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Hey Guys,
When I was looking for a new bike I was well aware, that a 250 2 stroke will burn way more fuel than 250 4 stroke (mind you, I had a carburated one), but my last ride on my beloved RM was an eye opener. Full tank of gas gone in approx 40-45 minutes on a track. Is that normal? How much riding can you do on your 250 before you run out of gas?
When I was looking for a new bike I was well aware, that a 250 2 stroke will burn way more fuel than 250 4 stroke (mind you, I had a carburated one), but my last ride on my beloved RM was an eye opener. Full tank of gas gone in approx 40-45 minutes on a track. Is that normal? How much riding can you do on your 250 before you run out of gas?
Last weekend I went on a 3 day ride with my 16 KX450F. I burned just under 5 gallons of gas and put 5.7 hours on the bike.
My friends son burned almost 10 gallons over that same 3 days on his YZ85. But that kid is the freaking energizer bunny. No idea how many hours he put on the bike as he doesn't have a meter.
Four stroke I just brim the tank at the petrol station on the way and not care about running out. Two stroke it's filling the tank the night before and taking an extra two 5L cans of premix, and I've still run out.
The Shop
at home i'm getting closer to 35 mpg.
It's actually the main reason why the epa has got it in for two strokes and an important reason why all the modern four stroke mx bikes are fuel injected.
KTM are claiming dramatic fuel efficiency gains with their fi two stroke...that's the reason why...mostly...
Greenies really , really hate the idea of straight liquid hydrocarbons even venting to the air , let alone spilling all over the ground wherever you ride..
Yes two strokes use more fuel...that's a black mark, yes they burn oil and produce smoke ( dependant on a range of factors ) that's another black mark... But a very important black mark, the one that the epa was apparently likely to jack up over the most , was the constant spilling of raw fuel out of the carbourettor vent hoses, of which there are several , the one that leaks the most is the float bowl high level drain, which spills out raw fuel pretty much constantly when the bike is in motion on a rough and undulating track and frequently around corners depending on lean angle.
High float levels and or worn needle and seat would exacerbate the problem.
You might be quite surprised to find just how much raw fuel can be lost out of the vent hoses during a long Moto.
Next time you are at the track...have a look at some two strokes going by close up and see if yo can see fuel coming out of the vent hoses under the bike...
With the new KTM fuel injection system , that issue is completely iliminated , leading to much better fuel mileage , before you even get to the potential of fuel injection supplying optimally controlled fuel air ratios..
My friend said that this spillage ,presented a substantial problem as a complicated catching mechanism would be required and it would have to be capable of holding a fair bit of fuel.
That issue , along with the other black marks against the two stroke design hastened the development of four stroke bikes at that time , in that environment of the epa threat to ban two strokes.
Also the carbourettors used on pre fuel injected four strok mx bikes suffered less from the fuel spillage issues than the ones designed for two stroke bikes but I think I can be reasonably sure that the complete ilimination of necessary carburettor venting on fuel injected four strokes , played a significant part in their appeal to manufacturers , conscious of the ever pressing threat of stricter emission requirements...
In other words, the EPA doesn't like high carbon dioxide emissions due to high fuel consumption, and they hate smoke...but they REAlLLY hate straight liquid hydrocarbons vent to the atmospher or worse still...spilling all over the ground....Just Sayin....
Better go mix another drink
With that being said, I still prefer to ride my 2 stroke!
Pit Row
It's expensive to feed those thirsty beasts but it's also well worth it.
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