2020 Suzuki.......

2026 is to be an all new design with an upgraded carbon fiber kickstarter and optional magura hydraulic clutch

BENG
"Barely Even New Graphics"

The 250 needed different spring rates

Suzuki could have released pics the 2020 model 30 seconds after releasing the 2019 model. But hey, it is an alternative to something else. So kudos to Suzuki for at least releasing a bike.

Speeder757 wrote:

The 250 needed different spring rates

That I am surprised, that they didn’t throw a lighter spring in the 250F. But shoot the 2019 came out so late that it is basically a 19.5 anyhow they should have just made a running change and thrown the lighter springs on it, cause that was the only thing really holding it back in comparisons

...but, but, but vital says 99% of the people on here cannot use the orange/white, green, blue or red bikes to their full potential anyhow. Save your money and go yellow, no? Only pros can notice it's deficiencies.

soopah noviss wrote:

...but, but, but vital says 99% of the people on here cannot use the orange/white, green, blue or red bikes to their full potential anyhow. Save your money and go yellow, no? Only pros can notice it's deficiencies.

Id agree with that..........at least for me
Personally it’s true and I know it.

2020 marks the end of Suzuki MX..

...is something a young person would say that hasn't seen the same thing and heard people say the same thing for who knows how many years.

INB4

- Malachi "I gEt HoLeShOts vS 450s AlL tHe TiMe oN My RmZ iN JuNiOr ClAss!!!!!"

- "The RMZ is 1k less than the others and no one can use them to their full potential"

- "Kick-starts are for men, i just don't understand why people would need e-start"

- "RC and Dungey had no problems on this bike"

- "Suzukis look the best"

byke wrote:

...is something a young person would say that hasn't seen the same thing and heard people say the same thing for who knows how many years.

I’ve been following the sport closely for 20 years now and I know that Suzuki always had a different approach to bike development than most others: nothing crazy, slow but steady. But they always tried to improve the bike a little bit AND always had excellent factory teams in the GPs and the States. But now: no R&D and no factory teams at all.
Tell me what are Suzukis plans?

$20 bucks says you'll finish in the same position in your given race on any current 450. People bitch just to bitch. I think buying the zook and spending the extra 5g's going racing is going to have more of a posive impact on your riding than any fancy and overpriced bike ever could.

I could only speculate what their plans are, but I don't think their dirt development team gets much money and they're always just doing as much as they can with what they have. The 2020 models aren't huge shock, nor does it mark the end of Suzuki MX. Wasn't there a year they didn't import anything to the US? Isn't there a missing year for either their dirt or street line? Anyway, there's nothing special about another BNG year that would warrant such pessimism.

Speeder757 wrote:

The 250 needed different spring rates

Softer exactly. Would not have been hard to respec in production

The thing that people forget when talk about these brand new "6k OTD" RMZ 450s.

1. Those kind of deals are in the minority. It isn't like you can show up at every dealer around the globe and get that.
2. Have you completely ignored that you can get deals on other brands left over bikes, even KTM/Husky bikes?

So when ever i read about the brilliant "6k OTD" Suzuki that will be fantastic after 2-3k of spending on it i always just think about the 7-8k leftover Yamaha or Kawasaki (you can even get a KTM close to 8k if you're lucky).

The Suzuki doesn't suck, and you can get a good deal on one. But that is also the case for the other bikes.

As a huge suzuki fan boy this is another kick in the guts, next bike I buy might he be a different colour.

byke wrote:

...is something a young person would say that hasn't seen the same thing and heard people say the same thing for who knows how many years.

#434 wrote:

I’ve been following the sport closely for 20 years now and I know that Suzuki always had a different approach to bike development than most others: nothing crazy, slow but steady. But they always tried to improve the bike a little bit AND always had excellent factory teams in the GPs and the States. But now: no R&D and no factory teams at all.
Tell me what are Suzukis plans?

Maybe Suzuki plan to fight it out with the China bikes in a shootout.

Looks as though Suzuki could give a shit about MX anymore. It’s all about the GSXR-1000 for Suzook.

byke wrote:

I could only speculate what their plans are, but I don't think their dirt development team gets much money and they're always just doing as much as they can with what they have. The 2020 models aren't huge shock, nor does it mark the end of Suzuki MX. Wasn't there a year they didn't import anything to the US? Isn't there a missing year for either their dirt or street line? Anyway, there's nothing special about another BNG year that would warrant such pessimism.

Believe me, I hope they prove me wrong and come back strong. But I‘m loosing hope..

New China bike have more R&D than a 2020 RM-z450?

Dr.201 wrote:

$20 bucks says you'll finish in the same position in your given race on any current 450. People bitch just to bitch. I think buying the zook and spending the extra 5g's going racing is going to have more of a posive impact on your riding than any fancy and overpriced bike ever could.

Pure statistics would argue that most people (or at least below average riders, including me) would have their worst race results on a Suzuki solely for the fact if you stall in a corner, it's going to take extra time to kick-start the bike.

Dr.201 wrote:

$20 bucks says you'll finish in the same position in your given race on any current 450. People bitch just to bitch. I think buying the zook and spending the extra 5g's going racing is going to have more of a posive impact on your riding than any fancy and overpriced bike ever could.

Lol I agree. And that's why I bought a 2019 kx250f for $5300!

EXCLUSIVE: Live look at Suzuki Japan's Motorcycle Engineering Department, already busy working on the 2021 models.

Wonder what Tyler is thinking right now?

Suzuki updates the rmz's more often then yamaha updates their yz125/250s...

Brad460 wrote:

Wonder what Tyler is thinking right now?

Another missed opportunity from suzuki, an uncle horse works edition with a texas flag on it would have sold like hot cakes

Some people just like good old reliable MX bikes that work. Suzukis have less bells and whistles than the other bikes, and that's why they're less expensive.

People call them outdated but yet you listen to guys like Kenny Roczen and he's still searching for a setup on his new "state-of-the-art" bike that will offer him the same comfort/confidence he had on his "outdated" yellow bike in 2016.

These yellow bikes work well on the MX track and none of your lap times would be faster on another bike given the same initial investment on the bike. In fact I would bet you might even be faster on a yellow bike, even though it's "old" and "heavy".

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Some people just like good old reliable MX bikes that work. Suzukis have less bells and whistles than the other bikes, and that's why they're less expensive.

People call them outdated but yet you listen to guys like Kenny Roczen and he's still searching for a setup on his new "state-of-the-art" bike that will offer him the same comfort/confidence he had on his "outdated" yellow bike in 2016.

These yellow bikes work well on the MX track and none of your lap times would be faster on another bike given the same initial investment on the bike. In fact I would bet you might even be faster on a yellow bike, even though it's "old" and "heavy".

You better stop talking that common sense and making good points around here......

For those of you spend the money on a brand new rmz every year, maybe just thank Suzuki for allowing you to save some money this year!