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And all some keyboard warriors can do is bitch about it.
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But you're right, there's no way to prove my theory.
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As for nutswinging, as I (and others) have said, I’d want to see the same rules applied against Tomac if the roles were switched. Some of you may not believe that, but I don’t really care, and you couldn’t be more wrong. Again, it’s about professionalism and enforcing the rulebook that everyone races under. Impressive or not. Intentional or not. 450 or 250. Main event or LCQ. Pick any rider under the tent. Rider A literally crossed a line while making a pass on Rider B. The rules don’t allow that, nor should they.
2) Super impressed with Webb this season. Not a huge fan, but don't dislike the guy. Indifferent, I guess.
3) Webb obviously did not intend to jump on a tough block
Webb landed off track, out of control and was on an accidental trajectory to T-Bone Tomac
Tomac notices, hops out of the racing line to avoid it, and Webb completes the pass.
Had Webb not been that far inside, past the apex of the corner he likely would not have been in a position to complete a pass there. We will never know.
Webb was clearly faster and most likely would have passed Tomac somewhere else. Or maybe Tomac holds him off. Or a Webb/Tomac battle results in a mistake/crash that shakes the points up. We'll never know. How many races have we watched where a clearly faster rider finishes 2nd place, because he simply couldn't get around the slower rider in 1st?
What is clear is Webb (intended or not) got lucky to keep it on two wheels AND completed a pass at the same time. Intent is not in the rule book, and is impossible to judge. If I "didn't mean to" speed in my car do they throw out the ticket? What if JLaw "didn't mean to" jump the starting gate at Hangtown?
I thank GuyB for his insight on how the decision was made, but I think the majority of fans agree that WHY the decision was made makes no sense, according to the rules. I am a fan of many other race series, and in all of them if a pass was completed from going off track a penalty would be applied.
A root issue is the race officials apply subjective conditions to objective incidents. Was a take-out retaliatory or for the win in the last corner? Was cutting the track intentional?
Enforce the rules objectively and all the drama goes away.
why ? Who cares? He broke the rules and should be penalized.
Speaking of, after all that has transpired in the last two years since that incident in Las Vegas, I wonder how many times Eli has thought to himself "Man, I should have just clobbered Dungey and taken that fat check to the bank"
There are a lot of arguments from personal incredulity in this thread: the idea that if I don't understand it, it must be wrong. That is a fallacy.
Who’s triggered? I’m not.
I’m simply laughing at all the angry Keyboard Assassins and their expert knowledge sans any rule book or real understanding of most things Supercross.
So, take a look at your angry response aimed directly at me...where-as my post was a mere statement of fact...with no direct angst or fingers pointed at any one person or post.
So...again...and as factual as we ALL know it is...
A guy cross-ruts in a Rythm Section...at speed...manages to save it...& all some keyboard warriors can do is bitch about it.
Namely, you.
Thanks for playing along!
Appendix A A2.c.12. Failure to re-enter the track at a point as close as practical to the point at which the rider left the track; and in so doing gaining an unfair advantage
It looked like Webb DID NOT fail to re-enter the track at a point as close as practical to where he left the track. Couldn't have gotten much closer actually.
Simply put, those who believe the penalty is just believe that the location Webb entered the track left him at an advantage to overtake the preceding rider. The reason we believe that is because an actual pass was made as a result of the excursion from the course. If Webb had yielded the position, it would simply be an issue of track exit-entry. Nobody here believes that the excursion itself was grounds for penalty. We just feel that turning a mistake into an advanced position is grounds for penalty.
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Seen it in a BMX documentary once, big final race, kid jumps the track but pulls a back flip and never touches the infield of the track, so all is good.
End of the day intentional or not, some form of penalty should have been handed down, In any other form of motorsport, if you make a pass while going off track, even if not intentional, if you don't rectify the position straight away some form of penalty is coming.
Its an EZ call, coop gained an advantage after leaving the track. you cant factor in intent to apply the rule, cuz intent is not addressed in the rule.
ok, were done now, I have spoken.
who am I kidding, 12 pager EZ
More than 80 riders hit the track nobody cross rutted ike CW except CW.
Seems a lot of rutts on that jump.
CW moved to the left before the jump without a cross rutt.
The track was a piece of junk to pass you had to ride like an idiot.
Nothing more nothing less.
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