and really no end in sight. I'm really happy for Coldenhoff . Seems like a...
A glaring example of how much stronger the GP field is and really no end in sight. I'm really happy for Coldenhoff . Seems like a good dude.
Coldenhoff rode awesome! Netherlands are the real champs today!
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10/7/2018 1:58pm
I believe a big part is the bike set up from the usa riders...
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Stoop
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10/7/2018 2:01pm
Hunter Lawrence did ok Cool
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twotwosix
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10/7/2018 2:02pm
TeamGreen wrote:
I saw our guys riding their asses off and simply getting beat by riders that knew how to ride this type of track better & faster...
I saw our guys riding their asses off and simply getting beat by riders that knew how to ride this type of track better & faster. The Euro's have "The Outdoors" down to a science.

I was STOKED to see Cairolli lay it down like he did.
I did not see them ride their asses off. I'm sure they tried hard, but they almost didn't qualify and they got beat by quite a few riders that truly aren't on their talent/skill/professional level today. If we're being honest, let's just call it for what it was.

I mean, it was a wet RedBud track that was still in good enough shape to jump Larocco's Leap. No excuses really.
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ob
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10/7/2018 2:02pm
And people are suprised? You haven't been paying attention if you were.
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jasonv43
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10/7/2018 2:03pm
My reactions to today's racing by Team USA.




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cool_hand
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10/7/2018 2:03pm
Totally "schooled", the Euro Riders know how to get the starts. Period.
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Troy
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10/7/2018 2:04pm
I paid $30 to watch the Americans battle the Euros. The Americans were nowhere to be found and I ended up just overpaying an MXGP. Hats off the the Euros and team France.
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10/7/2018 2:07pm
Even Roczen got his ass whooped. I was looking at him and Tomac barely in the top 10 and thinking how weak it makes the 450 national field look.
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JFerry
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10/7/2018 2:10pm
Next year selection is going to be fun.
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twotwosix
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10/7/2018 2:10pm Edited Date/Time 10/7/2018 2:13pm
The biggest surprise for me was Plessinger, the back to back champ, who is tall, and an offroad specialist, struggle so badly on this wet, rough track...
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10/7/2018 2:11pm
Troy wrote:
I paid $30 to watch the Americans battle the Euros. The Americans were nowhere to be found and I ended up just overpaying an MXGP. Hats...
I paid $30 to watch the Americans battle the Euros. The Americans were nowhere to be found and I ended up just overpaying an MXGP. Hats off the the Euros and team France.
Truest statement I’ve heard this far
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WCRider
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10/7/2018 2:14pm
Ama should add 3 more races including two in the sand and finish the season 1 week or 2 before the nations. This would be a good start.
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10/7/2018 2:15pm
I guess the current US riders only go fast when there is substantial money on the line Sad
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swtwtwtw
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10/7/2018 2:17pm
No heart, I dare say USA might be done racing in the mxdn.
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PRM31
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10/7/2018 2:18pm
Anyone betting against Netherlands in the sand at Assen next year? Didn’t think so.
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EngIceDave
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10/7/2018 2:18pm
I've said for years, only to get shot down, American fans wildly underestimate the talent and speed of the Euros (and around the world, nice job, Aussies)
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RG95
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10/7/2018 2:18pm
Imagine if Febvre and Gajser were there. It was truly a shame that two world champions couldn't take part at the event.
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