2021 last year for new two strokes in CA

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9/15/2019 8:40 PM

I just read in an article from CMDA that after 2021 California has banned the sale of two stroke off highway motorcycles over 110cc. The red sticker program is extended until 2025. After that, any ohv motorcycles will use one color sticker. And emissions will
Be tightened up every single year from 2020 through 2025. Interesting.

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9/15/2019 8:51 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/15/2019 8:53 PM

LAME!!!

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9/15/2019 8:54 PM

They banned the sale of new two strokes after 2021 but the 2021 and older two strokes will be legal to ride.they will be grandfathered in. Its America still. So far.

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9/15/2019 8:54 PM
Edited Date/Time: 9/15/2019 8:56 PM

Peoples republic of Commiefornia need to speak up. Maybe the state wants these effected companies to buy carbon credits from the state. This is how the 45 mpg by 2025 was factored in during the last administration. The real mpg target was 40 mpg but combined with the carbon tax credits, somehow it works out to 45 mpg in Ca.

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9/15/2019 8:59 PM

Just will have to drive over Arizona or Nevada to pick one up I guess. Lame

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9/15/2019 9:20 PM

Yup

10s of millions of cars in California and this is the crap they pass for "clean air".

Insanity.

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I ripped a start from Egypt and I was happy about that.

9/15/2019 9:36 PM

Don't move to the free states we don't need all these ideas spreading

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A 350 is always the solution.
My favorite time of year is when the biblical rains come to Southern California

9/15/2019 11:36 PM

After 2025 my Mx bikes will be green sticker so that’s cool

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9/16/2019 12:43 AM

Time for KTM to figure out how to turbo charge a 110cc two stroke engine!

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9/16/2019 1:25 AM

TeamGreen wrote:

Yup

10s of millions of cars in California and this is the crap they pass for "clean air".

Insanity.

Attacking hobbies sport vehicles is fucked.

I would be all for banning 2 stroke scooters and also progressively bringing in more stringent emissions standards for passenger and commercial to the point that in 10 years it’s hard to make an ICE car pass. Force innovation through intelligent regulation.

Let people have their hobbies it’s a bees dick of a percentage of state emissions.

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9/16/2019 2:37 AM

Bunch of morans in power out there.

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9/16/2019 3:45 AM

MichaelAndrew93 wrote:

Don't move to the free states we don't need all these ideas spreading

Ain't the UN headquarters in New York? j/k. A while ago there was an outrage among the marina world overhere, 99% of 2 stroke marina engines is useless after the introduction of stricter environmental regulations from the EU ( The european department of the UN ) if you didn’t figuar out by now who the NWO is?! well than you know it now 🙉🙈🙊

Dude, we are all in the same boat... the current system divided people ( populism ) so Jo Streets don't have time nor the energy to fight the powers that be in charge ( UN ) ...long story short, 2t vs 4t, Europe vs America, etc. it's all so counterproductive ( my two cents ) buy a passport and travel the world and find out yourself its the same shit everywhere in the free western world... the same fastfood chains, fachion labels and music etc. really its all the same!!!

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9/16/2019 4:01 AM

TeamGreen wrote:

Yup

10s of millions of cars in California and this is the crap they pass for "clean air".

Insanity.

They started this shit many years ago. You didn't think it was gonna stop anytime soon did ya?

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9/16/2019 4:19 AM

Wasn't CA going to be it's own country soon?

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9/16/2019 4:42 AM

Pretty soon everyone in California will be required to inhale their own farts.

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9/16/2019 5:12 AM

cody41 wrote:

Pretty soon everyone in California will be required to inhale their own farts.

Rightfully so. The methane in human flatulence is melting the ice caps, because of plastic straws.

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9/16/2019 5:19 AM

cody41 wrote:

Pretty soon everyone in California will be required to inhale their own farts.

SEE ARE125 wrote:

Rightfully so. The methane in human flatulence is melting the ice caps, because of plastic straws.

You know south park predicted this in that episode where the prius drivers sniffed their own farts.

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9/16/2019 5:44 AM

TeamGreen wrote:

Yup

10s of millions of cars in California and this is the crap they pass for "clean air".

Insanity.

BobbyM wrote:

They started this shit many years ago. You didn't think it was gonna stop anytime soon did ya?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/sep/09/schwarzenegger-trump-california-clean-air-emissions-climate-crisis

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9/16/2019 6:03 AM

I don’t see how anyone living in California could be proud of their state.

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9/16/2019 6:37 AM

Wells423 wrote:

I don’t see how anyone living in California could be proud of their state.

I ordered a pipe for my street legal WR about a month ago and it took almost 3 weeks to get here because the company was un able to ship it to California because of some tax, so they had to work around it. It’s dumb here. I would love to get out but stuck here for now.

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9/16/2019 7:31 AM

Isn’t the EU banning the sale of new two strokes soon as well?

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9/16/2019 7:37 AM

Truly is sad. Taxes are only getting worse and roads are terrible. Best climate in the nation has its price I guess.

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9/16/2019 7:46 AM

Banning 2-strokes to clean up the environment is like trying to plug a 1" diameter hole in a leaking tank using a hair from your head.

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9/16/2019 7:53 AM

So 110s with an optional 150 kit available in 2021? Sounds as stupid as the law, but it could happen. Don't get me started on CA ruining gas cans and diesel engines. One thing I don't understand is, how does one state have so much pull on the tree hugger stuff?

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9/16/2019 7:59 AM

731chopper wrote:

Isn’t the EU banning the sale of new two strokes soon as well?

Not sure if it’s an outright ban or stricter emission rules? I believe it’s why the European manufacturers are going with the TPI engines.

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9/16/2019 8:04 AM

Cool, that should save the planet. Thnx

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9/16/2019 8:18 AM

The way i understand it is that the red sticker program is ending and there will be only two classifications. Green sticker 4 strokes that must be efi carb approved. Then there's the second classification.

Closed course competition use only bikes which is gonna be pretty much anything that isn't. Carb approved for trail use. So that means like crf R's yz250f 2 strokes carb'd bikes etc.

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9/16/2019 8:39 AM

Gordon Liddy wrote:

Banning 2-strokes to clean up the environment is like trying to plug a 1" diameter hole in a leaking tank using a hair from your head.

It's just low hanging fruit that the general public doesn't care about. The politicians chalk it up as a win to show their constituents that they're making "progress" so they get re-elected in the future. The impact it has on the environment has nothing to do with it, unfortunately.

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9/16/2019 8:54 AM

Sounds like a great opportunity for someone to sell a lot of 110 cc stickers!

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2016 YZ250X

9/16/2019 9:14 AM

TeamGreen wrote:

Yup

10s of millions of cars in California and this is the crap they pass for "clean air".

Insanity.

They "banned" 2 stroke leaf blowers, yet I hear them all day long. Hope the local Yamaha dealers order lots and lots of 2021 YZ250's

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