5 year old tire sent to me

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Edited Date/Time 4/9/2022 8:12pm
Purchased a new Dunlop MX12 100/90-19 on ebay last week, and when it arrived, it shows a manufacturing date code of 4217 (October 2017). Is it worth pursuing a refund or should I try to mount it? Feels somewhat stale. Curious to know if people that ran into this were normally just SOL or were able to get their money back.





Pic comparing it to an old 110/90-19. Not apples to apples by any means:

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Glowie 4/6/2022 10:59pm
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Honestly, being a soft terrain tire, I don’t think the carcass is going to be taking a lot of strain. See if they’ll take it back no hassle. If seller won’t exchange for free, I’d run it no problem.
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side-pipe 4/6/2022 11:03pm
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Mount it but go ahead and get another one on the way, the knobies are gonna pop off quick.
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My first thought is if was stored inside out of the sun it probably wouldn’t make a difference but I’m no scientist. I would think you’ll chase your tail sending it back. Mount it, run it, and buy from a different seller
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Just run it man.

I’d never think of buying a hoop from eBay. What’s wrong with your local dealer?
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Chris_Buehler 4/7/2022 3:32am
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tobz wrote:
Just run it man.

I’d never think of buying a hoop from eBay. What’s wrong with your local dealer?
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tobz wrote:
Just run it man.

I’d never think of buying a hoop from eBay. What’s wrong with your local dealer?
If his local dealers are like mine and want damn near $150 for a Dunlop. I buy all mine at the races for $80-$90 and they'll usually mount it for an additional $10. Not all dealers are created equal.
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Boomslang 4/7/2022 4:09am
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side-pipe wrote:
Mount it but go ahead and get another one on the way, the knobies are gonna pop off quick.
Correct, tyres age (rubber gets harder) and the knobbies will start breaking off very quickly. Contact EBay and deal with it.
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tobz wrote:
Just run it man.

I’d never think of buying a hoop from eBay. What’s wrong with your local dealer?
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I was a local Dealer. We checked the dates on everything we received. If it was beyond 2 years we sent them back and asked for a replacement. We had a guy come in wanting to know if we would swap him out for a four year old tire he received from a mail order purchase, for a newer one in our inventory.... "Just sell this one to someone who doesn't care." he told me. We didn't swap him out...
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mx317 4/7/2022 5:29am
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Six years is the expiration date on new tires.
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racinstation 4/7/2022 6:48am
4/7/2022 6:48am Edited Date/Time 4/7/2022 8:34am
I would run it. It looks fine in the pictures and a sand/soft tire like that doesn't usually chunk from use anyway. I don't think someone was trying to pull one on you.
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mwssquad827 4/7/2022 7:14am
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Did you buy it at a discount??
I would run it and not buy tires off of eBay anymore…

PS I have never in 30 years of buying tires ever looked at date made
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mwssquad827 wrote:
Did you buy it at a discount?? I would run it and not buy tires off of eBay anymore… PS I have never in 30 years...
Did you buy it at a discount??
I would run it and not buy tires off of eBay anymore…

PS I have never in 30 years of buying tires ever looked at date made
I agree. If you got it at a really cheap price, you just found out why. Tires do have a shelf life, as mentioned. More of a concern with automobile tires. But a lot of automotive tires that you see at a really cheap price online are new old stock. I would never mount a new "old" tire on one of my vehicles.
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StankBooty 4/7/2022 8:17am
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Thanks for the replies fellas. I wasn't under the impression that I got some killer deal, though I didn't really shop around as it was a large shopping cart purchase of 19 items from different sellers. The tire was $117.63 shipped (= $24.93 shipping + $85.83 tire before tax) from MXTire on eBay.

Coincidentally, I work in a building that used to be a Dunlop plant (we do combat helicopter modifications), and next door to us us is Dunlop's proving ground. Has an MX/SX track and a road course with sprinklers/skidpads/etc. Maybe I should run it by them.
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dkurtd 4/7/2022 8:20am
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For those asking, I've bought tires from this seller (MXTire on the shipping label) on Ebay many times. For those who don't know who MXTire is, it's owned by Jeff Cernic. They seem to have some good deals and were really good before Ebay started charging sales tax. Not only do they sell on Ebay, they sell on Amazon and also have a store front in PA.

As far as the date, If you feel uncomfortable running it then reach out to them. I bet they will make it right with you.
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racinstation wrote:
I would run it. It looks fine in the pictures and a sand/soft tire like that doesn't usually chunk from use anyway. I don't think someone...
I would run it. It looks fine in the pictures and a sand/soft tire like that doesn't usually chunk from use anyway. I don't think someone was trying to pull one on you.
you obviously don't ride in sand regularly.
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mx317 4/7/2022 8:23am
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StankBooty wrote:
Thanks for the replies fellas. I wasn't under the impression that I got some killer deal, though I didn't really shop around as it was a...
Thanks for the replies fellas. I wasn't under the impression that I got some killer deal, though I didn't really shop around as it was a large shopping cart purchase of 19 items from different sellers. The tire was $117.63 shipped (= $24.93 shipping + $85.83 tire before tax) from MXTire on eBay.

Coincidentally, I work in a building that used to be a Dunlop plant (we do combat helicopter modifications), and next door to us us is Dunlop's proving ground. Has an MX/SX track and a road course with sprinklers/skidpads/etc. Maybe I should run it by them.
Yeah, my buddy Clark Stiles works there. I was shown around there once and saw some cool stuff.
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mx317 4/7/2022 8:27am
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dkurtd wrote:
For those asking, I've bought tires from this seller (MXTire on the shipping label) on Ebay many times. For those who don't know who MXTire is...
For those asking, I've bought tires from this seller (MXTire on the shipping label) on Ebay many times. For those who don't know who MXTire is, it's owned by Jeff Cernic. They seem to have some good deals and were really good before Ebay started charging sales tax. Not only do they sell on Ebay, they sell on Amazon and also have a store front in PA.

As far as the date, If you feel uncomfortable running it then reach out to them. I bet they will make it right with you.
I've also bought tires from them at Loretta's. I think one time he bought out JGR's Pirelli stock and he had some older tires he sold cheap.

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Yz229 4/7/2022 8:30am
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Really depends on how they are stored. I just bought a Pirelli MX Soft from RMATV and even it was stamped early 2019. I don't think they sell enough MX12's/Pirelli Softs in the US to get into newer batches. Not even worried about it. I even bought a 4 year old Pirelli SuperCorsa for my BMW S1000RR and ran it just fine. I would worry about it much more on a street application then dirt.

Here is a video on tire age I saw recently - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwbLt8vZH5w&t=329s
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McG194 4/7/2022 8:37am
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Take this for what it's worth, you can believe me or not, doesn't bother me.

We had an engineer for Pirelli/Metzeler in our company doing a presentation. He showed us the tires that Carlos Checa used to win the Miller Motorsport round of World Superbike. These tires had date codes of 5 and 7 years before the race they were used at. Then went on to tell us that they basically spent their life in the belly of a 747 flying to every race before they finally got used. I say if a set of tires can go through that many heat cycles where they go below zero and then to tropical places like Malaysia, I think a 7 year old dirt bike tire will be fine.
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mwssquad827 4/7/2022 8:40am
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StankBooty wrote:
Thanks for the replies fellas. I wasn't under the impression that I got some killer deal, though I didn't really shop around as it was a...
Thanks for the replies fellas. I wasn't under the impression that I got some killer deal, though I didn't really shop around as it was a large shopping cart purchase of 19 items from different sellers. The tire was $117.63 shipped (= $24.93 shipping + $85.83 tire before tax) from MXTire on eBay.

Coincidentally, I work in a building that used to be a Dunlop plant (we do combat helicopter modifications), and next door to us us is Dunlop's proving ground. Has an MX/SX track and a road course with sprinklers/skidpads/etc. Maybe I should run it by them.
For $117 a tire and your not happy with the tire you bought.. you should support your local shop… IMHO
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ridinbeast932 4/7/2022 8:44am
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I had a tire chunk apart a few years ago. Checked the manufacturing code and it was 4.5 years old when I bought it. Unfortunately since it was within the expiration date, Motosport wouldn't do shit. But still a dick move for any business to be selling tires 4+ years old in my opinion.
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Mr. Afterbar 4/7/2022 9:36am
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I left some 756's hanging on the wall in my garage for about 5 years. Knobs tore off first ride. You can run it, but it most likely will lose knobs or tear knobs quickly.
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If you're going to buy online, ask them to check the dates first. A 5 year old tire has definitely lost some integrity.

When Herlings came over for the Indiana Nat, he was particular on tires to the week.

How do I know this? I worked at Pirelli for years.
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resetjet 4/7/2022 10:41am
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Gonna be a bitch to mount and it will chunk. Shed it.
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nrosso391 4/7/2022 10:51am
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no good product ever shows up on ebay. never will. too many scams. Using eBay was a large red flag.
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mx317 4/7/2022 11:06am
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nrosso391 wrote:
no good product ever shows up on ebay. never will. too many scams. Using eBay was a large red flag.
I've bought hundreds of items from eBay and will continue to do so. Any problem I've ever had (very few) was taken care of by eBay.
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dkurtd 4/7/2022 11:58am
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nrosso391 wrote:
no good product ever shows up on ebay. never will. too many scams. Using eBay was a large red flag.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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Moto520 4/7/2022 1:23pm
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Rocky mountain ATV or Motosport for this stuff. I think the tire would be fine but would also prefer a newer one if given a choice. just run it
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murph783 4/7/2022 1:25pm
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Stupid question did they even make the mx12 in 2017?

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