2021 CRF450

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Full time plumber, european motocross, 10-14 hours on full Rekluse Laughing
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cody41 wrote:
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C)...
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C). I just don’t see some of the high hours people get out of stock clutches etc. unless they’re slow c riders.
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I put about 45 hours on it and its still fine, ( judder springs are removed )

Hard to believe since Suzuki's are pieces of shit I know, but its true, and I do use my clutch too.

I do have a new full recluse torque drive with basket and all I got a deal on I am going to put in and try soon, always wanted to try one of them.
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loftyair 1/21/2020 7:40am
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If you never use it....
doesn't matter skill level.
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loftyair wrote:
If you never use it....
doesn't matter skill level.
Exactly... there are pros that have to change plates every moto, and I know some slow vet guys that would smoke the clutch in an Alta every race.
It's about how your ride and how you use the clutch

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Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

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cody41 wrote:
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C)...
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C). I just don’t see some of the high hours people get out of stock clutches etc. unless they’re slow c riders.
motomike894 wrote:
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I...
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I put about 45 hours on it and its still fine, ( judder springs are removed )

Hard to believe since Suzuki's are pieces of shit I know, but its true, and I do use my clutch too.

I do have a new full recluse torque drive with basket and all I got a deal on I am going to put in and try soon, always wanted to try one of them.
lol yeah you stroll the mail for a bigger guy!!! love watching your videos lol
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Mauro wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/21/399467/s1200_FB_IMG_1579421210633.jpg[/img] Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

hope that hydro clutch makes it to production!
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#434 1/21/2020 9:08am
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Mauro wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/21/399467/s1200_FB_IMG_1579421210633.jpg[/img] Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

We need a pic from the side!!!
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hubbardmx50 1/21/2020 9:13am
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Looks like a more production looking hydraulic clutch. Like the one that’s on the 19-20 Kx450
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Mauro 1/21/2020 9:21am
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Mauro wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/01/21/399467/s1200_FB_IMG_1579421210633.jpg[/img] Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

Directly from Sardinia, Honda CRF 2021 prototype.

#434 wrote:
We need a pic from the side!!!
This is the best I found so far
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TheGetFresh 1/21/2020 9:25am
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god damn, at 6’2” i already feel like i’m horseback riding on a midget with my 2018 CRF450. Please stop building bikes for the martin brothers.
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Lightning78 1/21/2020 10:00am
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Those are some REALLY narrow frame spars it appears....anyone think its possibly a steel perimeter frame?
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#434 1/21/2020 10:16am
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Lightning78 wrote:
Those are some REALLY narrow frame spars it appears....anyone think its possibly a steel perimeter frame?
Nope!
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#434 1/21/2020 10:17am
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Who downvotes these pics?? The CEO of Honda??
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cody41 wrote:
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C)...
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C). I just don’t see some of the high hours people get out of stock clutches etc. unless they’re slow c riders.
High B class rider. Sand rider only so it’s being beat on.
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sandtrack315 1/21/2020 10:34am
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If you want more clutch life, add stiffer springs. They are cheap.

If the 450 is getting a single exhaust and power tuner app deal, will the 250F get it? That bikes seems close to the top of the class, but has a few things holding it back versus the Yamaha, mostly no tuner app, less bottom end, and some stability (which, of course, is because it turns nicer, but the trade-off is better for me on the Yamaha).
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Mauro 1/21/2020 10:35am
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Lightning78 wrote:
Those are some REALLY narrow frame spars it appears....anyone think its possibly a steel perimeter frame?
I don't know but there are some very long engine hangers.
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kiwifan 1/21/2020 11:03am
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cody41 wrote:
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C)...
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C). I just don’t see some of the high hours people get out of stock clutches etc. unless they’re slow c riders.
ML512 wrote:
Jerry Robin, Supercross, over 20 hours on stock CRF450R clutch. Laughing
Dont tell MXA that! Smile
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MXVet261 1/21/2020 12:03pm
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Looks like it needs a tooth added to the rear sprocket
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Idp57 1/21/2020 2:28pm
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Its really looks like the KTM,even the throttle cables ecept the clutch line.They are all behind the handle bar.
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kiwifan 1/21/2020 3:01pm
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Idp57 wrote:
Its really looks like the KTM,even the throttle cables ecept the clutch line.They are all behind the handle bar.
Well it is also a factory bike, so might not be what it is come production time Smile
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Time will tell Smile
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OFalk280 1/21/2020 3:36pm
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Wonder what this means for the 2022 CRF250R...still quite a ways away but I’m sure they’re in the middle of development already, if they’re not basically already decided on what they want. A move away from dual exhaust would seem weird for the 250 with their introduction of their “true dual” engine. Radical design on that engine but only used for 4 years? Gonna be interesting to say the least
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Luke_Richards 1/21/2020 4:51pm
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cody41 wrote:
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C)...
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C). I just don’t see some of the high hours people get out of stock clutches etc. unless they’re slow c riders.
motomike894 wrote:
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I...
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I put about 45 hours on it and its still fine, ( judder springs are removed )

Hard to believe since Suzuki's are pieces of shit I know, but its true, and I do use my clutch too.

I do have a new full recluse torque drive with basket and all I got a deal on I am going to put in and try soon, always wanted to try one of them.
Someone told me I need to remove my judder from my 19 rmz. What’s the advantage?
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motomike894 1/21/2020 4:55pm
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cody41 wrote:
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C)...
I feel like people need to add their riding skill after they make an hour meter statement about a bike. (Front, mid, back of pack A,B,C). I just don’t see some of the high hours people get out of stock clutches etc. unless they’re slow c riders.
motomike894 wrote:
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I...
I am a decent vet A rider, and weigh a lot, I have ran the same OEM Suzuki clutch in my bike all of 2019, I put about 45 hours on it and its still fine, ( judder springs are removed )

Hard to believe since Suzuki's are pieces of shit I know, but its true, and I do use my clutch too.

I do have a new full recluse torque drive with basket and all I got a deal on I am going to put in and try soon, always wanted to try one of them.
Luke_Richards wrote:
Someone told me I need to remove my judder from my 19 rmz. What’s the advantage?
It’ll start slipping if leave it in there, or affect the way it engages once they get warped.

I have no clue why they come with them, you order a oem suzuki clutch kit they sell it doesn’t have them
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gsxr6 1/21/2020 5:18pm
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Looks like it might be an intake where the gas cap used to be. So probably underseat fuel tank ala yamaha
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Idp57 1/21/2020 5:58pm
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-Side airbox panel
-Frame Y-s is higher and you can definitely see the central exhaust port
-No gas cap
-All cables and lines run behind the bar and goes under the gastank cover
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Jmicmoto13 1/21/2020 9:38pm
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Wrap around header again? I always liked the way that looked on the 09-13's.
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#434 1/22/2020 12:07am
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I mean the Yamaha concept of moving the tank into the middle of the bike and the intake to the front is sound. And you can do that without a turned around engine too.

All technical details aside, the bike looks cool! It's good they move away from the duals.
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