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For the record...
I read a few comments about the weight of the KTM350s Wet/Wet weight rating...245 pounds...full of fuel.
That is light! Especially when you realize it carries an honest 2 gallons of fuel at that weight.
This is where some clown spouts off about the CRFs or the YZFs published weight...that's Dry weight, btw...VERY "Dry"...
And I say...
Fill the tank and go weigh that pig!
Have you weighed a 450 before/after it goes out on the track...at...say...a Supercross?
I have.
245 is a pretty damn good number...and that's usually involving some Ti and Carbon!
Yes, a coupl'a "Works-Bikes" have made it to the limit...WITHOUT GAS.
Yes, we've built 197# 250Fs...at a PREMIUM!
I ain't no Katoom guy; however, I've watched the development of that bike for a while, now.
They've knocked it out of the Park!
No wonder the guys at FMF have been so "Tight-Lipped" about it (They've had one for a Loooooong Time!)
I'm jus' sayin'...
I read a few comments about the weight of the KTM350s Wet/Wet weight rating...245 pounds...full of fuel.
That is light! Especially when you realize it carries an honest 2 gallons of fuel at that weight.
This is where some clown spouts off about the CRFs or the YZFs published weight...that's Dry weight, btw...VERY "Dry"...
And I say...
Fill the tank and go weigh that pig!
Have you weighed a 450 before/after it goes out on the track...at...say...a Supercross?
I have.
245 is a pretty damn good number...and that's usually involving some Ti and Carbon!
Yes, a coupl'a "Works-Bikes" have made it to the limit...WITHOUT GAS.
Yes, we've built 197# 250Fs...at a PREMIUM!
I ain't no Katoom guy; however, I've watched the development of that bike for a while, now.
They've knocked it out of the Park!
No wonder the guys at FMF have been so "Tight-Lipped" about it (They've had one for a Loooooong Time!)
I'm jus' sayin'...
sheesh
And not one insult! A +++
Weight: tank full
450 Total Front/Rear Bias
Honda CRF450R 237 121/116 51/49%
Kawasaki KX450F 250 125/125 50/50%
KTM 450 SX-F 251 124/127 49.4/50.6%
Yamaha YZ450F 248 127/127 50/50%
Fuel capacity:
Honda 1.5 gal
Kawi 1.9 gal
KTM 2.1 gal
Yamaha 1.6 gal
The Shop
From Honda's site: Curb Weight - 234.8 pounds (Includes all standard equipment, required fluids and a full tank of fuel—ready to ride)
No one ever said anything about the published weigth. The numbers were taken from Dirt Riders bike test where they actually weighed the bikes.
So now your just another guy trying to use false info or any means possible to make the KTM 350 seem better than it actually is.
Go buy the KTM but don't lie to yourself to do it. The bike looks killer and probably rides awsome but BOTTOM LINE is that there are 450's that are lighter and the others are only 3-4 pounds heavier Period.
So if 245lbs. is light then we should all be thankfull that our 450's are basically considered light ,by you.. Oh and the 450's are faster.
I think the Honda feels the lightest.
The Yamaha feels pretty light, too...especially in the air.
I haven't seen a Race-Ready bike that weighs like this/these...amongst the Privateers, especially...go take a look at all the hardware that people add/change...
Weight: tank full
450 Total Front/Rear Bias
Honda CRF450R 237 121/116 51/49%
Kawasaki KX450F 250 125/125 50/50%
KTM 450 SX-F 251 124/127 49.4/50.6%
Yamaha YZ450F 248 127/127 50/50%
Fuel capacity:
Honda 1.5 gal
Kawi 1.9 gal
KTM 2.1 gal
Yamaha 1.6 gal
I'm pretty sure that's all from a magazine test, right? Box stock? All stock hardware?
Go compare your stock chain compared to a good chain...oops...KTM not-inclusive!
Go compare the weight of your Bars & Levers versus the hardware your bike came with...etc!
Did'ya add a glide-plate?
Bigger rotors?
Hinson Clutch?
Ya gotta give them credit where credit's due, that's all.
I've noticed that a lot LESS hardware get's "switched out" on the KTMs.
The new Katoom 350 is going to be more than a few pounds lighter than the average 450...in the real world.
It's carriesit's weight/mass pretty low, too.
It's has a bit less Inertial Effect (Engine-wise).
Oh, and then there's the "Button"...E-Start, anyone?
These things have already been stated by those that have tested it...and written about it.
That's the point.
245 with -2- Gallons of Fuel...that's a few pounds MORE in just fuel, alone, compared to the Honda...?
By the time you put some of the good hardware, like a decent chain(!), on the other bikes...?
No worries, I'm sure I'm wrong...I'll live with it.
I ride a 450.
It -IS- light.
It -IS- fast.
Thank you.
Great way to win an argument!
I am guessing you don't ride or just have no f-ing clue, or are just an argumentative asshole.
People who actually ride and race aren't typically so quick to be hateful and doubtful about competing machinery. However, keyboard only riders are very fast to jump to conclusions.
My favorite saying may be "Just for the sake of argument".
Pit Row
PS, one thing we should'nt ignore is that the 350 is heavier than one of the 450's :-)
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