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Wich 2022 250f
Would you recommend to a 40 year old beginner/Novice?
What's your skill level and which would you buy personally?
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Would you recommend to a 40 year old beginner/Novice?
What's your skill level and which would you buy personally?
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Honda, good cornering, strong motor, great ergonomics. If you are a little heavier, maybe the Yamaha, because of the motor.
What's your skill level and which would you buy personally?
30+ Vet A, been riding the Yamaha, going to the Honda this year. I don't race, just want to have fun on the bike, so giving the Honda a try since everyone says it is so fun to ride.
But for performance I think I would choose Honda
The Shop
Just the KX as an example, not picking on them... but last time I looked Kawi's piston replacement hours were under half KTM's?
Are Kawi just covering themselves and being paranoid? Assuming everyone is super fast and aggressive? Or are the internal parts really that much cheaper or worse?
This is just a question, don't take any of it as fact or think I know what I'm talking about, I don't at all, that's why I'm asking and it's only based off what I saw in a couple of service manuals a while ago.
They are all really good this year. KTM forks aren't as bad as they make them out to be stock.
But if you're looking to have the bike for multiple years, the Honda would be a good choice. It got its big generational update now and wont change for years except smaller tweaks. So you'll have the latest gen Honda for a while if you get the 22 CRF250. The rest of the bikes are set for generation updates next year or a couple of years from now. And the first impressions of the bike seems to be positive, i'll personally get to ride it next Friday.
Also, having the newest generation strictly because it's the newest generation is sometimes a silly way to look at it. I would want the new Honda just because now it makes power that fits a broader spectrum of riders, not because it's going to be the new-gen for years to come. But not buying a Yamaha (or KTM) just because the bike may change next year, is silly if the current model does everything that fits your needs. Usually the final run of a generation has all of the kinks worked out, which can't always be said for the first year bike. But sometimes people just need to feel like they have the latest because it's cool, which to each their own.
The Yamaha is going to be the easiest to ride and if you are between 145-165lbs the suspension should work really well. Anything outside of the that may require changing springs. The other bikes are simply not as good as the Yamaha when it comes to suspension. The YZF motor is very torquey and easy to ride thanks to the strong low-end and mid-range.
My second choice would be the CRF. The bottom end power is better than last year but not as good as YZF and the top is good but not as good as the KTM. Though the layout/ergonomics on the Honda second to none. I think it would be a blast to ride!
The KTM/GASGAS.Husky will need suspension work to fix the forks.
The 22 KXF has no bottom to speak of but hits like a ton of bricks in the midrange. The forks would also need work.
The RMZ is underpowered and would need suspension work. Not to mention no electric start.
The problem now is finding a bike where the dealer's not adding a ton of fee's etc. We picked up our 21 YZF for 7999.00 but you must shop around.
Good Luck!
Novice skill level? Still Yam or Honda. The Yamaha makes decent low end power and torque off the bottom and gets into the midrange quick. Making it easier to ride especially on tighter tracks. If the new Honda is similar in power curve, or just a touch less off the bottom vs YZ, then its a solid choice too. RMZ would be a good pick too, but the resell value is much better on blue and red if you want to let go of it.
My recommendation is based off what ive seen and experience. Newer slower riders dont rev the bike out (usually, there are the goons who ride 2nd gear to the limiter thinking they are going faster but not really). So picking a more top end oriented bike is going to make it tougher. (Kawi, KTM/Hus/GG, last gen Honda). But this could be good because softer bottom power can make people new to the sport feel more comfortable. In a perfect world everyone would start on an aircooled 4 stroke to learn controls and body position. Whether its just a day or a week. Introducing 40 HP machines to new people cam be troublesome.
Pit Row
Do not want to sound like a know it all or anything. Just curious because I swear they have got exponentially better over the past few years and I feel like that goes overlooked. Everyone associates KTM brands with garbage forks and I think that's not the case anymore.
Thank me later....
Kawasaki and Honda will need more service as they wear out quick.
But IF I were to choose, I’d say either the Honda or Kawi personally.
Although in terms of durability, I do believe the ktm/husky 250s have forged engine internals. If I’m wrong on that, please correct me.
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