250 2 Stroke or 450

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12/25/2020 7:58 PM

I'm currently on a 19' husky tc250, and am thinking about changing to a 450. 80% of my riding is dunes, and only one or two track days a month. I've seen 450's preform phenomenally in the dunes, and i'm looking for some more power. I don't have any buddies who have a 450 i could try, but i've owned a yfz450 quad so i'm familiar with the power delivery. I know the 250 is better for me on the track, but since i ride track so little, would a 450 be a better overall bike for me? I also don't ride enough to justify owning 2 bikes.

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12/25/2020 8:00 PM

I think riding a 2 stroke in the dunes is a lot more fun than riding a 4 stroke

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12/25/2020 9:57 PM

Lightning78 wrote:

I think riding a 2 stroke in the dunes is a lot more fun than riding a 4 stroke

Cheaper to rebuild when you suck sand too!

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12/25/2020 10:50 PM

Ktm sells a 300 kit for the sx/tc id look into that

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12/26/2020 4:41 AM

I'm currently on a 450, awesome bike. But a 4 stroke in the sand is a bit off to me. They seem to plow or labor through it while a smoker seems to "get on top" if that makes any sense.

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12/26/2020 8:17 AM

Between my old 250 2-stroke and my 450FX, I'd take the FX everytime. The extra power is awesome, I do run a 2 link longer chain and move the rear wheel back 1 inch though. Photo

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12/26/2020 8:30 AM

I second the 450, it does feel a bit more laboring on the bike than a 250 but also less shifting and clutching and not as tiring. The newer 450's rip so hard I couldn't imagine them in the dunes. I have a new 450xcf and I am going to the dunes in a few weeks and can't wait.

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12/26/2020 11:25 AM

skeef wrote:

I second the 450, it does feel a bit more laboring on the bike than a 250 but also less shifting and clutching and not as ...more

Will the 450 be just as fun on the track or are they really as heavy and tiring as people make them out to be?

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12/26/2020 11:59 AM

300 kit 👍

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12/26/2020 12:08 PM

450 and it's not even close.

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12/26/2020 12:43 PM

I love 250 two strokes. But once I got my KX450F, my YZ250 sat mostly unused for about a year before I finally sold it. I’m getting older and lazier and the 450 suits my riding style better now.

It’s also not a big deal to do a top end on a four stroke. The piston kit was a few dollars more, and obviously there are a couple more expensive gaskets involved, and a cam chain. But it’s not like it costs thousands of dollars to do a top end as preventative maintenance assuming you can do the work yourself.

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12/26/2020 12:46 PM

There is nothing like a CR500 in the sand (I prefer the KX500 engine for hard pack). Rear wheel steering is a blast.

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12/26/2020 1:10 PM

Snag a 300 kit, Rk tek head, vforce 4 and a smart carb. That will turn your TC into a beast in the sand and it will still be awesome at the track!

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12/26/2020 1:20 PM

The 450 has more power and will still handle great which is better for the dunes. That being said, the last time I took a 450 (stock 06 crf450r) to the dunes, it puked half of the water out.

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12/26/2020 1:23 PM

skeef wrote:

I second the 450, it does feel a bit more laboring on the bike than a 250 but also less shifting and clutching and not as ...more

RL292 wrote:

Will the 450 be just as fun on the track or are they really as heavy and tiring as people make them out to be?

Well personally my 450 feels pretty heavy on the track but it's got a desert tank and 200lb guy on it. I ripped a 125sx the other day and I felt like I was scrubbing like stew out there, although the stability and power of my 450 makes it so much better. For me I ride 50/50 track and trails/desert, If I only rode track I would probably get a 250 2 stroke. But for trail riding nothing comes close to my bike. Maybe a 300 tpi but even then I love the 450 style of power.

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12/26/2020 1:28 PM

skeef wrote:

I second the 450, it does feel a bit more laboring on the bike than a 250 but also less shifting and clutching and not as ...more

RL292 wrote:

Will the 450 be just as fun on the track or are they really as heavy and tiring as people make them out to be?

skeef wrote:

Well personally my 450 feels pretty heavy on the track but it's got a desert tank and 200lb guy on it. I ripped a 125sx the ...more

I feel like I should mention this, the make or break for me between 2 & 4 stroke is you can ride lazy on a 4 stroke. 2 stroke you need to RIDE it or it can spit you off in a blink of an eye.

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12/26/2020 2:18 PM

RL292 wrote:

Will the 450 be just as fun on the track or are they really as heavy and tiring as people make them out to be?

skeef wrote:

Well personally my 450 feels pretty heavy on the track but it's got a desert tank and 200lb guy on it. I ripped a 125sx the ...more

skeef wrote:

I feel like I should mention this, the make or break for me between 2 & 4 stroke is you can ride lazy on a 4 stroke. 2 ...more

I think that will be a nice change of pace for me, i love the 250 but sometimes i get lazy and miss being able shift less and ride in the low end sometimes. I just wanted some insight about the 450 on the track before i pull the trigger on one

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12/26/2020 2:23 PM

Lightning78 wrote:

I think riding a 2 stroke in the dunes is a lot more fun than riding a 4 stroke

Coming from the guy who doesn't ride four strokes?

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12/27/2020 9:57 AM

Moran.

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12/27/2020 6:57 PM

450. I ride the 450 probably 4 times for every 1 time i ride the 250.

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12/27/2020 7:50 PM

Riding a 2 Stroke in the dunes over a 450 will make you a better overall rider in the long run in my opinion.

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