40 plus ll results

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Edited Date/Time 8/2/2017 11:00am
50 plus rider john Grewe takes 2nd in first moto. Impressive.

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wsc96 8/1/2017 10:44pm
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Some recognisable names in those results for sure.
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teggers 8/2/2017 12:42am
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I think I saw some world champs in there? No?
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teggers wrote:
I think I saw some world champs in there? No?
No world champs but some 125 SX/MX and an AX champ in there. Some fast +40 dudes as well all through that list!

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tmauto769 8/2/2017 3:08am
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What I think is kind of funny is that 7 out of the top 10 (8 if Keefer is riding a 17) are riding bikes with a kick starter. I thought I read on here somewhere electric starts were for vet riders....
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tmauto769 wrote:
What I think is kind of funny is that 7 out of the top 10 (8 if Keefer is riding a 17) are riding bikes with...
What I think is kind of funny is that 7 out of the top 10 (8 if Keefer is riding a 17) are riding bikes with a kick starter. I thought I read on here somewhere electric starts were for vet riders....
......they are for slow vet riders!
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steveada 8/2/2017 4:50am
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What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar track conditions), ran faster lap times. Even great riders get old and slow.
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steveada wrote:
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar...
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar track conditions), ran faster lap times. Even great riders get old and slow.
I am pretty sure they cleaned up the track a little before the Supermini moto, not a full intermission but they had the tractors out in the corners on the web stream. 40+ was the 4th moto, and Supermini was 9th, they went right after the 30+ guys but I believe the rules for the class are different for entry.

But yeah Supermini was hauling ass, probably train harder too.
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steveada wrote:
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar...
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar track conditions), ran faster lap times. Even great riders get old and slow.
Polski934 wrote:
I am pretty sure they cleaned up the track a little before the Supermini moto, not a full intermission but they had the tractors out in...
I am pretty sure they cleaned up the track a little before the Supermini moto, not a full intermission but they had the tractors out in the corners on the web stream. 40+ was the 4th moto, and Supermini was 9th, they went right after the 30+ guys but I believe the rules for the class are different for entry.

But yeah Supermini was hauling ass, probably train harder too.
This.
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steveada wrote:
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar...
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar track conditions), ran faster lap times. Even great riders get old and slow.
Polski934 wrote:
I am pretty sure they cleaned up the track a little before the Supermini moto, not a full intermission but they had the tractors out in...
I am pretty sure they cleaned up the track a little before the Supermini moto, not a full intermission but they had the tractors out in the corners on the web stream. 40+ was the 4th moto, and Supermini was 9th, they went right after the 30+ guys but I believe the rules for the class are different for entry.

But yeah Supermini was hauling ass, probably train harder too.
They were running faster than 30+ also. Matusek, the winner of 30+ would have been battling for 6th or 7th in supermini based only on lap times.
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motomike137 8/2/2017 7:41am
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Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
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steveada wrote:
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar...
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar track conditions), ran faster lap times. Even great riders get old and slow.
The track is more suited to the super mini's imho. To call those guys slow is a stretch Smile
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40+ has past champs, but I don't think you can ride 30+ if you scored pro points or something like that so I would think some 40 plussers might be faster but they are getting old. Grewe is 51!

I am not discrediting the Supermini, they are the kids that are one step from the pro riding 170lb bikes that are probably every bit as fast as a 250f...
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motomike137 wrote:
Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
Better then Dubach or Parker ?
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steveada wrote:
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar...
What I found amazing was that there were a lot of fast guys in 40+, but supermini 2 which ran the very next moto (so similar track conditions), ran faster lap times. Even great riders get old and slow.
Do you mean 30+? The class where former points-earning pros are not allowed?



SWVoffroad (MD) 8/2/2017 8:58am
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Masterpool was flying in Supermini. Had TM ever won a moto at the ranch before yesterday?
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motomike137 wrote:
Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
mb60 wrote:
Better then Dubach or Parker ?
I would say Kevin Foley or Kevin Walker has them covered at this point. Robbie Neely has several also.
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mx317 8/2/2017 9:09am
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tmauto769 wrote:
What I think is kind of funny is that 7 out of the top 10 (8 if Keefer is riding a 17) are riding bikes with...
What I think is kind of funny is that 7 out of the top 10 (8 if Keefer is riding a 17) are riding bikes with a kick starter. I thought I read on here somewhere electric starts were for vet riders....
kkawboy14 wrote:
......they are for slow vet riders!
Like the winner Mike Brown?

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motomike137 wrote:
Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
mb60 wrote:
Better then Dubach or Parker ?
Dubach is #1
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motomike137 wrote:
Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
mb60 wrote:
Better then Dubach or Parker ?
kxking wrote:
Dubach is #1
Kevin Walker has 13 vet titles, Kevin Foley has 8 vet titles and 2 A class titles for 10 total, Doug Dubach has 9 vet titles and John Grewe has 5 will probably add 1 more this year.
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NorCal 50+ 8/2/2017 10:59am
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Is Grewe the same guy who used to be a tester for Cycle World (I think it was) back in the day?
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Any way to watch 40+ race? Can't find it on RacerTV.
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Madmax31 8/2/2017 11:32am
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
Is Grewe the same guy who used to be a tester for Cycle World (I think it was) back in the day?
Pretty sure. I thought he was like 60, but heard them say he's only 51.
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motomike137 wrote:
Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
mb60 wrote:
Better then Dubach or Parker ?
Kevin Walker
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motomike137 wrote:
Grewe is making a case for being the best Vet rider ever at LL's.
mb60 wrote:
Better then Dubach or Parker ?
brocsdad wrote:
Kevin Walker
Let's not talk about that guy.
Alessi ran the same laptimes on supermini as 250B/450B in 2003.

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