2T Riding Tips

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11/1/2018 5:37 PM

I spoke with my wallet and dropped the 450 and picked up an 06 RM250 that I am slowly rebuilding (check out the thread in bike builds).

I haven't ridden a 2T since I was on 80's back in 04 then went to 250 4t and most recently 450 4t. For those of you that have jumped back and forth between 4t and 2t, what riding tips do you have to getting used to a 2t again?

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11/1/2018 5:45 PM

Outside lines and rear brake tapping to drop the front end when jumping. Snappy left fingers on 125’s as well

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11/1/2018 5:47 PM

Speaking with a wallet is reserved for brandy new two strokes......whistling

Shift more, and carry momentum

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Tomac and/or Anderson for 2020.....

11/1/2018 5:55 PM

PIN IT. Shift up to go faster. Shift down to go slower.

*Actual results may vary.

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11/1/2018 5:58 PM

Rev it to the moon

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11/1/2018 6:23 PM

Hit the pipe often.!

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11/1/2018 6:25 PM

Don't shift to go faster. Just put a 500 in it and leave it in 3rd. Photo

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11/1/2018 6:41 PM

Just be smooth, if you’re reving the piss out of it all the time past the power band you’re not going to go anywhere, keep it in the power and keep momentum up. Lean forward a little more on jumps as well, if you’re brake tapping every jump you’re not doing it right. Don’t overthink it, a dirtbike is a dirtbike, just ride the thing and have fun!

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11/1/2018 6:50 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/1/2018 10:50 PM

JM485 wrote:

Just be smooth, if you’re reving the piss out of it all the time past the power band you’re not going to go anywhere, keep it ...more

^This^ Most important thing is keeping it in the meat of the powerband & having momentum in turns. The 2t is my weapon of choice & always puts a huge grin when I ride one. Have fun !

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Speak softly and carry a big stick.

11/1/2018 7:00 PM

Mix gas!!!!

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11/1/2018 7:19 PM
Edited Date/Time: 11/1/2018 7:20 PM

just ride harder, it’ll be both more work and fun than you remember

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11/1/2018 10:23 PM

The biggest difference you will notice is the smile on your face..

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11/2/2018 12:01 AM

the sound and the pull on your pants will tell you when your doing it right. Save the sport mix gas enjoy

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11/2/2018 12:10 AM

Ride it like you stole it

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11/2/2018 3:31 AM
Edited Date/Time: 11/2/2018 3:39 AM

Try not to abuse the clutch. I see way too many people crack the throttle in turns while they have the clutch pulled in and/or they pull the clutch in several times in a corner which isn’t smooth at all. First, roll the throttle THROUGHOUT the turn, and then slip, not completely disengage, the clutch as needed. Getting on the throttle a split second earlier than you want the power to hit will break that initial rev, get rid of the initial bog, increase momentum, increase balance, and make you corner a lot faster. For the most part, a two stroke will slightly bog as soon as you open the throttle, but rolling it on faster than you want it it to hit will put you one step ahead. Keeping the throttle open just slightly through the first half of the turn makes all the difference, then she’s primed up and ready to eat for the second half. I’ve had a 07 rm250, a 13 and 14 250sx, currently have a yz250, and I race A class. You also need to shift a lot. Being smooth on a two stroke is a technique.

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11/2/2018 5:05 AM

Step 1. Sell it

Step 2. Buy a modern 4 stroke.

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11/2/2018 6:56 AM

Deftly make sure you enjoy having fun riding again because it revived it for me keep your momentum up shift often use the clutch Inflow with the Mike take every line a 4 stroke can't take and because of that ....be smiling the whole time and welcome to the fold lol
Honest to god I made the switch back to 2 strokes in 2010 after a "honda-bog" over a large peaked double at Perris which ended up with some severe injures that took over a year to get right again BUT i have not looked back since I'm happy every single time I go riding ....... I don't miss the 4 strokes at all!!

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11/2/2018 7:25 AM

If it doesn't sound like its blowing up, you're not doing it right. WFO 24/7.

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11/2/2018 11:00 AM

After riding a 4T for nearly a decade and then switching to my current 2T, the hardest thing to get used to for me was lack of engine braking.

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11/2/2018 11:13 AM

49weasel wrote:

Step 1. Sell it

Step 2. Buy a modern 4 stroke.

haha....how about fuck no?

I sold my 16' Kawi 450 , because I was riding my 06' RM 250 way more , and the Kawi was collecting dust. For some people ( like me ).....there is just no comparison. I'll take my 250 2 stroke 100 out of 100 times. AND......in longer moto's , I am most definitely faster on my 2 strokes , all while having a shit ton more fun.

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11/2/2018 11:55 AM

49weasel wrote:

Step 1. Sell it

Step 2. Buy a modern 4 stroke.

If you want to do well, listen to this guy

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

11/2/2018 12:09 PM

ArizonaKevin wrote:

I spoke with my wallet and dropped the 450 and picked up an 06 RM250 that I am slowly rebuilding (check out the thread in bike ...more

I'm 52 and built a 06 RM250 for just a fun bike. Have not rode my KTM factory edition since lol. Here is a link to my build. Motocross originally was fun not stressful. You made the right choice.

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Bike-Builds,46/Full-restore-build-2006-RM250,1348108?exclusive_forum_user=false&page=1

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11/2/2018 12:14 PM

Work on your fitness as well, they take a bit more energy to ride.

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11/2/2018 12:33 PM

Lightning78 wrote:

Deftly make sure you enjoy having fun riding again because it revived it for me keep your momentum up shift often use the ...more

First race bike was a 450. After that grenaded, I bought a 250 2t. Never rode a 2 stroke in my life before that. I was worried about the power band but after two track days I picked up where I left off.

1 - I am still not the greatest at shifting. You definitely have to shift a lot more.

2 - There isn't an engine brake. I blew so many damn corners when I first started.

3 - Run good fuel. 2 strokes love low led gas. And get good at jetting.

I race cross country so 2 strokes have the advantage over 4 out there all day.

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11/2/2018 12:34 PM

Two strokes are all about finesse and momentum. Even on a 250 two stroke. Forget about four stroke lines, turning, and braking.

You can outbrake four strokes. You can out turn four strokes. You CANT out torque a four stroke. With a two stroke you can dive in and out of turns, you can cut through the four stroke lines, you can float on top of braking chop. Inside lines straight into a jump are much more difficult compared to a four stroke.

Your left foot and and left hand need to be tap dancing and moving a lot more.

250 two strokes aren't mean to be screamed like a 125. They make their power in the mid range not redlined. Not many guys can ride a 250 like a 125 but it can be done. Its an art form.

Be prepared for some arm pump getting used to the two stroke again. Relax, grip with your knee's, focus on body position (sit FORWARD), and loosen your hand grip.

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11/2/2018 12:43 PM

2stroked wrote:

Two strokes are all about finesse and momentum. Even on a 250 two stroke. Forget about four stroke lines, turning, and ...more

Funny. When I had my 450, I always suffered from arm pump the first few motos and randomly throughout the day. Everytime I just on my 250, or any 2 stroke for that matter, arm pump isn't an issue.

OP- Smooth corners, carry as much speed as possible, learn to shift properly at the right times, get familiar with using the clutch and hold her wide open! You're going to have a blast. Best decision I made was selling my 450 to buy a 250 smoker.

Oh and OP- Technique, technique, technique!

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11/2/2018 1:07 PM

Start in 2nd gear.

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11/2/2018 1:09 PM

WFO and clutch slippage

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11/2/2018 1:13 PM

Canoe589 wrote:

After riding a 4T for nearly a decade and then switching to my current 2T, the hardest thing to get used to for me was lack of ...more

same with me, except it made me faster in corners, no pitching from engine braking like a 4 stroke etc.
FWIW I went from a 350sxf to a 17 20sx and I am no doubt faster, but more importantly, it is easily 2x's as fun...no exaggeration.

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11/2/2018 1:23 PM

I never stopped riding 2 strokes. I was lucky to always have a combination of both 2 and 4 strokes that I rode regularly. 250F and and a 250 2T, 250 2T and a 450, 450 and a 125, etc.

I've always said that the 250 2 stroke is my favorite all around bike...but also the most difficult to jump on and ride well if you are not on top of your game. It's easy to ride any 4 stroke.....125's are pretty safe because you really can't get around worth a shit until you are riding well and it's hard to accidentally get in trouble because it doesn't have the instant power of other sized bikes.

But 250 2 strokes you have to take it easy on at first...they feel so light and are so incredibly responsive with plenty of instant power and no engine braking. They don't feel as planted/connected to the track as a 4 stroke....you skip across stuff and slide around differently, you can change directions abruptly, square off things...all very different feeling than riding a 4 stroke. To me that feeling is better...it's more fun...it feels to me like riding should (me riding the bike....not me sort of guiding/folliwng the bike around). But it can be a handful and get you sideways quick if you aren't ready. So I say just be smooth and get used to the positive things the 2 stroke will do for you. You will love that bike...I went through 3 06 RM 250's before finally switching to a KTM 250 and now a TM.

No matter how fast I've gone on a 4 stroke I've never had the same sensational feel of hitting a rut or corner on the gas the way a 2 stroke will give you.

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