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Back to the original question, I think you will see most new bikes announced a little later this year due to supply/production/shipping delays. The OEM's want to announce a bike and start delivery soon after to strike while the excitement is high. You wouldn't want to announce a new bike and then drive customers to a dealer to find nothing to buy. With our short attention spans and the I want it now daddy attitude most people with money in their hands have, you would just be selling bikes for the competitors if just announced bike was not there to purchase. The bikes were pretty much set a few years back so what was decided then should still be in the works with a tweak here and there.
I don’t modify my bikes (outside of spark arrestor, some armor, radiator fan)...I run stock gearing, stock suspension (which is why I keep buying Yamaha’s)...do you think the 21 YZ250FX has enough top end without giving up enough low end torque to still be manageable in the slow/techny stuff (right now I’m on a 21 YZ450FX...and the lower tuner app is what I’ll use in the techy stuff to take away the 450 hit, and 2nd gear is almost cheating on this bike when traction is at a premium...but it doesn’t eliminate the rotating mass of the motor)...I just want to race what I buy.
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I said “very interesting”...that’s all.
Any-hoo...
I -have not- seen a radically different 450 motor. There are new electronics and features for the tech minded. Like you’ve seen in the current FE.
Frame: Changes to the shapes of the cast/forged frame pieces and tubing. Motor mount orientation is changed (different stiffness/flex attributes). The swing-arm pivot area of the frame is entirely different shape-wise (the forgings/castings I mentioned).
Shock: it’s HUGE(body/res). It’s not air. It looks like you can actually adjust the new huge compression adjuster by hand while your on the bike (big wing-nut looking adjuster where the Hi-Speed currently is). Forks appeared to be a lot like what were currently getting.
As others have said, they hide the bike behind current bodywork.
The company will still manufacture engines and parts for Yamaha Europe with new assembly lines supplied by Bosch , but a new factory has been built to supply fully assembled Fantic offroad bikes ( 50 , 125 2s and 4s , 250 4s all Euro 5 approved ) on 2 lines , 4 lines for Fantic electric vehicles , and R&D department for factory riders . Minarelli continues also to supply to other companies , like Beta and Sherco , TUV approved homologation services for bikes ( emissions and all the other stuff ) , Fantic CEO wants slowly to stop buying engines from Yamaha and build everything in-house for their offroad models ( XC and XE ) , the target is to bring back Fantic to the 'golden age' when almost everything was made in Italy . They calculated a growth of +40% in a couple of years for Minarelli-Fantic business .
Fantic now is based in Italy with italian CEO , management , engineers and employees but owned by a chinese company .
Another thing "if brand x made 350f or a 150 I would buy it in a heartbeat" well both those models are available so go buy one.
I don't believe the 2021.5 REs kept it, correct?
I also remember Luis Correia racing a 250 YZF with Athena 299 kit against the 450's at the WEC a few years ago. I wonder if that kit is still available and how does compare to a 350?
Not taking a dig at you TeamGren I understand you'll lose your insider status if you spill the beams ORRRRRR if you do spill it and nothings changed, the vital trolls will use the search feature amd find this thread and chastise what you said if its inaccurate.
Nobody wins at the laundromat 😂😂
I think the best solution is either create a burner account and tell all or pass the info on to someone to do it for you lol.
Can we all agree on this strategy?
That head with the 280cc big bore kit and a single sided low boy titanium head and mid pipe white bros full carbon fiber exhaust and let me tell you, that bike RIPPED!!! I had a nearly new 04 CRF250 also that I was gonna use as a practice bike and I put an identical Athena 280cc kit I picked up for it. I put my 07 head on the 04 and it had a full FMF system on it but it was nowhere near as fast as my 07 was. Holy shitballs my 07 was not only fast, it was Torquey and dam close to a 450 and the 04 bike had nothing for it which made it not so great for a practice bike.
My 07 was a lot faster and stronger than even my buddy's 2012 KTM 350. Unfortunately it had a good amount of engine braking… ..it ran very much like my 99 YZ400 nearly identical in power and torque but A LOT LIGHTER! I loved that 07 bike till it literally almost killed me one day in a crash at Perris.
If done correctly, the Athena 280 (for hondas only) and 290 kits for the other manufacturers. One thing I made sure to do was run top end power focused hot cams with my big bore kits. I ran the same can (stage 2 or 3) in both bikes, yes I removed that custom cam from the TMR head and used the hot cam since I already had it and I was very pleased with the results. I did this because the big bore kits usually push the power down lower and my logic was to run top end focused cams in order to spread out/broaden the power in both my 04 amd 07.
This was a magic combination in both bikes.
Awesome profile name!!
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