21 yz 250

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4/18/2020 1:57 PM

hi do you know if yam upgrade the 2 stroke bike?

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4/18/2020 2:00 PM

They're adding one more stroke for 2021.

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4/18/2020 2:18 PM

I doubt it. They still sell very well with no r&d money spent on it since 2006. Unless KTM starts selling a heap more sx's than Yamaha sells yz's I think they will stay the same

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4/18/2020 2:20 PM

All new from the ground up!!!

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4/18/2020 2:21 PM

chump6784 wrote:

I doubt it. They still sell very well with no r&d money spent on it since 2006. Unless KTM starts selling a heap more sx's than Yamaha sells yz's I think they will stay the same

im sure KTM already sells way more SX then yamaha sells YZ's.

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4/18/2020 2:25 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/18/2020 2:27 PM

chump6784 wrote:

I doubt it. They still sell very well with no r&d money spent on it since 2006. Unless KTM starts selling a heap more sx's than Yamaha sells yz's I think they will stay the same

soggy wrote:

im sure KTM already sells way more SX then yamaha sells YZ's.

In Australia they don't, can't say for the rest of the world though. The last numbers I saw a couple years ago were the top 10 selling new motocross bikes, the yz250 was on that list, the 250sx wasn't

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4/18/2020 2:28 PM

BNG enough said.

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4/18/2020 2:57 PM

I would love to see that, but I am also 99% sure they aren't. I think when Yamaha stop selling them they will just quit making 2 strokes. Hope it doesn't happen anytime soon, best bike I've ever ridden/had.

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Heavy Hitter

4/18/2020 3:14 PM

No reason to. It’s a great, staple point bike that everyone can have fun on! The only reason to change is when the plastics get out of date every 10 years or so.cool

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4/18/2020 3:22 PM

Why would they, it’s a great bike and has been paid for probably 5 times

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4/18/2020 4:18 PM

Back in 2012 I was okay with the YZ being identical to an 06. Seemed smart since they still sold a ton. But damn, that model is 15 years old! Imagine 20 years ago buying a brand “new” 2000 YZ, but it’s a 1986 model with BNG.

I had a YZ250 not too long ago and it really does feel dated when you ride it. The ergos, feel, etc. 15 years is too damn long, I want a new YZ to drool over.

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

4/18/2020 4:32 PM

Best forks in the industry

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4/18/2020 4:38 PM

I wish they would do something with it like maybe a counterbalanced engine would be nice but at this point I just hope they keep making them.

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4/18/2020 6:05 PM

Best thing yamaha could do with the yz at this point would be to update to some 4 stroke parts that would help them eliminate extra inventory that the yz creates.
Swingarm, linkage, rear brake carrier, axle, hub, fork lugs and axle, number plate and front fender. Anything they can bolt on. Right now the swingarma won't bolt on but if they consider this next time they revamp the 4 strokes they can make it work.

Just doing that would get a new wave of yz owners off their old bike and into the dealer to get the new model all while saving yamaha money.

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4/18/2020 6:08 PM

Luke_Richards wrote:

Why would they, it’s a great bike and has been paid for probably 5 times

I agree, they have to have that production line so dialed in after 15 years of making the exact same product. I bet when it comes time to switch the line over to make 2 strokes all the senior management goes on vacation cause they know there won't be issues.

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4/18/2020 7:54 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Back in 2012 I was okay with the YZ being identical to an 06. Seemed smart since they still sold a ton. But damn, that model is 15 years old! Imagine 20 years ago buying a brand “new” 2000 YZ, but it’s a 1986 model with BNG.

I had a YZ250 not too long ago and it really does feel dated when you ride it. The ergos, feel, etc. 15 years is too damn long, I want a new YZ to drool over.

Its still probably the best suspended 250 2 stroke out there.

When it is not broken, do you really need to change it?

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4/18/2020 8:06 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Back in 2012 I was okay with the YZ being identical to an 06. Seemed smart since they still sold a ton. But damn, that model is 15 years old! Imagine 20 years ago buying a brand “new” 2000 YZ, but it’s a 1986 model with BNG.

I had a YZ250 not too long ago and it really does feel dated when you ride it. The ergos, feel, etc. 15 years is too damn long, I want a new YZ to drool over.

mxracerjohn250 wrote:

Its still probably the best suspended 250 2 stroke out there.

When it is not broken, do you really need to change it?

If we had that mentality we would have zero progression. That's why I did not even consider the YZ and bought the KTM. I want to support a company who still develops the 2 stroke.

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4/18/2020 8:18 PM
Edited Date/Time: 4/18/2020 8:46 PM

Johnny Ringo wrote:

Back in 2012 I was okay with the YZ being identical to an 06. Seemed smart since they still sold a ton. But damn, that model is 15 years old! Imagine 20 years ago buying a brand “new” 2000 YZ, but it’s a 1986 model with BNG.

I had a YZ250 not too long ago and it really does feel dated when you ride it. The ergos, feel, etc. 15 years is too damn long, I want a new YZ to drool over.

mxracerjohn250 wrote:

Its still probably the best suspended 250 2 stroke out there.

When it is not broken, do you really need to change it?

After 20 years, yes. I just want some updated ergos and misc parts!!

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Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

4/18/2020 8:24 PM

The yz 250 is the best bike made today imo, it is a proven platform that works good for everything. I currently ride a ktm150sx and have rode the 250sx, they are awesome bikes but my next 2 stroke will be blue most likely.

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4/18/2020 8:45 PM

That YZ 250 platform could go down in history as the best all around motocross bike ever. Name one other bike that has been right there for so long.

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4/18/2020 8:54 PM

The yz250 is really an awesome bike. They are so simple and easy. The yz125 is killer too. They are definitely an acquired taste though. When you get one you learn to love it. Very few people have owned yz250s and been unhappy.

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4/18/2020 9:00 PM

mxracerjohn250 wrote:

That YZ 250 platform could go down in history as the best all around motocross bike ever. Name one other bike that has been right there for so long.

RMZ450 would be next on that list.
I know there's plenty of haters who say it's a dinosaur, but honestly it's a great all round bike and has been a competitive race bike in nearly the same configuration for a decade.

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4/18/2020 9:06 PM

BNG. Bold new graphics
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4/19/2020 8:21 AM

until all the japanese OEMs bring back 2-strokes i doubt yamaha will ever upgrade the YZs..

it will follow the fate of the yamaha blaster and warrior quads which were more or less the same before they discontinued them. think about how much money they made by just re-hashing the same quad year after year without any R&D

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4/19/2020 8:23 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/19/2020 8:46 AM

2025 new chassis and revisited motor

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rarararaataatatatata

4/19/2020 9:10 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/19/2020 9:11 AM

MZ193 wrote:

2025 new chassis and revisited motor

2125 new chassis and revisited motor

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4/19/2020 9:13 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/19/2020 9:14 AM

vtec wrote:

until all the japanese OEMs bring back 2-strokes i doubt yamaha will ever upgrade the YZs..

it will follow the fate of the yamaha blaster and warrior quads which were more or less the same before they discontinued them. think about how much money they made by just re-hashing the same quad year after year without any R&D

Its sad but yeah sooner or later they will be canned. Only thing that seems to have extended their existence is the x models. They wouldnt "develop" those x models to can the 2 strokes a yr or 2 later. So maybe they have a while left yet.

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4/19/2020 9:22 AM

yz133rider wrote:

Its sad but yeah sooner or later they will be canned. Only thing that seems to have extended their existence is the x models. They wouldnt "develop" those x models to can the 2 strokes a yr or 2 later. So maybe they have a while left yet.

They also just released a fully updated 85 and all-new 65

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4/19/2020 9:26 AM

vtec wrote:

until all the japanese OEMs bring back 2-strokes i doubt yamaha will ever upgrade the YZs..

it will follow the fate of the yamaha blaster and warrior quads which were more or less the same before they discontinued them. think about how much money they made by just re-hashing the same quad year after year without any R&D

yz133rider wrote:

Its sad but yeah sooner or later they will be canned. Only thing that seems to have extended their existence is the x models. They wouldnt "develop" those x models to can the 2 strokes a yr or 2 later. So maybe they have a while left yet.

Dirty Points wrote:

They also just released a fully updated 85 and all-new 65

The small bikes seem more secure because there isnt really any alternatives. Good that they finally brought them out of the 90s though!

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4/19/2020 9:43 AM
Edited Date/Time: 4/19/2020 9:44 AM

How about they improve the durability of the transmissions? The clutch could use an update, too.

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