5 rounds Vegas over 2 weeks no fans.

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3/16/2020 3:07 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2020 3:08 AM

Rumor from Main Event Moto with Blair: in order for it to be a championship 4 or 5 more rounds need to be run. Rumor is 5 rounds over 2 weeks, no fans, all in Vegas.

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3/16/2020 3:18 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2020 3:19 AM

I heard that as well, the guy also said they want to start it in two weeks. Maybe he just misspoke but that seems like a bit of a stretch.

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3/16/2020 3:25 AM

jorgechavez wrote:

I heard that as well, the guy also said they want to start it in two weeks. Maybe he just misspoke but that seems like a bit of a stretch.

Yea, I’d be surprised to see it happen that soon.

On a positive, this Could be a good thing for AC9 and any other riders who need time to heal!

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3/16/2020 3:48 AM

5 rounds-2weeks?
Hectic!

That'd certainly test endurance levels and throw a few variables.
Could be a complete shit show too.

Bring it on!

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3/16/2020 4:03 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2020 4:04 AM

You still have teams, event staff, tv production, track builders, security all needing to travel in from all over to make it happen.

Season is probably over.

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3/16/2020 4:07 AM

As a Roczen fan, im happy. Hard pack and big whoops and slick conditions suit him. Not saying he is faster than Tomac, but i do think with Kenny’s good starts he should maintain a gap rather than get closed down by Eli....hopefully 😋

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3/16/2020 4:20 AM

Could be good solution but IMO they will need space for 2 tracks. Mix of day & night races? An awful big help to privateers due to no travelling?

More ups than downs for me. Big queries are how do riders train? Where will everyone stay?

Depending on what the circumstances are they ‘could’ let fans pay at the gate. Think about it, you are a fan and get the opportunity to go watch intense racing over 2 weeks, sounds like a good holiday to me.

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3/16/2020 4:56 AM

Ebs wrote:

You still have teams, event staff, tv production, track builders, security all needing to travel in from all over to make it happen.

Season is probably over.

I have a feeling they in the process of figuring out how many people they will need.

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3/16/2020 5:01 AM

There won’t be any more supercross this season , think about it hotels and other things are closing in Vegas this week. No way they will let a race happen where this is well over 250 industry people

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3/16/2020 5:32 AM

When they spoke of 'the rider that is holding it up from happening'....

Its 100% Roczen and he is 100% in the right mind to not go. Vegas isn't any safe than other cities, its just that it depends on tourism to exist so will do anything for cash as has been hinted on Pulp shows also.

Also Roczen or Eli are the only riders that have the clout in the series to stop it running plus Roczen has already talked about his affected immune system....

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3/16/2020 5:34 AM

Think of all the money spent for almost no return on investment.

Just so fans can have some results?

Not going to happen for SX, basketball, hockey or any sport we enjoy.

If they can't pack the stadium or make money on the whole thing, they won't do it.

And really, can you blame them?

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3/16/2020 5:48 AM

KX500 wrote:

Think of all the money spent for almost no return on investment.

Just so fans can have some results?

Not going to happen for SX, basketball, hockey or any sport we enjoy.

If they can't pack the stadium or make money on the whole thing, they won't do it.

And really, can you blame them?

"Just so fans can have some results?"


Not necessarily

Monster isn't going to pay Feld, Kawasaki, Yamaha, PC or Tedder for a full season for half a season
Geico isn't going to pay the team a full season for half a season
WPS/Fly isn't going to pay TPJ, RMATVMC Team, and all the others for a full season for half a season

It's more about saving the teams and sport financially by completing all the races and getting them on TV

If no other live sports are going on, this could be a massive boost for SX, just like the 1979 Daytona 500, where the nation was snowed in, many events cancelled, and there was nothing on TV but Daytona, so everyone tuned in, and it happened to be an exciting ending that also has a fist fight between Cale Yarborough and Donnie Allison

Not that we need fist fights, but an exciting ending in front of a house-bound audience could be a huge boost

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3/16/2020 5:56 AM

Zacka 161 wrote:

When they spoke of 'the rider that is holding it up from happening'....

Its 100% Roczen and he is 100% in the right mind to not go. Vegas isn't any safe than other cities, its just that it depends on tourism to exist so will do anything for cash as has been hinted on Pulp shows also.

Also Roczen or Eli are the only riders that have the clout in the series to stop it running plus Roczen has already talked about his affected immune system....

He does have the right to not go. But that's on him, it shouldn't affect everyone else in the series.

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3/16/2020 6:08 AM

First of all, I want to see the rest of the races run as much as the next guy.

I just don't see it happening unless there is money to be made.

What does each one of these teams spend to go to a race?

And if an empty stadium but televised scenario were viable, how much of the profits from commercials etc. would the network need to share, in order for the teams to do it?

Of course I really don't know how teams determine profitable from non-profitable. It could be simpler than I think or even more complicated.

And how many motorcycles do you think are going to be sold in the next 3-4 weeks? There are bound to be some places where bike shops just close the doors for a while.

Who pays for what, will be a long lasting legacy of the coronavirus. I imagine it'll take years & many many lawsuits to get that all figured out.

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3/16/2020 6:24 AM

rider892 wrote:

There won’t be any more supercross this season , think about it hotels and other things are closing in Vegas this week. No way they will let a race happen where this is well over 250 industry people

I think you're right. All MGM resorts are now closed in Vegas. Just the start probably.

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3/16/2020 7:25 AM

rider892 wrote:

There won’t be any more supercross this season , think about it hotels and other things are closing in Vegas this week. No way they will let a race happen where this is well over 250 industry people

bradnelson wrote:

I think you're right. All MGM resorts are now closed in Vegas. Just the start probably.

Yes the season is probably over...We can only hope this shit is done before the great outdoors.

So the titles will go to:

- TOMAC
- SEXTON
- FERRANDIS

Honestly regarding to theirs seasons this three deserves it and it’s not an hold-up so i am fine with it

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3/16/2020 7:44 AM

KX500 wrote:

First of all, I want to see the rest of the races run as much as the next guy.

I just don't see it happening unless there is money to be made.

What does each one of these teams spend to go to a race?

And if an empty stadium but televised scenario were viable, how much of the profits from commercials etc. would the network need to share, in order for the teams to do it?

Of course I really don't know how teams determine profitable from non-profitable. It could be simpler than I think or even more complicated.

And how many motorcycles do you think are going to be sold in the next 3-4 weeks? There are bound to be some places where bike shops just close the doors for a while.

Who pays for what, will be a long lasting legacy of the coronavirus. I imagine it'll take years & many many lawsuits to get that all figured out.

Feld is losing ten's of millions right now.

But if teams die, and riders have to get jobby-jobs in order to live, that'll effect their show in 2021 and beyond, not to mention the additional millions Feld will lose in lost sponsorship money.

It is in Feld's and everyone else's best interest to put on the shows, one way or another, and that IS THE PLAN as of now.

You can be negative and poo-poo it all you want, but that IS the plan

How, where and when, is the question.

Latest idea seems to be run the balance after the Outdoors in a fast paced few weeks, maybe running up to the MEC

Likely the MXdN will be cancelled, or we'll skip it with other Nation's, because the MXGP is going to have a ton of races to make up in their schedule.

Anyone who insists on being negative, knock yourself out, but those who know, know they're all trying to put a plan together, but that can't be done until the governments have a handle on this thing and know when we're on the backside

But you go ahead and tell me I'm wrong, because you're the expert

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3/16/2020 7:47 AM

Ain’t happening. We’ll roll into outdoors sometime around June

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3/16/2020 8:05 AM

I’d like to see where it is written in the books that they need 5 more rounds to call it a season.

If it’s not written, which is probably the case, who is making that call? Feld? The AMA? The FIM?
The accountants that are dealing with lawyers of sponsors?

Who’s making the rules?

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3/16/2020 8:07 AM

The sponsors

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3/16/2020 8:11 AM

I'm just saying, race or don't race, will have to make sense financially.

If they simply loose less money by racing, that could be the answer.

As I said, I want them to race.

I just don't blame them if it doesn't make sense To race.

And of course somebody is scrambling to put a plan together to limit the damage. Hope it works - Life is way more interesting with SX than without!

But there are lots of unknowns and variables that would make this a job that few would want.

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3/16/2020 8:20 AM

Seems it would be an enormous challenge just to feed teams and track crew.
And with some states banning gatherings of 50 or more ........... I would love to watch SX
...... Monster Cup .... maybe

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3/16/2020 8:28 AM

What no one has discussed is what if one or two of the top five riders has to go into quarantine, then what does that do to the master plan of running 5 races? Let's say it's Kenny and Eli, how does that play out? Does Honda and Kawasaki convince Feld or Monster to call it a season? How about Webb and Kenny, does KTM and Honda plead for a stoppage?

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3/16/2020 8:36 AM

Langston_fan wrote:

As a Roczen fan, im happy. Hard pack and big whoops and slick conditions suit him. Not saying he is faster than Tomac, but i do think with Kenny’s good starts he should maintain a gap rather than get closed down by Eli....hopefully 😋

Maintain what gap? He’s down by 3...and Tomac is a dry slick demon...watch Denver from last year...this does not favor KR imo

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3/16/2020 8:40 AM

IF Feld has to wait until the virus is played out the fans will be super hungry for SX. Five races in 2 weeks all at the same venue will probably receive mild enthusiasm from fans who will grudgingly support it.

Hope they figure it out. the US Gov is ready to throw lots of money at industries damaged by this world wide pandemic

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Brapasaurus Rex

3/16/2020 8:50 AM

I admire the moxie and determination to pull something off. It’s part of what makes the sport, and the country, so great.

But this is a misreading of the situation. We are at the very beginning of this outbreak - not the middle, not near the end.

It’s also delusional to suggest that supercross will be able to do what is needed to stage an event when you look at the steps that are being taken in much larger and vital parts of the economy.

Supercross 2020 is finished.

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3/16/2020 9:11 AM

All MGM and Wynn properties will close tonight and will not reopen until May 2. This includes hotels and casinos.

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3/16/2020 9:16 AM

'We are at the very beginning of this outbreak - not the middle, not near the end.'

Maybe your crystal ball is better than anybody else. Hope not, but these next few weeks will be interesting, if at a much slower pace.

It's hard to know how much weight to put on information from other countries. Will results in the USA be the same as in Iran or China or Italy?

I do know that, outside of Washington state (which I view as being much the same as other countries), there have still only been about 28 deaths, in the USA.

Yes, that # will go up. The question remains, where will it end?

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3/16/2020 9:18 AM

If they're going to do anything, they should hold 1-3 races in Florida at the private test tracks. Limit it to the top 10 in the series, limited travel required, no fans, you don't even have to have a live feed. Hell, plenty of championships have been decided without a live TV feed. Technically, I don't think the FIM or AMA even need Feld in order to hold a race like this.

If they want to settle it, that's the only thing that really makes any sense, and even that is just relatively speaking compared to holding anything in a stadium.

Otherwise just call the series where it stands and let the riders focus on their families and what's next.

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3/16/2020 9:24 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2020 9:24 AM

Someone better line up a bunch of motor homes and/or local lodging if they really want to pull this off.

Not just for "at the track"; but, for during the week(s) that all this "Vegas Racing" is going on. I'm guessing a lot of riders will need to become "west coast based" during this time...and then there's the current discussion about banning domestic commercial air travel...so...

Many riders are east-coast based this time of year. Also, if you're interested in a full gate, you're gonna need some privateers. You're gonna be combing both coasts/having races for both regions for the 250s...I'm assuming.

Now, you're getting waaaaaaay above the 25-50 person per gathering numbers that we're being given from the various gov't entities (Boston just cut it down to 25...that'll migrate to other jurisdictions).

EI Dave is on to a really good point, tho...we'd have one helluva audience...if we get to do it.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.