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Lastander Lastander
11/20/2020 8:02 AM

Anyone got any insight to what they will bring out?
The twin exhaust should be gone if were looking at the 450, does that mean they are scrapping the twinport head?
Or going 2 headers and then joining them by the clutchcover like an old husky 510?

Either way, if honda wants that #1 spot they have their work cut out for them if theyre looking at the new kawi for example.

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Johnny Ringo Johnny Ringo
11/20/2020 8:30 AM

I heard 4 headers and 3 mufflers

Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

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lumpy790 lumpy790
11/20/2020 8:43 AM

Rumor in the down low is 2022 will be the year of all electric whistling

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seth505 seth505
11/20/2020 8:44 AM

I can't give sources, but look for it to be red. This one has legs, trust me.

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skeef skeef
11/20/2020 9:03 AM

Shootouts will be released then pulled for bad math, Honda inevitably wins the shootout.

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mxracerjohn250 mxracerjohn250
11/20/2020 10:26 AM

CRF 250 has always been a turd.

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Johnny Depp Johnny Depp
11/20/2020 10:27 AM

Take a look at the new 450.

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sandtrack315 sandtrack315
11/20/2020 11:28 AM

Should be very similar to the 2021 450. I hope they can retain the cornering precision, add some stability and torque. If they do that, I’ll switch from blue to red.

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sandtrack315 sandtrack315
11/20/2020 11:32 AM
mxracerjohn250 wrote:

CRF 250 has always been a ...more

Swapmoto guys mostly said it was the most fun bike to ride for 2021...

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seth505 seth505
11/20/2020 11:40 AM

On a more serious note, I wish I had been able to try a bone stock CRF because I rode Carlinojoe's but it had A-kit, RaceTech head, etc. That was definitely a fun bike and turned really well.

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Motofinne Motofinne
11/20/2020 11:51 AM
seth505 wrote:

On a more serious note, I ...more

A fast local kid that rides a stock KTM with the only upgrade being kit suspension was on a 2021 Honda demoday. He said the engine was considerably slower than the Austrian 250.

Current fleet of two wheeled vehicles:
- Yamaha YZ450F 2020
- Suzuki GSX-R 600 K7 track spec
- Canyon Sender CF 8.0 2018 Downhill
- White GX Pro 20 Gravel

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-MAVERICK- -MAVERICK-
11/20/2020 11:54 AM
seth505 wrote:

I can't give sources, but ...more

Red and Honda, your source has got to be Ralph Sheheen.

"Sorry Goose, but it's time to buzz the tower."

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NoGasNoFiga793 NoGasNoFiga793
11/20/2020 11:56 AM

Still the slowest motor in the 2022 shootout.

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Talisker Talisker
11/20/2020 12:17 PM

Sales are so poor with the CRF250R they are cutting production and re-releasing the ATC and TRX 250R....
cool cool cool cool

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kiwifan kiwifan
11/20/2020 12:26 PM
seth505 wrote:

On a more serious note, I ...more

Motofinne wrote:

A fast local kid that ...more

Yup, motor isnt everything but for sure the CRF isnt as strong as other stock 250 motors, but responds very well with mods. With the 2022 CRF250R getting the same layout as the 450 then there will be a lot more air going in so look for more HP for sure.

Current rides: 2022 CRF450RWE
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF 1987 CR250RH
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1100L

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BroFoSho BroFoSho
11/20/2020 1:24 PM
NoGasNoFiga793 wrote:

Still the slowest motor in ...more

This is true since they don't even include Suzuki in the shootouts anymore

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ryanxmx31 ryanxmx31
11/20/2020 3:37 PM

If you look at the dyno curve of the honda it mimics the 2020 kx250 and has way more top end than the yamaha, defintely not slow

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Chris_Buehler Chris_Buehler
11/20/2020 4:27 PM

Skeeter said the Honda 250f is such a dog the KTM 125 is faster than it

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ryanxmx31 ryanxmx31
11/20/2020 5:03 PM

I think it just feels slow because it doesnt have that snappy feeling when you crack the throttle but if you would take lap times it would be not much difference

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sandtrack315 sandtrack315
11/20/2020 5:17 PM
kiwifan wrote:

Yup, motor isnt everything ...more

What mods have you done / are best for it?

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nwmx nwmx
11/20/2020 6:51 PM

I put a Pipe, 14:3 piston, vortex ignition, 49t rear sprocket and run vp u4.4 in mine and it’s made it a great bike. Out of the box yeah it’s slow but with those mods it’s made it such a fun bike. Corners in 3rd and revs super far

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sandtrack315 sandtrack315
11/21/2020 3:42 PM
nwmx wrote:

I put a Pipe, 14:3 piston, ...more

I assume a pipe, ECU, and VP T4 would close the gap enough with the Yamaha to make it a nice package if you’re just riding for fun.

How many hours you get out of the piston?

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hubbardmx50 hubbardmx50
11/21/2020 4:14 PM

More meat in the engine department, hydro clutch and single pipe would make one badass crf250. Even though I'm too fat to ride one full time I can't wait to see what changes they make.

Don't ever let facts get in the way of a great story

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nascarnate326 nascarnate326
11/21/2020 7:16 PM

Ill be buying one and selling my 2018 KX250F. Finally time for that magic button! Hopefully it has some low end power but I assume it will be a high rpm screamer like the current bike and KTM.

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nwmx nwmx
11/22/2020 9:09 AM
nwmx wrote:

I put a Pipe, 14:3 piston, ...more

sandtrack315 wrote:

I assume a pipe, ECU, and ...more

Not sure how it compares I’ve never ridden the Yamaha. I think I’ve got 45 on the 14:3 right now. Definitely pushing it but I bought a 2021 KX250 yesterday. Out of the box the engines way more enjoyable to ride than the Honda.

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LKHill LKHill
11/22/2020 9:19 AM
mxracerjohn250 wrote:

CRF 250 has always been a ...more

sandtrack315 wrote:

Swapmoto guys mostly said ...more

"Out of the box the engines way more enjoyable to ride than the Honda."

Lol!

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kiwifan kiwifan
11/22/2020 9:41 AM
nwmx wrote:

I put a Pipe, 14:3 piston, ...more

sandtrack315 wrote:

I assume a pipe, ECU, and ...more

nwmx wrote:

Not sure how it compares I ...more

I think we all know that out of the box the Honda isnt the strongest engine, congrats on your new purchase

Current rides: 2022 CRF450RWE
Occasional ride for VMX: 1985 CR500RF 1987 CR250RH
Adventure/Road bike: CRF1100L

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TeamGreen TeamGreen
11/22/2020 9:42 AM

I you're a 450 rider? The Honda power delivery takes a while to figure out. If you're coming of an 85 0r a 125...? It's awesome. I think that engine is a blast to ride, It's like a super-torquey 2 stroke, to me. Keefer's kid rides one with, I think, with a little bit of work and a Vortex (again, I think...?) from Twisted...it rips around Glen Helen like a Boss!

The next-gen Honda 250 should be pretty damn nice. I'm just wondering if they'll make a new head casting or build a 2 into 1 header...?

Nobody ever told me, I found out for myself. You've got to believe in foolish miracles. It's not how you play the game, it's if you win or lose. You can choose. Don't confuse. Win or lose. It's up to you!

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Johnny Ringo Johnny Ringo
11/22/2020 10:16 AM
TeamGreen wrote:

I you're a 450 rider? The ...more

Pretty much nailed it. If you rev the tits off it they rip. Not made for luggers (like me).

I like bikes having different characteristics. Not everyone likes how Yamahas and Austrian bikes are

Alright Lunger, Let's Do It

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Leeham Leeham
11/22/2020 10:51 AM

For me, the Honda is a fun bike. My brothers 19 yz250f is a superior machine in many ways. For me, I need a yamaha engine in a Honda chassis. 😁

Gone:
2006 CRF230F
2008 KTM 200 XC
2017 KTM 250 SX
2019 CRF250R
Current: 2021 YZ250F

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