23 KTM 250sx vs KTM 250xc price gap

BP247
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11/10/2022 8:44pm
Why is their such a price gap between the xc and sx models literally a 1850$ price gap? Seems extremely excessive. I haven't noticed a price gap from other brands or from KTM for that matter between moto and off-road models in years past.
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11/10/2022 10:36pm
It’s always been like that. For example 2022 250sx msrp was $8,799 and 2022 250xc msrp was $10,599. In 2021 it was $8,399 and $9,999.
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wrc777
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11/11/2022 4:39am
They charge what the market will bear. People are willing to pay more for the xc models. 250 sxf is $1k more than 250sx but 250xcf is only $400 more than the mx model and $300 cheaper than a 250xc.
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11/11/2022 4:53am Edited Date/Time 11/11/2022 5:16am
It’s always been like that. For example 2022 250sx msrp was $8,799 and 2022 250xc msrp was $10,599. In 2021 it was $8,399 and $9,999.
That was when the XC had EFI and e-start and the SX didn’t, which I think better justified the large price gap. Now that the components are much closer between the models (like the SXF vs XCF), it is a good question where the price delta comes from. It’s almost as if they added a standard MY23 price increase but didn’t look at the actual material costs of the machines to set price.
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11/11/2022 4:57am
That was when the XC had EFI and e-start and the SX didn’t, which I think better justified the large price gap. Now that the components...
That was when the XC had EFI and e-start and the SX didn’t, which I think better justified the large price gap. Now that the components are much closer between the models (like the SXF vs XCF), it is a good question where the price delta comes from. It’s almost as if they added a standard MY23 price increase but didn’t look at the actual material costs of the machines to set price.
They never do, it’s a market based price not a cost based price. KTM has more than enough margin on all the bikes to just set prices where they’d like
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11/11/2022 5:14am Edited Date/Time 11/11/2022 5:36am
Cygrace74 wrote:
They never do, it’s a market based price not a cost based price. KTM has more than enough margin on all the bikes to just set...
They never do, it’s a market based price not a cost based price. KTM has more than enough margin on all the bikes to just set prices where they’d like
Which seems to be working well for them! It’s not often we see leftover/closeout deals on the Austrian bikes.
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11/11/2022 5:39am
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other differences would be the 18'' rear, o-ring chain and kick stand. Like mentioned above now that both bikes are TBi and e-start I don't see the reason for the price gap other than they know us woods guys will pay more for the XC model.
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11/11/2022 5:56am
BP247 wrote:
Why is their such a price gap between the xc and sx models literally a 1850$ price gap? Seems extremely excessive. I haven't noticed a price...
Why is their such a price gap between the xc and sx models literally a 1850$ price gap? Seems extremely excessive. I haven't noticed a price gap from other brands or from KTM for that matter between moto and off-road models in years past.
Odd isn't it? There is a $2150 price difference between these two models in Canada. It's insulting. It's cheaper to buy the 4-stroke XC-F 250, how is that?

Canadian MSRP on 2023 250s.

250 XC $12,299
250 SX $10,149
250XCF $11,849
250SXF $11499

Only a $350 difference between the XCF and SXF and $2150 between the XC and SX.
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11/11/2022 5:58am
Previously the XC models have held their value on resale much better but I wonder how that will work now that the SX has all the goodies too. There also is the 5 speed vs 6 speed deal but really its insane that there is almost $2k in price for a few hundred difference in parts. Its not like it costs more for KTM to put a larger tank vs a smaller tank on the bike.
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11/11/2022 8:52am
$2k pays for a lot of upgraded stuff on the SX over XC.
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11/11/2022 9:31am Edited Date/Time 11/11/2022 11:23am
As a vet+ West Coast grand prix racer, I always wanted the xc but couldn't justify the price gap even though I was part of their target market. I'm the guy that really should have had a 6-speed trans because I was racing off-road out west. Buying a new XC wasn't worth it to me, and used ones weren't worth what people were asking. So I stuck with the MX models, and will continue to do so.


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11/11/2022 10:05am
sam hain wrote:
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other...
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other differences would be the 18'' rear, o-ring chain and kick stand. Like mentioned above now that both bikes are TBi and e-start I don't see the reason for the price gap other than they know us woods guys will pay more for the XC model.
You couldn’t before either if they were fuel injected. The pumps have a different pn but it may just be the fuel sending unit that is in the xc but not the sx.
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11/11/2022 10:20am
sam hain wrote:
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other...
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other differences would be the 18'' rear, o-ring chain and kick stand. Like mentioned above now that both bikes are TBi and e-start I don't see the reason for the price gap other than they know us woods guys will pay more for the XC model.
6 speed versus a 5 speed transmission would be the biggest difference between the two bikes.

Maybe not worth such a big price gap but the 6 speed is nice to have for offroad.

Yamaha gives their 250x a different transmission from the motocross bike and still keeps it within a few hundred dollars. KTM should be more in line with that...
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11/11/2022 11:09am
sam hain wrote:
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other...
Supposedly you can't put an xc tank on an sx anymore for MY23, you have to buy the pump and tank not just the tank. Other differences would be the 18'' rear, o-ring chain and kick stand. Like mentioned above now that both bikes are TBi and e-start I don't see the reason for the price gap other than they know us woods guys will pay more for the XC model.
b_kowalsk wrote:
6 speed versus a 5 speed transmission would be the biggest difference between the two bikes. Maybe not worth such a big price gap but the...
6 speed versus a 5 speed transmission would be the biggest difference between the two bikes.

Maybe not worth such a big price gap but the 6 speed is nice to have for offroad.

Yamaha gives their 250x a different transmission from the motocross bike and still keeps it within a few hundred dollars. KTM should be more in line with that...
That's the odd thing. KTM is in line with their 4-strokes. The 250XCF is $350 more than the 250SXF 250 in Canada. The 250XC is $2150 more than the 250SX.
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11/11/2022 12:34pm
The general public will pay those prices, so I guess KTM figures, why not...

My local dealer had the first round of QTY 18 XC's come in. They were all sold and out the door in 3 days.

The next batch of close to 20 are do to arrive end of this month. There all spoken for. They also have a waiting list of others.
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11/16/2022 2:03pm Edited Date/Time 11/16/2022 2:04pm
Yet with the sx you get better quality rims, and a spare vented airbox cover...go figure.

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