2022 TM racing pictures

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Edited Date/Time 4/9/2022 9:57am
Tm released pictures of the 2022 models






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Ryan625 11/24/2021 8:43am
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I’d love to have a 144 and 250 😍
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stone881 11/24/2021 7:53pm
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Sign me up for the 300 four stroke. The best news is that the euro is crashing hard against the dollar, so the bikes will be at a significant discount for gringos!
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Chris99Flannery 11/24/2021 9:50pm
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stone881 wrote:
Sign me up for the 300 four stroke. The best news is that the euro is crashing hard against the dollar, so the bikes will be...
Sign me up for the 300 four stroke. The best news is that the euro is crashing hard against the dollar, so the bikes will be at a significant discount for gringos!
Logged in only to upvote this. Right on
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Broseph 11/24/2021 9:58pm
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Did TM just go to TBI on their FI 2 strokes? I see TPI provisions in the cylinder casting, but no injectors. And the fuel line appears to go to the throttle body.
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KiwiBermRailer 11/24/2021 10:07pm
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metal_miracle wrote:
other side [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519579/s1200_260223301_6516933625046572_5164498493921444747_n.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519577/s1200_260223734_6516933321713269_4034491643519979501_n.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519574/s1200_260294315_6516936555046279_6915443050713294586_n.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519576/s1200_260300738_4924610787583178_8283827581312698501_n.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519575/s1200_260322945_4924613804249543_1963542910704525067_n.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519578/s1200_260354947_6516967655043169_699151058629371597_n.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/24/519580/s1200_260413491_6516981075041827_5900094955853559333_n.jpg[/img]
other side







Hard yes!
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tek14 11/24/2021 10:24pm
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Broseph wrote:
Did TM just go to TBI on their FI 2 strokes? I see TPI provisions in the cylinder casting, but no injectors. And the fuel line...
Did TM just go to TBI on their FI 2 strokes? I see TPI provisions in the cylinder casting, but no injectors. And the fuel line appears to go to the throttle body.
Yes by sound of news they went to Fi on their 2-strokes. We will see KTM coming later next year with similar TBI system.
There is also this one:
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Minarelli-300-2T-Injecte…

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Dirty Points 11/24/2021 10:29pm
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Broseph wrote:
Did TM just go to TBI on their FI 2 strokes? I see TPI provisions in the cylinder casting, but no injectors. And the fuel line...
Did TM just go to TBI on their FI 2 strokes? I see TPI provisions in the cylinder casting, but no injectors. And the fuel line appears to go to the throttle body.
tek14 wrote:
Yes by sound of news they went to Fi on their 2-strokes. We will see KTM coming later next year with similar TBI system. There is...
Yes by sound of news they went to Fi on their 2-strokes. We will see KTM coming later next year with similar TBI system.
There is also this one:
https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Minarelli-300-2T-Injecte…

Minarelli = Yamaha/Fantic
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jeffro503 11/24/2021 11:34pm
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I have always had a sweet spot for the TM's. They are just impressive machine's.
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Broseph 11/25/2021 8:07am
11/25/2021 8:07am Edited Date/Time 11/25/2021 1:46pm
Their 2 stroke FI was TPI last year. Looks like TBI this year (unless this is just photoshopped from the carb version and someone forgot to add injectors).

Last year’s TPI:


This year’s TBI?


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Bearuno 11/25/2021 10:01pm
11/25/2021 10:01pm Edited Date/Time 11/25/2021 10:38pm
metal_miracle wrote:
The rear shock [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/11/25/519778/s1200_2022_shock.jpg[/img]
The rear shock

The rear fuel tank on the TM 4Ts made for 'interesting' packaging and a unique Shock Reservoir and adjuster and top shock mount set up.

Looks like (in other pictures) that they've now elected to use much the same shock and top mount set up on the 2ts. I've not got too close to TMs in the last year or two, my mate that races them moved away, so I'm not sure when they went to that set up on the 2ts.

As ever, TMs are gorgeous machines, and, I could look at their frame builds and welding, for hours. I think, at one time here in OZ, they were cheaper to buy than equivalent model KTMs - I'm not sure of prices now.

The seeming change from TPI to TBI is interesting - I'm sure a few people will have a field day with that. Woohoo
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chump6784 11/25/2021 11:58pm
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Bearuno wrote:
The rear fuel tank on the TM 4Ts made for 'interesting' packaging and a unique Shock Reservoir and adjuster and top shock mount set up. Looks...
The rear fuel tank on the TM 4Ts made for 'interesting' packaging and a unique Shock Reservoir and adjuster and top shock mount set up.

Looks like (in other pictures) that they've now elected to use much the same shock and top mount set up on the 2ts. I've not got too close to TMs in the last year or two, my mate that races them moved away, so I'm not sure when they went to that set up on the 2ts.

As ever, TMs are gorgeous machines, and, I could look at their frame builds and welding, for hours. I think, at one time here in OZ, they were cheaper to buy than equivalent model KTMs - I'm not sure of prices now.

The seeming change from TPI to TBI is interesting - I'm sure a few people will have a field day with that. Woohoo
At the end of 2012 I was tossing up between a TM 250 or ktm 250sx, the TM was the same price as a yz, around 10.5k. Ended up with a left over 2012 ktm for less though. I'm not even sure if TM is even imported to Australia anymore. A mate of mine was supposed to be sponsored by them a few years back and never received a bike from them, he ended up racing his yz the whole year while they kept promising the bikes were on their way
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chuckdavies 11/26/2021 1:22am
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Bearuno wrote:
The rear fuel tank on the TM 4Ts made for 'interesting' packaging and a unique Shock Reservoir and adjuster and top shock mount set up. Looks...
The rear fuel tank on the TM 4Ts made for 'interesting' packaging and a unique Shock Reservoir and adjuster and top shock mount set up.

Looks like (in other pictures) that they've now elected to use much the same shock and top mount set up on the 2ts. I've not got too close to TMs in the last year or two, my mate that races them moved away, so I'm not sure when they went to that set up on the 2ts.

As ever, TMs are gorgeous machines, and, I could look at their frame builds and welding, for hours. I think, at one time here in OZ, they were cheaper to buy than equivalent model KTMs - I'm not sure of prices now.

The seeming change from TPI to TBI is interesting - I'm sure a few people will have a field day with that. Woohoo
Still the case in the UK, albeit by not as much as last year:

2022 TM 125 £7495

https://tmukonline.com/model-range-presentation/model-range-main/tm-rac…

2022 KTM 125 £7499

https://www.gear4motorcycles.co.uk/motorcycles/new-ktm-motorcycles/ktm-…
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Bearuno 11/26/2021 2:19am
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chump6784 wrote:
At the end of 2012 I was tossing up between a TM 250 or ktm 250sx, the TM was the same price as a yz, around...
At the end of 2012 I was tossing up between a TM 250 or ktm 250sx, the TM was the same price as a yz, around 10.5k. Ended up with a left over 2012 ktm for less though. I'm not even sure if TM is even imported to Australia anymore. A mate of mine was supposed to be sponsored by them a few years back and never received a bike from them, he ended up racing his yz the whole year while they kept promising the bikes were on their way
They've got a website up. There's no NSW Shops listed. 3 QLD, 3 Victorian and one in WA. With "Motorcross" as the heading to click onto, for Motocross. Whistling

2021s found on the site. A 300EN FI is listed at $16290, a Carb'd one $15790 -- Yikes! But, I have near the same 'Yikes' with a lot of bike prices, of any brand. Such are the times : the numbers only go upwards.

I wish the Hall family still were the importers of TM. RIP , John Hall.

As for general pricings on 2ts, I've not checked for a while, but, here in OZ we have the bizarre thing where, with most manufacturers RRPs, on comparable capacity and type bikes , the 2ts are priced higher than the 4ts. Cripes, I think Yamaha had higher prices on the YZ250, over the YZ250F!

Our distributors here certainly know how to bleed 2 stroke enthusiasts dry. KTM / KTHusky/ KTGG, especially so. Though, as I pointed out, Yamaha OZ, certainly know how to charge for a slightly updated 2005 model bike.
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JMX82 11/26/2021 3:05am
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I'm bit skeptical about TBI because as far as I know it doesn't pass Euro5 emission standard and you have to pass that if you are going to sell road legal enduro model in Europe. My guess is that the picture is photoshopped or it's just a mock up bike built for photoshoot
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Bearuno 11/26/2021 3:34am
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JMX82 wrote:
I'm bit skeptical about TBI because as far as I know it doesn't pass Euro5 emission standard and you have to pass that if you are...
I'm bit skeptical about TBI because as far as I know it doesn't pass Euro5 emission standard and you have to pass that if you are going to sell road legal enduro model in Europe. My guess is that the picture is photoshopped or it's just a mock up bike built for photoshoot
Checking chuckdavies UK importers links, they had the same pictures - but, as you say, they may not be a perfect representation of what is the final product. Or, they may well be exactly what they've to sell.

On checking the models, the ENs (Enduro models) list that oil injection is used. Maybe use of just that can enable them to pass standards, that may be different for a relatively low volume manufacturer, than a far higher volume manufacturing group that is KTM/ KTHusky / KTGG ?

It is interesting that it appears TM have gone from TPI to TBI. KTM tried it on with regards to TPI patents, but a Kiwi (Scurrilous individuals, many with a propensity towards over fondness for Sheep) fellow that goes by 'Uniflow' on KTM Talk ( Quite the Clever Clogs - Bloody hell it's hard for me to praise an Un Zudder, Bounders and Cads that they, largely, are) , had been making TPI type engines, well before KTM. So, KTM did Not get a patent for TPI . His evidence apparently stopped the patent process by KTM, and, gave a free hand for TM, and others, to use TPI.

Anyway, it's all interesting, and I'm for anything that keeps 2ts in production.
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JMX82 11/26/2021 3:42am
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They aren't mentioning anything about going away from TPI in their model information pages

" For 2022 we see some new changes and revisions, the most notable being an all-new 6 speed gearbox for all Enduro based variants, new crankshaft mounting tolerances, new wiring harnesses and new exhaust systems. There are also updates specific to the fuel injected variants which include, a new oil mixer tank, new wiring harnesses, a new exhaust system and advancements in the fuel injection system itself for better performance"

https://tmukonline.com/model-range-presentation/model-range-main/tm-rac…

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HerlingsFTW 4/9/2022 8:20am
4/9/2022 8:20am Edited Date/Time 4/9/2022 8:22am
someone already got a 2022 modell and can share how they ride?
On the official italian tm racing website are still the 2021 modells. sometimes I think they dont want to sell bikes..
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Markus422 4/9/2022 9:57am
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I’ve heard nothing but good things about the 144 over the years. 150s and 300s that aren’t just 125/250s that are flat on top with more bottom but rather faster versions of 125/250s with the same power spread are some of the most fun bikes you can ride.

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