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6/18/2019 5:58 AM

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6/18/2019 6:02 AM

Back to KYB on the 250F.

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6/18/2019 6:07 AM

Some nice upgrades to the KX250. Should be interesting to see what they do with it for 2021.

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6/18/2019 6:16 AM

Big red flag.. the engine case on the 250 does not look to have accommodations for an electric motor for the next generations models.

I hope the estart location is on the opposite side of the kickstart lever. I cant imagine theyd create tooling for a 1 year run like that.

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6/18/2019 6:34 AM

kb228 wrote:

Big red flag.. the engine case on the 250 does not look to have accommodations for an electric motor for the next generations models.

I hope the estart location is on the opposite side of the kickstart lever. I cant imagine theyd create tooling for a 1 year run like that.

Kind of makes me wonder. Seems like it would be cost prohibitive to make a one year only case. Is it possible they have a plug like the 17 CRF450 and just "forgot" to mention it?

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6/18/2019 6:36 AM

Bike doesn't need electric start. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not on next years model either.

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6/18/2019 6:43 AM

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Bike doesn't need electric start. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not on next years model either.

It needs it because their competitors have it. Keep up with technology or fall behind like Suzuki. Estart is a requirement for most new buyers.

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6/18/2019 6:53 AM

I love my kx, but I'll go Honda for the e-start if the 2021 doesn't have one. Once you've had an estart you miss it.

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6/18/2019 6:59 AM

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Bike doesn't need electric start. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not on next years model either.

It’ll be on the ‘21.

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6/18/2019 7:02 AM

What other 250f have estart besides ktm/husky?

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6/18/2019 7:03 AM

As an Alex Martin-sized vet, E-start is a requirement for me if I'm paying $8k for a bike. All that top end power is great, but for a casual rider/racer the KX offers nothing over Honda and Yamaha. I'm guessing since the body work is still the last gen that maybe 2021 will have the new frame? But even that seems silly

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6/18/2019 7:03 AM

ricko wrote:

What other 250f have estart besides ktm/husky?

Honda and yamaha

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6/18/2019 7:04 AM

ricko wrote:

What other 250f have estart besides ktm/husky?

Honda, yamaha

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6/18/2019 7:11 AM

No DLC on the lower fork tube, and I’m assuming non SFF since the switch to KYB?

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Don’t piss off the old people - the older they get the less “life in prison” is a deterrent for them!

2020.5 KTM 450 SXF FE
2006 KX250

6/18/2019 7:12 AM
Edited Date/Time: 6/18/2019 7:15 AM

Ugliest OEM for 2020 goes to...

Seriously, that is an ugly bike. Maybe it's too much green with the green plates.

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6/18/2019 7:17 AM

bvm111 wrote:

No DLC on the lower fork tube, and I’m assuming non SFF since the switch to KYB?

Spring fork

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6/18/2019 7:22 AM

I’m curious on the klx300r. I’m currently racing harescramble on a kx250f with out e start it’s miserable. Everyone I race has it. And our races are dead engine start. I’m last out the gate every time.

Is this thing a strike at competing in off road racing or just another trail bike for a weekend warrior?

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6/18/2019 7:22 AM

bvm111 wrote:

No DLC on the lower fork tube, and I’m assuming non SFF since the switch to KYB?

Markopolo400 wrote:

Spring fork

Yes, the 250 always had a SFF spring. The cutaway in the article only shows one side with the spring however with it being a KYB I am assuming it’s a traditional dual spring set up?

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Don’t piss off the old people - the older they get the less “life in prison” is a deterrent for them!

2020.5 KTM 450 SXF FE
2006 KX250

6/18/2019 7:24 AM

bvm111 wrote:

No DLC on the lower fork tube, and I’m assuming non SFF since the switch to KYB?

Markopolo400 wrote:

Spring fork

bvm111 wrote:

Yes, the 250 always had a SFF spring. The cutaway in the article only shows one side with the spring however with it being a KYB I am assuming it’s a traditional dual spring set up?

Ml512 has a full break down on bikes on his you tube channel.

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6/18/2019 7:27 AM

bvm111 wrote:

Yes, the 250 always had a SFF spring. The cutaway in the article only shows one side with the spring however with it being a KYB I am assuming it’s a traditional dual spring set up?

Yeah that's what I mean lol

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6/18/2019 7:36 AM

I’m sure this year has the all new top end and next will have the bottom with the ever so sought after E start. Kick starting a small bore bike takes about as much effort as it does to push a button but, in today’s world we need it as easy as possible, god forbid any manual labor when we don’t “have” too. This is a huge improvement, the whole top end is redesigned and ditching the SFF design is a huge step in the right direction. There was nothing wrong with the frame as it was as it’s problems the most compliant frame in the bunch so no changes to that, is a good thing. And body styling, that gen styling looks 100 times better than the redesign 450 so IMO that didn’t need a change either and is a good hold over. The self proclaimed need to completely redesign the wheel and ground up rebuild every four years to stay in front, usually hurts these guys cause they end up ditching something that was good, to market the “new” change. When in reality the old was better. Rant over, good job Kawi!

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6/18/2019 7:42 AM

ricko wrote:

Back to KYB on the 250F.

First time on KYB since the Kawazuki collab.

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6/18/2019 7:44 AM

Is electric start really that big of a deal breaker? I've been riding my whole life and kick starting a bike seems like a very, very, very small aspect of it all. I get the pro's wanting it for quick starts after eating shit or tipping over in a corner, but for the average weekend warrior - seems like just another part to break, maintain, or have to replace eventually.

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6/18/2019 7:47 AM

So is the airbox green or black?

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6/18/2019 7:53 AM

I like

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6/18/2019 7:53 AM

Motox627! wrote:

Is electric start really that big of a deal breaker? I've been riding my whole life and kick starting a bike seems like a very, very, very small aspect of it all. I get the pro's wanting it for quick starts after eating shit or tipping over in a corner, but for the average weekend warrior - seems like just another part to break, maintain, or have to replace eventually.

if youre all in on team green, then no e-start is probably not a deal breaker. But does this bike offer more enough to make you choose it over the four that have e-start? 10 years ago some people had a similar opinion on EFI but now we wouldnt touch a new bike without it

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6/18/2019 7:56 AM

colvin227 wrote:

I’m sure this year has the all new top end and next will have the bottom with the ever so sought after E start. Kick starting a small bore bike takes about as much effort as it does to push a button but, in today’s world we need it as easy as possible, god forbid any manual labor when we don’t “have” too. This is a huge improvement, the whole top end is redesigned and ditching the SFF design is a huge step in the right direction. There was nothing wrong with the frame as it was as it’s problems the most compliant frame in the bunch so no changes to that, is a good thing. And body styling, that gen styling looks 100 times better than the redesign 450 so IMO that didn’t need a change either and is a good hold over. The self proclaimed need to completely redesign the wheel and ground up rebuild every four years to stay in front, usually hurts these guys cause they end up ditching something that was good, to market the “new” change. When in reality the old was better. Rant over, good job Kawi!

Pressing a button is a lot easier way to start your bike when your 2 hours into weston beach race and have just gone over the bars.

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6/18/2019 7:58 AM

mx 219 wrote:

Ugliest OEM for 2020 goes to...

Seriously, that is an ugly bike. Maybe it's too much green with the green plates.

i think it looks killer...

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6/18/2019 8:00 AM

Mr. Afterbar wrote:

Bike doesn't need electric start. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not on next years model either.

kb228 wrote:

It needs it because their competitors have it. Keep up with technology or fall behind like Suzuki. Estart is a requirement for most new buyers.

I disagree. Check the up and down votes on posts pertaining to the necessity of e-start. There are plenty of people who couldn't care less and actually don't want to deal with dead batteries.

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6/18/2019 8:00 AM

Barrett57 wrote:

Pressing a button is a lot easier way to start your bike when your 2 hours into weston beach race and have just gone over the bars.

Amen...I was 55 minutes into a mud race Sunday. Put it down killed it and thought I was never going to get it back up let alone have the energy to kick start it. When you’re racing against other bikes with e start it’s a big deal.

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