2022 KTM 125/150 SX/XC CDI recall?

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3/16/2022 9:47 AM

Anybody have any information on this ? It is the same CDI from 2020 to 2022 now they want to lower rpm to prevent crank failure! Is this a bad batch of CDI'S that allows to much rpm for 2022 since they are not recalling 2020/2021? Or bad cranks for 2022? Any body experience any failure on there 2022?

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3/16/2022 10:58 AM

From what I heard they switched the crank supplier for the 2022 bikes, same crank 16-22, but the ones the 22s came fitted with are pressed too tight apparently, also heard something about being Taiwanese too.

I’ve heard and seen some weird failures with the 2022 batch of cranks. Patrick Evans seized two in a week on his SX bike, a local engine builder that’s highly knowledgeable with KTM two strokes had two seize during heat cycles. When I rebuilt my 16 last year with a brand new OEM crank I did notice the crank stuffers were different upon first glance than the 2 other cranks I had pulled out of my 16s originally.

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

3/16/2022 11:14 AM

Rickyisms wrote:

From what I heard they switched the crank supplier for the 2022 bikes, same crank 16-22, but the ones the 22s came fitted with ...more

That's pretty much what I expected since they superseded the crank part number for these bikes! Sounds like they should be recalling the crank not the CDI unit to mask the problem!

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3/16/2022 11:23 AM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2022 11:23 AM

Rickyisms wrote:

From what I heard they switched the crank supplier for the 2022 bikes, same crank 16-22, but the ones the 22s came fitted with ...more

NSP139 wrote:

That's pretty much what I expected since they superseded the crank part number for these bikes! Sounds like they should be ...more

IIRC the 16s had a problem with transmission gears chipping and KTMs recall fix was to put softer clutch springs in to lessen to load on the gears.

To my knowledge they have never done anything about the case issue on 17-18 (maybe 16s too) idler gear problem that requires you to buy a new set of cases.

I’ve had some personal experiences with KTM and seen lots of unexplained failures that have swayed my decision to not go for an Austrian bike the next time around. I love my 2016 125 and 150 but they have left a sour taste in my mouth many times from the corporate side.

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

3/16/2022 12:01 PM

This is definitely not good news I have a deposit on one I can't even buy but I don't think I want a bike with an inferior crank and slower than last year so I would have to buy a complete motor rebuild and a new ignition just to get it back to stock. This doesn't even sound legal on their side

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3/16/2022 1:06 PM

NSP139 wrote:

This is definitely not good news I have a deposit on one I can't even buy but I don't think I want a bike with an inferior ...more

Like anything else on the internet take it with a grain of salt, even though I’ve seen a fair amount of failures online, there’s probably so many more 2022 KTM smokers out there running around that are just fine.

Where did you hear this CDI recall? I did a little searching but couldn’t find anything.

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

3/16/2022 1:12 PM

Just found it on a Facebook group. Photo

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

3/16/2022 1:22 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2022 2:26 PM

Rickyisms wrote:

Just found it on a Facebook group. Photo

Yep that's it and the dealerships down here can't even sell any of them until they get it fixed with no ETA! Weird that they're admitting they're slowing the engine down to save the crank

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3/16/2022 2:33 PM

Just XC in USA?

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3/16/2022 2:53 PM

sandman768 wrote:

Just XC in USA?

No SX and the huskys also

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3/16/2022 2:57 PM

sandman768 wrote:

Just XC in USA?

NSP139 wrote:

No SX and the huskys also

Haven't looked up gas gas

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3/16/2022 3:05 PM

Damn I was going to the dealer tomorrow

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3/16/2022 3:49 PM

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to blow, it would have been yesterday! Photo

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3/16/2022 3:54 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

That's awesome to hear!

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3/16/2022 3:56 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

NSP139 wrote:

That's awesome to hear!

I just talked to Twisted development where I was going to take the motor they haven't heard of any massive failures but they also do recommend running at 32 to 1

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3/16/2022 4:03 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

NSP139 wrote:

That's awesome to hear!

NSP139 wrote:

I just talked to Twisted development where I was going to take the motor they haven't heard of any massive failures but they ...more

Just trying to figure out why KTM pulled their bikes off the market to change the CDI to save the crank! Nice bike!👍

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3/16/2022 4:08 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

How are you liking that pipe and exhaust combo? Ive got the same setup ordered for a MC125 and was curious what your thoughts are.

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3/16/2022 4:13 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that thing staying together, a young ripper grenaded his 22 and ktm is paying to replace the entire engine but now this recall so they don’t want to release the bike…

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3/16/2022 4:28 PM

To add, my 16 has (what I believe) is the same crank as 22s. Just turned over 19 hours at day in the dirt this weekend. Had an odd crank bearing failure at just over 18 hours but crank itself has been fine

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Unleaded tastes a little tangy. Supreme is kinda sour, and diesel tastes pretty good.

3/16/2022 4:32 PM

ben5020 wrote:

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that thing staying together, a young ripper grenaded his 22 and ktm is paying to replace the ...more

That sucks… but at least Ktm is making it right. I will stop into WMR in Stuart Fla. they are a high level KtM shop, see what they have to say… maybe they just remap the stock ECU? I have only ever had 1 issue with a KTM failure, And KTM stepped up and covered it when they bike had over 40 hrs on it.

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3/16/2022 4:40 PM

Atkinson wrote:

How are you liking that pipe and exhaust combo? Ive got the same setup ordered for a MC125 and was curious what your thoughts ...more

First ride with it was yesterday, perked up the power slightly across the board, added a slight amount of overrev, which the bike needed IMO..nothing earth shattering… The stock KtM system is very good, this is mostly so I can keep the stock pipe & silencer mint for when I sell the bike. Always a good idea to have a spare pipe for a 2 stroke on hand.

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3/16/2022 4:49 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

ben5020 wrote:

I wouldn’t hold my breath on that thing staying together, a young ripper grenaded his 22 and ktm is paying to replace the ...more

sandman768 wrote:

That sucks… but at least Ktm is making it right. I will stop into WMR in Stuart Fla. they are a high level KtM shop, see what ...more

These bikes don't have a ECU they have a CDI I already asked Twisted development if they can reflash it to get the RPMs back they said no. The dealerships here in California still don't know what KTM plans on doing for the CDI

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3/16/2022 4:53 PM

I don't want a motor grenading off the face of the jump or any situation it's just not safe I know we can't control that but a brand new bike should give you some sort of security! I also plan on doing motor work( only Port polish and head work) so there's no way KTM would give me any kind of warranty that's a hard pill to swallow if a bike blows up at 10 hours!

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3/16/2022 5:06 PM

sandman768 wrote:

I just turned over 10 hrs on my 22 125SX., wrung it’s neck yesterday in the deep sand down in Florida… if it was going to ...more

NSP139 wrote:

That's awesome to hear!

What ratio are you running for the sand?

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3/16/2022 5:17 PM

Rickyisms wrote:

To add, my 16 has (what I believe) is the same crank as 22s. Just turned over 19 hours at day in the dirt this weekend. Had an ...more

Just curious when did you put this crank in?

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3/16/2022 5:27 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2022 5:34 PM

NSP139 wrote:

What ratio are you running for the sand?

40:1, think I will go to 32:1 after reading this😂 25-33% 110 Sunoco leaded with 90 non ethanol. Jetting as per The jetting thread in here from Digger & RJ. I did richen my needle clip position to #3 as the track was deep, heavy sand that had just been bulldozed smooth…. So WFO until it got a little rougher later in the day. That was the first time I have had to adjust my jetting since using the thread settings. I have been on clip #2 in almost every temp & conditions with no issues but I played it safe going richer, the bike still ran great, but would slightly load up on the idling to enter the track, cleaned out on first straight.

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3/16/2022 8:02 PM

My son has had 2-3 new KTM 85-105 bikes each year since 2019, each bike had 60-170hrs with no crank issues, I’m lucky. This fall he moved up to 125s, 2022 125SX and a 2022 125XC. The SX bike lost the crank seal at 70hrs, while replacing the seal alone I noticed a tiny thermal stress near the crank rod where the thrust washer is, but no other damage, 20 hrs later that washer exploded and locked up the crank. Not a huge deal, that’s moto. Regardless, it’s still the best 125 made.

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3/16/2022 8:19 PM
Edited Date/Time: 3/16/2022 8:19 PM

In addition, if this letter and/or issue is only related to the 2022 CDI. I’ve had to aggressively zip tie my wiring harness to the CDI because it kept high rev bogging, others I know have had to do this and it’s not limited to the 2022 model, but is limited to the 125. The only thing I could figure out is how reverse tight the connection is, it’s like spring loaded, but pushes the connector away from the CDI box, not a good design, and the 125 does not use a rubber boot like the KTM 4 strokes do, weird, I dunno

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3/16/2022 9:27 PM

Guess me and my friend will be calling the local shop tomorrow, we’ve only got 9 hours on them but can’t tell it. tongue Photo

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3/16/2022 10:37 PM

You can use the below link and check your VIN# to confirm if there is a recall on your bike.

I sadly looked my 22 KTM150SX, and yes it has a recall as well. I am going to speak with my dealer and see if they can look into confirmed issues, I had a strange seizure at 14.4 hours that caused damage to the cylinder. Bike ran excellent up until it didn't... Jetting has been spot-on, rings gap and squish looked good. Just blows that at 14hrs I had to replace the entire top end, luckily was able to find a full 150kit in time to make my next race while I get the original cylinder repaired.

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