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10/19/2021 9:18am
10/19/2021 9:18am
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11/2/2021 7:31am
Update: Full 250 Shootout : https://www.vitalmx.com/features/2022-Vital-MX-250-Shootout,7613
GASGAS MC 250F In-Depth: https://youtu.be/Yw2nSciZhf8
Honda CRF250R In-Depth
https://youtu.be/i6S_Xcjrni0
Also, we finished all the in-depth videos from 450, they are added below.
Hey Gang, we posted the video from our 450 Shootout last week, but here's the full test from the homepage:
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/2022-Vital-MX-450-Shootout,7557
Got questions? Myself and Klinger have some answers! Any suggestions, etc?
There's also some videos we're releasing that are myself and some of the riders discussing and breaking down each bike if you'd rather listen than read.
Honda CRF450R In-Depth: https://youtu.be/y20_INRFrlc
GASGAS 450MCF In-Depth: https://youtu.be/o7xbgvxbkyY
Yamaha YZ450F In-Depth: https://youtu.be/O8fq91_Pl64
KTM 450 SX-F In-Depth: https://youtu.be/DtufLNEQz_c
Suzuki RM-Z450 In-Depth: https://youtu.be/RDNT5Q_UXbc
Kawasaki KX450 In-Depth: https://youtu.be/TP1TMvD6zIo
Husqvarna FC 450 In-Depth: https://youtu.be/y-bwk8i1Ot0
GASGAS MC 250F In-Depth: https://youtu.be/Yw2nSciZhf8
Honda CRF250R In-Depth
https://youtu.be/i6S_Xcjrni0
Also, we finished all the in-depth videos from 450, they are added below.
Hey Gang, we posted the video from our 450 Shootout last week, but here's the full test from the homepage:
https://www.vitalmx.com/features/2022-Vital-MX-450-Shootout,7557
Got questions? Myself and Klinger have some answers! Any suggestions, etc?
There's also some videos we're releasing that are myself and some of the riders discussing and breaking down each bike if you'd rather listen than read.
Honda CRF450R In-Depth: https://youtu.be/y20_INRFrlc
GASGAS 450MCF In-Depth: https://youtu.be/o7xbgvxbkyY
Yamaha YZ450F In-Depth: https://youtu.be/O8fq91_Pl64
KTM 450 SX-F In-Depth: https://youtu.be/DtufLNEQz_c
Suzuki RM-Z450 In-Depth: https://youtu.be/RDNT5Q_UXbc
Kawasaki KX450 In-Depth: https://youtu.be/TP1TMvD6zIo
Husqvarna FC 450 In-Depth: https://youtu.be/y-bwk8i1Ot0
I canβt read the shootouts.
This is fucked.
The Shop
Iβm thinking when my Suzuki gets around 120 hours Iβll be looking for a 22 Honda.
Iβm wondering how many hours is a good time to sell, I have 67 now.
What would be cool is a bike build test on all the 450/250 bikes with a limited budget and see how they all stack up????
I never race a bike (stock) anyways as I need to at least do the suspension and change the bars to my liking and usually at least a slip on. Keep up the great work!!!
Just wondering ML, from a bike tester standpoint, what would you like to see manufacturers change or try to innovate?
I can see maybe the introduction of an air shock on a production bike being a somewhat large change.
Also ML mentioned the swingarm is different (softer) on the husky and gg. I never knew they were different. I'm assuming that means more flex? is that a good thing, bad thing, or just personal preference?
I wouldn't mind seeing an OEM taking an outgoing generation bike, strip it to more basics like the GASGAs. Remove the mapping switches, go to cheaper accessories like bars, suspension, tires, wheels, and other materials...lowering the price of the bike and utilizing those molds for longer periods so the price can be brought down. Say a current gen 450 costs $9,500 MSRP...I'd love to see if they could keep that model around a couple years and bring thee price down to $7,000-8,000 range (I might be a little too hopeful there).
Then bring in the new model by maybe go a little more all out on electronic add ons, aftermarket goodies, performance, etc...which would push the price up a bit of course...to more like $11,000-12,000 but hopefully we do less to these bikes when we get them.
I guess follow more of the Mountain bike market model. Have entry level and performance versions of the models. But by updating the look of the outgoing bike to look. more like the new one, the entry level buyer still feels like they're getting the good stuff but able to afford to step into moto...while the core enthusiast who wants the best and newest has their option as well.
Pit Row
All things being pretty similar, ergonomics is so important for the average rider. Also build quality is super important if you keep your bikes for a long time.
I've been saying it for 3 years now that this is the best 450 on the market! For 2023 Yamaha's goal should be from RV, "don't fuck it up". Also please keep the lower seat, tall fuckers can buy a tall seat. I like buying a bike that I can touch the ground with both feet at the same time.
Also, all In-Depth videos from 450 Shootout have been added.
Good job on the 250 Shootout, guys. Looking forward to the rest of the content on the 250s.
Still, I'm holding out for a "Red '23" that I'll be buying as a '22...if GasGas EVER get's it here!!!
So, Michael...I'm asking...here...for the record:
When is the Factory Edition, Rockstar Edition, TLD Team Edition, KX-SR, CRF-RWE and...yes...even the YZ-F Monster Edition..."Shootout"?
Note: Suzuki ought to saddle up and make a Twisted Tea Edition!!!
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