2022 CRF250R

loftyair
Profile picture for user loftyair
Posts
2769
Joined
7/3/2009
Location
riverside, CA US
loftyair 7/31/2021 12:34pm
7/31/2021 12:34pm
Yzf916 wrote:
229lbs is still 7lbs heavier than a KTM450sxf. Add 3# for Cone Valves. And the CRF is still. 4lbs heavier than a KTM 450sxf.
Dirty Points wrote:
For the how-ever-many-ieth time on this forum. Wet weight vs dry weight. Learn it.
Also, true weight, vs. claimed.
4
1
Dirty Points 7/31/2021 12:41pm
7/31/2021 12:41pm
Yzf916 wrote:
229lbs is still 7lbs heavier than a KTM450sxf. Add 3# for Cone Valves. And the CRF is still. 4lbs heavier than a KTM 450sxf.
Dirty Points wrote:
For the how-ever-many-ieth time on this forum. Wet weight vs dry weight. Learn it.
loftyair wrote:
Also, true weight, vs. claimed.
Well, yeah. But we're just spec-sheet racing at this point.
soggy
Profile picture for user soggy
Posts
4871
Joined
12/3/2018
Location
UT US
Fantasy
3846th
soggy 7/31/2021 1:32pm
7/31/2021 1:32pm
loftyair wrote:
Also, true weight, vs. claimed.
Manufacturers don’t really lie on this number imo
3
sandtrack315
Profile picture for user sandtrack315
Posts
2550
Joined
7/19/2013
Location
Philadelphia, PA US
sandtrack315 7/31/2021 2:32pm
7/31/2021 2:32pm
Everyone STFU about orange bikes.

It’s cool they shed some weight I can’t wait to ride it. I’m also glad they seemed to make it a bit more stable. It seems like the motor and chassis might be in the sweet spot.
4

The Shop

See All »
PigLover
Profile picture for user PigLover
Posts
62
Joined
9/8/2019
Location
Ellensburg, WA US
Fantasy
1715th
PigLover 7/31/2021 3:37pm
7/31/2021 3:37pm
Bit of a non sequitor; But I don’t understand why people even consider the stock tires on a new bike/truck/etc.. They’re a wear item and largely based on personal preference, if you know they’ll be replaced does it really matter all that much?
9
wrc777
Profile picture for user wrc777
Posts
2198
Joined
5/21/2020
Location
Greenwood, IN US
Fantasy
783rd
wrc777 7/31/2021 5:03pm
7/31/2021 5:03pm
PigLover wrote:
Bit of a non sequitor; But I don’t understand why people even consider the stock tires on a new bike/truck/etc.. They’re a wear item and largely...
Bit of a non sequitor; But I don’t understand why people even consider the stock tires on a new bike/truck/etc.. They’re a wear item and largely based on personal preference, if you know they’ll be replaced does it really matter all that much?
I’m a little surprised the manufacturers don’t just find the lightest tires so they can advertise the lowest weight unless most consumers don’t care what it weighs…
2
tek14
Profile picture for user tek14
Posts
4585
Joined
1/26/2014
Location
Vantaa FI
tek14 7/31/2021 11:09pm
7/31/2021 11:09pm
PigLover wrote:
Bit of a non sequitor; But I don’t understand why people even consider the stock tires on a new bike/truck/etc.. They’re a wear item and largely...
Bit of a non sequitor; But I don’t understand why people even consider the stock tires on a new bike/truck/etc.. They’re a wear item and largely based on personal preference, if you know they’ll be replaced does it really matter all that much?
wrc777 wrote:
I’m a little surprised the manufacturers don’t just find the lightest tires so they can advertise the lowest weight unless most consumers don’t care what it...
I’m a little surprised the manufacturers don’t just find the lightest tires so they can advertise the lowest weight unless most consumers don’t care what it weighs…
Honda just did do that.
4
1
mirramaxx
Profile picture for user mirramaxx
Posts
887
Joined
12/15/2011
Location
NE US
mirramaxx 7/31/2021 11:10pm
7/31/2021 11:10pm
Since we are spec racing.....
My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is....
Any ways this new 22 has some pretty key features for me.
Fatty button ( electric start ) and New bike smell !
2
LKHill
Profile picture for user LKHill
Posts
853
Joined
9/8/2020
Location
NY US
LKHill 8/1/2021 4:02am
8/1/2021 4:02am
mirramaxx wrote:
Since we are spec racing..... My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is.... Any ways this new...
Since we are spec racing.....
My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is....
Any ways this new 22 has some pretty key features for me.
Fatty button ( electric start ) and New bike smell !
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of recent years.

'08 43HP, NO WAY.
1
wrc777
Profile picture for user wrc777
Posts
2198
Joined
5/21/2020
Location
Greenwood, IN US
Fantasy
783rd
wrc777 8/1/2021 6:30am
8/1/2021 6:30am
mirramaxx wrote:
Since we are spec racing..... My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is.... Any ways this new...
Since we are spec racing.....
My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is....
Any ways this new 22 has some pretty key features for me.
Fatty button ( electric start ) and New bike smell !
LKHill wrote:
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of...
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of recent years.

'08 43HP, NO WAY.
I thought those first gen 250f bikes were closer to 33hp.
2
vitalriderCrf 8/1/2021 8:27am
8/1/2021 8:27am
mirramaxx wrote:
Since we are spec racing..... My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is.... Any ways this new...
Since we are spec racing.....
My 08 CRF 2 fiddy comes in at 227 and 43 hp according to google that is....
Any ways this new 22 has some pretty key features for me.
Fatty button ( electric start ) and New bike smell !
LKHill wrote:
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of...
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of recent years.

'08 43HP, NO WAY.
wrc777 wrote:
I thought those first gen 250f bikes were closer to 33hp.
I had an 09. Thing felt like it had about 20 HP.
5
3
tzmike
Profile picture for user tzmike
Posts
444
Joined
2/22/2014
Location
Warwick, NY US
tzmike 8/1/2021 9:49am
8/1/2021 9:49am
Not digging the whole red cosmetics. Makes my eyes burn
10
LKHill
Profile picture for user LKHill
Posts
853
Joined
9/8/2020
Location
NY US
LKHill 8/1/2021 10:29am
8/1/2021 10:29am Edited Date/Time 8/1/2021 10:29am
tzmike wrote:
Not digging the whole red cosmetics. Makes my eyes burn
It's a Honda bro. Supposed to burn the competitions eyes and give you an advantage..
3
Flatliner
Profile picture for user Flatliner
Posts
2853
Joined
11/3/2009
Location
CA
Flatliner 8/1/2021 11:04am
8/1/2021 11:04am
LKHill wrote:
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of...
What you will find is google show the same HP for all years of the same model. Typically the listed HP is from the current of recent years.

'08 43HP, NO WAY.
wrc777 wrote:
I thought those first gen 250f bikes were closer to 33hp.
vitalriderCrf wrote:
I had an 09. Thing felt like it had about 20 HP.
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding.

You must have had a lemon.
1
Lastander
Profile picture for user Lastander
Posts
1181
Joined
10/9/2016
Location
SE
Lastander 8/1/2021 12:47pm
8/1/2021 12:47pm
wrc777 wrote:
I thought those first gen 250f bikes were closer to 33hp.
vitalriderCrf wrote:
I had an 09. Thing felt like it had about 20 HP.
Flatliner wrote:
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding. You must have had a...
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding.

You must have had a lemon.
Yeah i had a -09 aswell, when it finally started it ripped, and they still do, id actually like to get one of the last carb’d 250f’s and ride/restore.

Hearing the bark from a carb bike beats the FI all day
3
8500rpm
Profile picture for user 8500rpm
Posts
332
Joined
12/31/2020
Location
SE
8500rpm 8/1/2021 12:54pm
8/1/2021 12:54pm
So what parts will transfer over? I.e 2020 parts will work just as well on the new bike? Wheels? Handlebars, Fork ?

Pit Row

See All »
LKHill
Profile picture for user LKHill
Posts
853
Joined
9/8/2020
Location
NY US
LKHill 8/1/2021 5:16pm
8/1/2021 5:16pm Edited Date/Time 8/1/2021 5:18pm
Flatliner wrote:
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding. You must have had a...
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding.

You must have had a lemon.
According to Dirt Rider the '09 put 28HP to the roller.

It must have been an '83 RM250 or your riding was the problem, lol.

https://www.dirtrider.com/features/141_0406_retraction/
2
4
wrc777
Profile picture for user wrc777
Posts
2198
Joined
5/21/2020
Location
Greenwood, IN US
Fantasy
783rd
wrc777 8/1/2021 5:56pm
8/1/2021 5:56pm
Man a new exhaust added a lot of power back then.
1
Flatliner
Profile picture for user Flatliner
Posts
2853
Joined
11/3/2009
Location
CA
Flatliner 8/2/2021 5:17am
8/2/2021 5:17am
Flatliner wrote:
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding. You must have had a...
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding.

You must have had a lemon.
LKHill wrote:
According to Dirt Rider the '09 put 28HP to the roller.

It must have been an '83 RM250 or your riding was the problem, lol.

https://www.dirtrider.com/features/141_0406_retraction/
Nope, two guys the same speed , anything but super deep sand and it was a battle.

that honda was the second most powerful 250f with a pretty solid spread. I rode the thing more than a handful of times. Numbers aside, it worked .
1
Premix
Profile picture for user Premix
Posts
1514
Joined
1/5/2014
Location
AS US
Premix 8/3/2021 4:16am
8/3/2021 4:16am
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f.

I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes, but damn.
1
12
MX915
Profile picture for user MX915
Posts
469
Joined
1/17/2018
Location
Central, NJ US
MX915 8/3/2021 4:28am
8/3/2021 4:28am
Premix wrote:
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f. I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes...
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f.

I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes, but damn.
Whistling

2
22Ryann
Profile picture for user 22Ryann
Posts
828
Joined
11/29/2010
Location
AU
Fantasy
4080th
22Ryann 8/3/2021 5:18am
8/3/2021 5:18am
Premix wrote:
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f. I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes...
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f.

I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes, but damn.
We're going to be paying 12k here in AUS
AH387
Profile picture for user AH387
Posts
1337
Joined
8/29/2019
Location
Bridgeville, PA US
AH387 8/3/2021 5:27am
8/3/2021 5:27am
Excited to see the reviews and opinions on this thing. I considered waiting for the Honda, knowing it was coming but stuck to what I know and got the YZF. I can see the Honda being a consistent top 2 bike in the shootouts, if the motor is versatile. I think it'll have the best ergos, cornering/chassis. I doubt the suspension will be better than the YZF but maybe right up there with it. So the rest just depends on this new motor. Either way, they are certainly going in the right direction. Duals was terrible and it was so annoying that it took so long for them to realize that. The bike looks-wise is probably the best too, as a bonus. If I were shopping it would immediately be in my top 3 with the YZF and KX.
3
1
Premix
Profile picture for user Premix
Posts
1514
Joined
1/5/2014
Location
AS US
Premix 8/3/2021 5:36am
8/3/2021 5:36am
MX915 wrote:
:whistle: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/08/03/504088/s1200_471E9DE7_E60A_4019_AB9D_88E66783AFCA.jpg[/img]
Whistling

Yes my typo. Not enough coffee this am. 8,099 plus 400 freight. So 8500.
2
wrc777
Profile picture for user wrc777
Posts
2198
Joined
5/21/2020
Location
Greenwood, IN US
Fantasy
783rd
wrc777 8/3/2021 5:47am
8/3/2021 5:47am
Only $100 more than the Suzuki. Cheapest e start 250 by a couple hundred. If I remember correctly in last years shoot outs a couple of places said the engine was the only thing holding it back from contending for the win.
2
wr74
Profile picture for user wr74
Posts
157
Joined
4/13/2015
Location
AU
wr74 8/3/2021 6:28am
8/3/2021 6:28am
Premix wrote:
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f. I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes...
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f.

I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes, but damn.
22Ryann wrote:
We're going to be paying 12k here in AUS
Yes, but have you seen the price of the Austrian bikes for 22?! Ktm250sx-f 13.4K, yikes !
sandtrack315
Profile picture for user sandtrack315
Posts
2550
Joined
7/19/2013
Location
Philadelphia, PA US
sandtrack315 8/3/2021 6:38am
8/3/2021 6:38am
Premix wrote:
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f. I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes...
Just watched the swap moto intro. 8900 MSRP for a freaking jap 250f.

I can respect the engineering and tech that goes into these new bikes, but damn.
22Ryann wrote:
We're going to be paying 12k here in AUS
wr74 wrote:
Yes, but have you seen the price of the Austrian bikes for 22?! Ktm250sx-f 13.4K, yikes !
As Swap said, MSRP for the bike about on par with mid-range road/mountain bikes.

I was honestly impressed they made all those changes and kept the price down. If you include their listed fright, Honda is $8499. The Yamaha is $9129.

I can't wait to read the ride reviews that should start trickling out. It really seems like they did everything right to make it a well rounded bike; for me, there are the important things they did, in order

1) more rid-range pull by emulating the straight shot of the Yamaha and going to a single muffler.
2) stronger clutch, better cooling, other durability improvements like the transmission
3) weight savings
4) a slightly softer frame for increased stability; it will be hard to beat the stability and suspension on the Yamaha, and everything loved the handling on the 21 Honda, but a bit more stability is welcome. I hope it still turns as well, though.

Unless there is some major flaw, I am going to sell my YZ250F and get the CRF250R.
8
3
vitalriderCrf 8/5/2021 9:47am
8/5/2021 9:47am
wrc777 wrote:
I thought those first gen 250f bikes were closer to 33hp.
vitalriderCrf wrote:
I had an 09. Thing felt like it had about 20 HP.
Flatliner wrote:
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding. You must have had a...
I loved the 09. My buddy had one, and it was as fast as my RM 250 in real world riding.

You must have had a lemon.
Yeah maybe. I didn't like that bike at all and I'm a long time Honda guy. Hard to start, sluggish and very unreliable. Also ended up blowing up the bottom end. I guess the ergonomics were okay. It was owned by one of the mx vacation companies out here before I had it and I don't think they took very good care of it.

Post a reply to: 2022 CRF250R